Click here for Cardiff City personalised gift shop
Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 31 to 60 of 60

Thread: Notre Dame

  1. #31

    Re: Notre Dame

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    It's a shame to see a fantastic building go up in smoke but it's not a tragedy

    The death of all those people in the Grenfell tower block fire ......that was a tragedy
    Why stop at that incident when you could have compared it to the Holocaust? What's the point of such comparisons?

  2. #32

    Re: Notre Dame

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    It's a shame to see a fantastic building go up in smoke but it's not a tragedy

    The death of all those people in the Grenfell tower block fire ......that was a tragedy
    It's not a competition.

  3. #33

    Re: Notre Dame

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Ken Follett (Cardiff author)'s most famous novel is Pillars Of The Earth, the construction of a cathedral in an English city in the 12th century. It's a good read.
    Fantastic read👍

  4. #34

    Re: Notre Dame

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    Why stop at that incident when you could have compared it to the Holocaust? What's the point of such comparisons?
    It's just a building , that's why

    Nearly 100 people died in the tower block , some jumping to their deaths

    Not going to waste any more time argueing about a bloody church catching fire

    People are more important than buildings

  5. #35

    Re: Notre Dame

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    It's not a competition.
    How many people died in the Notre dame fire last night

    There are thousands of kids dying in conflict and in starvation right now all over the world , I'd rather donate money to help them than fund the building of a bloody church

  6. #36

    Re: Notre Dame

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    How many people died in the Notre dame fire last night

    There are thousands of kids dying in conflict and in starvation right now all over the world , I'd rather donate money to help them than fund the building of a bloody church
    Oh it is a competition. Sorry.

  7. #37

    Re: Notre Dame

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    It's just a building , that's why

    Nearly 100 people died in the tower block , some jumping to their deaths

    Not going to waste any more time argueing about a bloody church catching fire

    People are more important than buildings
    It's not a matter of one thing versus another though, is it?

  8. #38

    Re: Notre Dame

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    It's a shame to see a fantastic building go up in smoke but it's not a tragedy

    The death of all those people in the Grenfell tower block fire ......that was a tragedy
    Why have you even brought that up? Grenfell was a human tragedy, This is a tragedy as in over 800 yrs of history, and a remarkable building has been destroyed. I think most of us on here can distinguish the difference.

  9. #39

    Re: Notre Dame

    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    Why have you even brought that up? Grenfell was a human tragedy, This is a tragedy as in over 800 yrs of history, and a remarkable building has been destroyed. I think most of us on here can distinguish the difference.
    Think of this when communicating with Sludge!!
    https://youtu.be/zP8V0k4wRrk

  10. #40
    International jon1959's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Sheffield - out of Roath
    Posts
    8,518

    Re: Notre Dame

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    It's not a matter of one thing versus another though, is it?
    Maybe not, but it is an interesting comparison nevertheless.

    Even one day on it looks as if the government and donor response to the (state owned) Notre Dame fire has been much greater than to Grenfell Tower where 72 innocent people died in horrific circumstances.

    Heritage valued more than lives?

    It is very sad to see the destruction in Paris, and I hope the building can be restored. But there is always a choice about how resources are used and what is a priority. Grenfell survivors would have had a much easier life in the last 22 months if they had been given 400m euros by billionaire well-wishers, and I bet the French government will be quicker and more effective than Theresa May's useless administration has been.

  11. #41

    Re: Notre Dame

    Knock it down and build a block of flats for the homeless.

  12. #42

    Re: Notre Dame

    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Maybe not, but it is an interesting comparison nevertheless.

    Even one day on it looks as if the government and donor response to the (state owned) Notre Dame fire has been much greater than to Grenfell Tower where 72 innocent people died in horrific circumstances.

    Heritage valued more than lives?

    It is very sad to see the destruction in Paris, and I hope the building can be restored. But there is always a choice about how resources are used and what is a priority. Grenfell survivors would have had a much easier life in the last 22 months if they had been given 400m euros by billionaire well-wishers, and I bet the French government will be quicker and more effective than Theresa May's useless administration has been.
    Spot on Jon. Paris is a city not without it's own social issues, issues that a fraction of this money could go some way to solving.

