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Thread: Welsh accent

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    Welsh accent

    I travel around South Wales all week (skip driver) and the difference in accents is huge.
    I work from Brynmawr, and 8 miles north on the A465 is Abergavenny who sound quite posh, and 8 miles south on the A465 is Merthyr who sound as Welshy (not sure that's a word) as you can get. Then there's the difference in Cardiff and Newport accents who border each other.
    Is there a similar accent change in Cardiff? ie can a Splotty tell a Thornhill by their accent?

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    Re: Welsh accent

    Quote Originally Posted by valleys caveman View Post
    I travel around South Wales all week (skip driver) and the difference in accents is huge.
    I work from Brynmawr, and 8 miles north on the A465 is Abergavenny who sound quite posh, and 8 miles south on the A465 is Merthyr who sound as Welshy (not sure that's a word) as you can get. Then there's the difference in Cardiff and Newport accents who border each other.
    Is there a similar accent change in Cardiff? ie can a Splotty tell a Thornhill by their accent?
    I don't know if it's really possible to tell which area in Cardiff someone is from exactly, but it's possible to tell East side of the river to West side, and then between more affluent and less affluent areas, though it is becoming harder to do so nowadays.

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    Re: Welsh accent

    Quote Originally Posted by rs3100 View Post
    I don't know if it's really possible to tell which area in Cardiff someone is from exactly, but it's possible to tell East side of the river to West side, and then between more affluent and less affluent areas, though it is becoming harder to do so nowadays.
    Slightly off topic. Are you a Capri fan?

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    Re: Welsh accent

    I struggle to tell the difference between rct port Talbot and Swansea.
    A kid in work from Llanharan commented on a women in works accent she is from Tonypandy . He said she had a taffy accent I said so do you!
    I m Canton born and lived in Cardiff all my life.

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    Re: Welsh accent

    Quote Originally Posted by valleys caveman View Post
    Slightly off topic. Are you a Capri fan?
    I used to own a MK1, would love to have an RS3100 but couldn't afford 1. Are you an escort fan? Is that your Mk1?

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    Re: Welsh accent

    Quote Originally Posted by rs3100 View Post
    I used to own a MK1, would love to have an RS3100 but couldn't afford 1. Are you an escort fan? Is that your Mk1?
    Yeah big Escort fan. I had a few back in the late 80's when I first did my test, Mexico mk1 avo. Would be worth 30k plus nowadays. Think I sold mine for £900.
    Not my Mk1 or Missus unfortunately

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    Re: Welsh accent

    Quote Originally Posted by valleys caveman View Post
    Yeah big Escort fan. I had a few back in the late 80's when I first did my test, Mexico mk1 avo. Would be worth 30k plus nowadays. Think I sold mine for £900.
    Not my Mk1 or Missus unfortunately
    I liked the Mk1 Escort, a friend of mine had a Twink, sold it about 20 years ago before prices really shot up.

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    Re: Welsh accent

    Quote Originally Posted by insider View Post
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    I m Canton born and lived in Cardiff all my life.
    Same here.

    I cant tell if someone is from the valleys or Swansea either. I think it must be down to not hearing your own accent so you spot the subtle nuances in others more easily.

    I've been on holiday and had people think I'm from Bristol in the past, and I think they sound totally different

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    Re: Welsh accent

    Quote Originally Posted by rs3100 View Post
    I liked the Mk1 Escort, a friend of mine had a Twink, sold it about 20 years ago before prices really shot up.
    I can remember going with my Dad to pick up a brand new Escort mk1 in 1974 from Fords in Abergavenny. I was 7 at the time and felt like a million dollars He changed it 2 years later to the all singing, all dancing mk2 P reg. We were living the dream back then

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    Re: Welsh accent

    Quote Originally Posted by ken smith View Post
    Same here.

    I cant tell if someone is from the valleys or Swansea either. I think it must be down to not hearing your own accent so you spot the subtle nuances in others more easily.

    I've been on holiday and had people think I'm from Bristol in the past, and I think they sound totally different
    On holiday I'm often asked if I'm a Geodie!

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    Re: Welsh accent

    Quote Originally Posted by valleys caveman View Post
    On holiday I'm often asked if I'm a Geodie!
    Scouser I’ve had as well.

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    Re: Welsh accent

    Have often been asked if I'm from north east England.
    Once as a kid while in a chippy in Portsmouth asking if they served curry sauce,
    The guy behind the counter thought I was speeking French!!

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    Re: Welsh accent

    i was over the moon when working in wolverhampton 3 years ago when some woman tapped me on the shoulder in the canteen and said what part of Kairdiff i was from !

    she was originally from tremorfa so she should understood the lingo so refreshing amongst the black country droners !

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    Re: Welsh accent

    Quote Originally Posted by valleys caveman View Post
    I travel around South Wales all week (skip driver) and the difference in accents is huge.
    I work from Brynmawr, and 8 miles north on the A465 is Abergavenny who sound quite posh, and 8 miles south on the A465 is Merthyr who sound as Welshy (not sure that's a word) as you can get. Then there's the difference in Cardiff and Newport accents who border each other.
    Is there a similar accent change in Cardiff? ie can a Splotty tell a Thornhill by their accent?
    I reckon that there's a difference between the east of cardiff and the south. The south is more traditional Cardiff accent, quite gruffy and to the point and more pronounced. The east is a bit lazy, 'arrighh lurve' The south is more 'Orite luv' There's a definite difference in the accent in the more affluent areas.

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    Re: Welsh accent

    I find Bridgend a strange one, being from there, everyone seems to have a very neutral accent, strange considering there are such strong/distinctive accents either side of us

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    Re: Welsh accent

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    I reckon that there's a difference between the east of cardiff and the south. The south is more traditional Cardiff accent, quite gruffy and to the point and more pronounced. The east is a bit lazy, 'arrighh lurve' The south is more 'Orite luv' There's a definite difference in the accent in the more affluent areas.
    I can't say I'd noticed any difference between east and south Cardiff accents, having lived in the former and worked in the latter. There is of course, a noticeable difference between accents in say.. Cyncoed/Lisvane and that of Ely/Llanrumney; however, you'll always have that difference in accents between middle class and working class suburbs, no matter where in the world you go.

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    Re: Welsh accent

    Quote Originally Posted by chris lee View Post
    I find Bridgend a strange one, being from there, everyone seems to have a very neutral accent, strange considering there are such strong/distinctive accents either side of us
    Well, I suppose you would find them neutral if you are from that area. But I would imagine people from outside of Bridgend would detect a very noticeable accent.

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    Re: Welsh accent

    Quote Originally Posted by chris lee View Post
    I find Bridgend a strange one, being from there, everyone seems to have a very neutral accent, strange considering there are such strong/distinctive accents either side of us
    ...a kid called John Drew moved to Cardiff from Bridgend...1972...and we used to call him Taffy

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    Re: Welsh accent

    I left Cardiff when I was twenty and have lived elsewhere for the last four decades, mostly in England. Although I couldn't hear my own accent when living away, I could hear my almost Scouse-like, grating
    Cardiff vowels when pronouncing words such as 'banana', 'curtain,' 'work', 'park', 'Cardiff', 'dark' and 'word' - and modified them accordingly. My brother, who left Cardiff (and Wales) at the age of 17 still has those sounds in his vocabulary.

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    Re: Welsh accent

    Quote Originally Posted by valleys caveman View Post
    I travel around South Wales all week (skip driver) and the difference in accents is huge.
    I work from Brynmawr, and 8 miles north on the A465 is Abergavenny who sound quite posh, and 8 miles south on the A465 is Merthyr who sound as Welshy (not sure that's a word) as you can get. Then there's the difference in Cardiff and Newport accents who border each other.
    Is there a similar accent change in Cardiff? ie can a Splotty tell a Thornhill by their accent?
    There are linguistic experts who probably can. I don't know if you're old enough to remember the "Yorkshire Ripper" tapes? They were tapes sent to George Oldfield, the Senior Investigator of the Yorkshire Ripper enquiry. The tapes were a hoax, but taken seriously by Oldfield. A linguistics expert was able to pin point the accent to a particular housing estate on Wearside.

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    Re: Welsh accent

    Quote Originally Posted by rs3100 View Post
    I don't know if it's really possible to tell which area in Cardiff someone is from exactly, but it's possible to tell East side of the river to West side, and then between more affluent and less affluent areas, though it is becoming harder to do so nowadays.
    I agree, I think you can tell Ely from a Rumney etc, South Cardiff from the posh northern suburbs. I had to call the dvla in jackland the other day, I couldn’t understand a word the woman was saying and asked to be transferred to someone less welshie....some valley and port talbot areas I just nod and agree

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    Re: Welsh accent

    People fro, the docks sound different to the classic cardiff accent ...... or maybe their accent is the "original" classic cardiff accent.

    Going north, where does the accent change to valleys ? I feel like a Caerffili accent is a little cardiffy. Listen to Rambo's acccent.

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    Re: Welsh accent

    Through the gap between the Garth and castle Coch is where it all changes.....some say we should build a wall to keep them out....

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    Re: Welsh accent

    I remember reading that accents in Britain noticeably change every 15 miles. I think Britain is fairly unique in the number of accents it has.

    No doubt they're becoming more watered down as people move more.

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    Re: Welsh accent

    I watch a lot of boxing on Box Nation and Ely boy, Barry Jones is a regular.
    My Missus is from Neath and reckons I sound just like him whereas I notice a lot of differences being from St Mellons/Llanrumney.
    I’d say us in the East are the middle men between the “normal” Kairdiff accent and Newport.

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