  13. #43

    Re: Notre Dame

    Funny how they have been donated all this money to rebuild a decking church ......which if god existed he would have saved from the fire ....yet thousands of the city's poor are struggling in run down housing estates on the fringes of the city

    And god fearing right winger Theresa may has decieded all the churches in this country will ring their bells in support of Paris this Thursday , the start of holy week

    What a load of utter cobblers religion and state symbolism is

    Think of what could be done to help those in need with all that money pledged

    What a fecking disgrace

    I am surprised they aren't all wearing black and having a funeral

  14. #44

    Re: Notre Dame

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Funny how they have been donated all this money to rebuild a decking church ......which if god existed he would have saved from the fire ....yet thousands of the city's poor are struggling in run down housing estates on the fringes of the city

    And god fearing right winger Theresa may has decieded all the churches in this country will ring their bells in support of Paris this Thursday , the start of holy week

    What a load of utter cobblers religion and state symbolism is

    Think of what could be done to help those in need with all that money pledged

    What a fecking disgrace

    I am surprised they aren't all wearing black and having a funeral
    Always so blinkered against Christianity and supportive of Islam.

    Why?

    Would you have been so outraged if it had been the Mosque in Mecca that had burned and Muslims (and others) had pledged a lot of money to rebuild it?

  15. #45

    Re: Notre Dame

    Quote Originally Posted by JDerrida View Post
    Always so blinkered against Christianity and supportive of Islam.

    Why?

    Would you have been so outraged if it had been the Mosque in Mecca that had burned and Muslims (and others) had pledged a lot of money to rebuild it?
    Yeah sludge, you are always on here shaking us down for money for your burnt down mosques you bloody hypocrite.

  16. #46

    Re: Notre Dame

    Quote Originally Posted by JDerrida View Post
    Always so blinkered against Christianity and supportive of Islam.

    Why?

    Would you have been so outraged if it had been the Mosque in Mecca that had burned and Muslims (and others) had pledged a lot of money to rebuild it?
    I think all religion is total bollocks including Christianity and Islam

    For the record

  17. #47

    Re: Notre Dame

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    Yeah sludge, you are always on here shaking us down for money for your burnt down mosques you bloody hypocrite.
    Peace be upon him

    More bloody nonsense

  18. #48

    Re: Notre Dame

    Quote Originally Posted by JDerrida View Post
    Always so blinkered against Christianity and supportive of Islam.

    Why?

    Would you have been so outraged if it had been the Mosque in Mecca that had burned and Muslims (and others) had pledged a lot of money to rebuild it?
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-t...-idUSKBN15E2QL

    What a waste of money.

  19. #49
    International
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Baku, Azerbaijan
    Posts
    6,138

    Re: Notre Dame

    The thing is the place is owned by the french state not by the church.
    Let them pay for it themselves, maybe put up taxes to pay for it and see how the "Yellow vests" like them apples.

    This is a country that dislikes us, the British because we beat them so often and saved them from the peril of the hun twice. They have not and never will forgive us.
    They declared war on this country 6 times in less than 100 years, and lost every one. some of those wars were instigated in the name of the church who originally owned the place. The last time they declared war it was with the clearly stated intent of wiping the British nation and it's way of life from the face of the earth and from history. Feck their monument!
    Even in the 2nd WW we weren't 'allowed' to bomb the Germans in Paris in case we damaged their precious buildings. I don't ever recall reading anything about them protesting about the Germans bombing Buckingham Palace or St Pancras, or the poor buggers in the East end, or trying to demolish St Paul's.

    I also don't recall them rushing to offer funds to rebuild Windsor castle when that caught fire!!!!

  20. #50

    Re: Notre Dame

    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    The thing is the place is owned by the french state not by the church.
    Let them pay for it themselves, maybe put up taxes to pay for it and see how the "Yellow vests" like them apples.

    This is a country that dislikes us, the British because we beat them so often and saved them from the peril of the hun twice. They have not and never will forgive us.
    They declared war on this country 6 times in less than 100 years, and lost every one. some of those wars were instigated in the name of the church who originally owned the place. The last time they declared war it was with the clearly stated intent of wiping the British nation and it's way of life from the face of the earth and from history. Feck their monument!
    Even in the 2nd WW we weren't 'allowed' to bomb the Germans in Paris in case we damaged their precious buildings. I don't ever recall reading anything about them protesting about the Germans bombing Buckingham Palace or St Pancras, or the poor buggers in the East end, or trying to demolish St Paul's.

    I also don't recall them rushing to offer funds to rebuild Windsor castle when that caught fire!!!!
    You're Nigel Farage and I claim my 5 Euros.

  21. #51

    Re: Notre Dame

    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    The thing is the place is owned by the french state not by the church.
    Let them pay for it themselves, maybe put up taxes to pay for it and see how the "Yellow vests" like them apples.

    This is a country that dislikes us, the British because we beat them so often and saved them from the peril of the hun twice. They have not and never will forgive us.
    They declared war on this country 6 times in less than 100 years, and lost every one. some of those wars were instigated in the name of the church who originally owned the place. The last time they declared war it was with the clearly stated intent of wiping the British nation and it's way of life from the face of the earth and from history. Feck their monument!
    Even in the 2nd WW we weren't 'allowed' to bomb the Germans in Paris in case we damaged their precious buildings. I don't ever recall reading anything about them protesting about the Germans bombing Buckingham Palace or St Pancras, or the poor buggers in the East end, or trying to demolish St Paul's.

    I also don't recall them rushing to offer funds to rebuild Windsor castle when that caught fire!!!!
    Wow, that's quite a rant. I've never heard anyone complain that we didn't bomb Paris during the war.

  22. #52
    International
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Baku, Azerbaijan
    Posts
    6,138

    Re: Notre Dame

    Euros mate? Couple of Sovs. Sod your euros. 😆

  23. #53
    International
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Baku, Azerbaijan
    Posts
    6,138

    Re: Notre Dame

    It wasn't a bad rant off the cuff was It? 😁

  24. #54

    Re: Notre Dame

    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    The thing is the place is owned by the french state not by the church.
    Let them pay for it themselves, maybe put up taxes to pay for it and see how the "Yellow vests" like them apples.

    This is a country that dislikes us, the British because we beat them so often and saved them from the peril of the hun twice. They have not and never will forgive us.
    They declared war on this country 6 times in less than 100 years, and lost every one. some of those wars were instigated in the name of the church who originally owned the place. The last time they declared war it was with the clearly stated intent of wiping the British nation and it's way of life from the face of the earth and from history. Feck their monument!
    Even in the 2nd WW we weren't 'allowed' to bomb the Germans in Paris in case we damaged their precious buildings. I don't ever recall reading anything about them protesting about the Germans bombing Buckingham Palace or St Pancras, or the poor buggers in the East end, or trying to demolish St Paul's.

    I also don't recall them rushing to offer funds to rebuild Windsor castle when that caught fire!!!!
    Dislikes us???? Iíll take issue with you on that one. Didnít you go to Euro16? The ceremonies displaying thanks to British forces were humbling. The huge ĎMercií & ĎThank Youí murals near Amiens station looked superb. The immaculate way the graves of the fallen of all nations, but particularly ours, are tended. Donít know if youíre on a piss take but a few days in Northern France visiting museums, cemeteries etc would change your mind on the French nationís attitude towards us.

  25. #55

    Re: Notre Dame

    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    Dislikes us???? Iíll take issue with you on that one. Didnít you go to Euro16? The ceremonies displaying thanks to British forces were humbling. The huge ĎMercií & ĎThank Youí murals near Amiens station looked superb. The immaculate way the graves of the fallen of all nations, but particularly ours, are tended. Donít know if youíre on a piss take but a few days in Northern France visiting museums, cemeteries etc would change your mind on the French nationís attitude towards us.
    Touchť

  26. #56

    Re: Notre Dame

    Quote Originally Posted by Des Parrot View Post
    Touchť
    Merci Des🇫🇷

  27. #57
    International
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Baku, Azerbaijan
    Posts
    6,138

    Re: Notre Dame

    I agree with you thwre. It's the french political aristo cracy that dislike us. The average french guy is a sound as you or I

  28. #58

    Re: Notre Dame

    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    I agree with you thwre. It's the french political aristo cracy that dislike us. The average french guy is a sound as you or I
    Perhaps their aristocracy arenít keen on ours, our highest aristocrats are German after all. The Germans did a bit of Notre Dame like damage to France in the two conflicts, honestly they did😂😂

  29. #59

    Re: Notre Dame

    Quasimodo and son have already got their bids in
    They said theyíd fix the bells, the bells first

  30. #60
    International
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Baku, Azerbaijan
    Posts
    6,138

    Re: Notre Dame

    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    Perhaps their aristocracy arenít keen on ours, our highest aristocrats are German after all. The Germans did a bit of Notre Dame like damage to France in the two conflicts, honestly they did����
    It's not their aristocracy, it's their political 'aristocracy' or political elite if you will. They cut off the heads of all their aristocrats and a few thousand others people just didn't like and accused of being anti-republic in the great Terror. Nice peeps the french.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •