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  1. #61

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    Very serious subject, but a bit of humour is ok sometimes too. Quote from a mate's mum: "those climate change protesters have been very lucky with the weather".

  2. #62

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Monk View Post
    Poorly thought out demo if you ask me. What's the point of demonstrating outside and around Parliament when the MP's are all busy using the extra time agreed to plan for brexit so effectively?






    Oh no, wait a minute, I meant while all the MP's are on their easter holidays.
    they ain't got the bollocks to protest in the real villains back-gardens, like China ,Russia .

    Lets hop there is no public service employees there ,and were not paying their wages to block road , airports, and disrupt those who do have to work,hopefully not one of them drove or took transport to get there ,adding the London's already burdened pollution.

    If they got so much time on their hands ,why dont they decamp to one of the desperate poverty stricken places on earth who want there help now .

  3. #63

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    We might be better than China but all countries can do better, a lot more in fact. In that respect, he's not "totally wrong".

    I think I can detect a real generational difference of opinion, between those worried about the future and those who couldn't care less and just think they're being hassled.
    I'm sure it seems like that but I think it's more a question of not like being told by everyone and his dog how to live their lives, what to eat, etc, etc. Personally I do what I can to look after the environment around me...

  4. #64

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    Buffoons led by hypocrites

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-47987891

    Dame Emma, who joined the protests after flying from Los Angeles on Thursday

  5. #65

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    Quote Originally Posted by severncity View Post
    Incredible yes she may have played many a tree ,how many will have been affected by her career road and air use.
    Joke .

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  7. #67

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    We might be better than China but all countries can do better, a lot more in fact. In that respect, he's not "totally wrong".

    I think I can detect a real generational difference of opinion, between those worried about the future and those who couldn't care less and just think they're being hassled.
    Blame the older generation again, when it's today's throwaway society, must have with immediacy, must have anything from anywhere in the world, on their plate now.

    We used to repair virtually all electrical goods. Now if it's more than 3 years old. Throw it away and get a new one.

    The proliferation of plastic bags is as a direct result of growth in supermarkets. The same supermarkets that feed the gullible that they are doing their bit for the planet. The same supermarkets that will get cheaper and cheaper produce from aroubd the world, often creating the deforestation and replacement with palm trees for all of the crap that we eat in the West. The same supermarkets that have helped increase a lot of our societal problems by selling cheap booze. All of the packaging for multi packs or anything, when they dupe people into buying so much food that we throw a large percentage of it away.
    Disposable nappies because mum's are far too busy now. Yet somehow mum's managed with towelling nappies in the past when having a washing machine was a luxury.
    A generation or two ago, people would buy from their local grocers who would get most of their produce locally, same with butchers.
    People would buy the quantity they needed, not what some faceless Tesco computer generated knowledge of every purchase you ever bought, tells you to buy.

    There are so many more cars on the roads than ever before, there are more flights anywhere in the world than ever before.

    There are so many great things with what is happening today, but sometimes more than a little introspection will go a long way.

  8. #68

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDerrida View Post
    Blame the older generation again, when it's today's throwaway society, must have with immediacy, must have anything from anywhere in the world, on their plate now.

    We used to repair virtually all electrical goods. Now if it's more than 3 years old. Throw it away and get a new one.

    The proliferation of plastic bags is as a direct result of growth in supermarkets. The same supermarkets that feed the gullible that they are doing their bit for the planet. The same supermarkets that will get cheaper and cheaper produce from aroubd the world, often creating the deforestation and replacement with palm trees for all of the crap that we eat in the West. The same supermarkets that have helped increase a lot of our societal problems by selling cheap booze. All of the packaging for multi packs or anything, when they dupe people into buying so much food that we throw a large percentage of it away.
    Disposable nappies because mum's are far too busy now. Yet somehow mum's managed with towelling nappies in the past when having a washing machine was a luxury.
    A generation or two ago, people would buy from their local grocers who would get most of their produce locally, same with butchers.
    People would buy the quantity they needed, not what some faceless Tesco computer generated knowledge of every purchase you ever bought, tells you to buy.

    There are so many more cars on the roads than ever before, there are more flights anywhere in the world than ever before.

    There are so many great things with what is happening today, but sometimes more than a little introspection will go a long way.
    Haven't you just proved his original point for him?

  9. #69

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    they ain't got the bollocks to protest in the real villains back-gardens, like China ,Russia .

    Lets hop there is no public service employees there ,and were not paying their wages to block road , airports, and disrupt those who do have to work,hopefully not one of them drove or took transport to get there ,adding the London's already burdened pollution.

    If they got so much time on their hands ,why dont they decamp to one of the desperate poverty stricken places on earth who want there help now .
    You realise these are British people, why would they go and protest in China?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    You realise these are British people, why would they go and protest in China?
    you think that these people protesting here will change the opinion of the chinese government????

  11. #71

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    you think that these people protesting here will change the opinion of the chinese government????
    Eh? No.

  12. #72

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDerrida View Post
    Blame the older generation again, when it's today's throwaway society, must have with immediacy, must have anything from anywhere in the world, on their plate now.

    We used to repair virtually all electrical goods. Now if it's more than 3 years old. Throw it away and get a new one.

    The proliferation of plastic bags is as a direct result of growth in supermarkets. The same supermarkets that feed the gullible that they are doing their bit for the planet. The same supermarkets that will get cheaper and cheaper produce from aroubd the world, often creating the deforestation and replacement with palm trees for all of the crap that we eat in the West. The same supermarkets that have helped increase a lot of our societal problems by selling cheap booze. All of the packaging for multi packs or anything, when they dupe people into buying so much food that we throw a large percentage of it away.
    Disposable nappies because mum's are far too busy now. Yet somehow mum's managed with towelling nappies in the past when having a washing machine was a luxury.
    A generation or two ago, people would buy from their local grocers who would get most of their produce locally, same with butchers.
    People would buy the quantity they needed, not what some faceless Tesco computer generated knowledge of every purchase you ever bought, tells you to buy.

    There are so many more cars on the roads than ever before, there are more flights anywhere in the world than ever before.

    There are so many great things with what is happening today, but sometimes more than a little introspection will go a long way.
    You're quite correct with your list - but the people who actually did all those things are not the ones in their 20s now.

  13. #73

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    You realise these are British people, why would they go and protest in China?
    Because they're the real polluters.



    My point is, if they want to make a noise, take on the real polluting countries not ours , fly into China, Russia or India ,they won't though as they know what they will get (and it won't be softly, softly policing )

  14. #74

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Because they're the real polluters.



    My point is, if they want to make a noise, take on the real polluting countries not ours , fly into China, Russia or India ,they won't though as they know what they will get (and it won't be softly, softly policing )
    How many public protests in China by foreign nationals have changed their government policies, mate?

  15. #75

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDerrida View Post
    Blame the older generation again, when it's today's throwaway society, must have with immediacy, must have anything from anywhere in the world, on their plate now.

    We used to repair virtually all electrical goods. Now if it's more than 3 years old. Throw it away and get a new one.

    The proliferation of plastic bags is as a direct result of growth in supermarkets. The same supermarkets that feed the gullible that they are doing their bit for the planet. The same supermarkets that will get cheaper and cheaper produce from aroubd the world, often creating the deforestation and replacement with palm trees for all of the crap that we eat in the West. The same supermarkets that have helped increase a lot of our societal problems by selling cheap booze. All of the packaging for multi packs or anything, when they dupe people into buying so much food that we throw a large percentage of it away.
    Disposable nappies because mum's are far too busy now. Yet somehow mum's managed with towelling nappies in the past when having a washing machine was a luxury.
    A generation or two ago, people would buy from their local grocers who would get most of their produce locally, same with butchers.
    People would buy the quantity they needed, not what some faceless Tesco computer generated knowledge of every purchase you ever bought, tells you to buy.

    There are so many more cars on the roads than ever before, there are more flights anywhere in the world than ever before.

    There are so many great things with what is happening today, but sometimes more than a little introspection will go a long way.
    You start with the words "Blame the older generation again" and then set out a very convincing argument as to why you should do precisely that - the words "There are none so blind as those who will not see" spring to mind for some reason.

  16. #76

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    How many public protests in China by foreign nationals have changed their government policies, mate?
    How many public protests anywhere in the world have changed government policies?

  17. #77

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    How many public protests anywhere in the world have changed government policies?
    Poll tax protests?

  18. #78

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Poll tax protests?
    I’d say the main reason the poll tax was scrapped, was the sheer volume of numbers who refused to pay it.

  19. #79

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    You're totally wrong. The UK's record on the environment is as good as any Western economy. Go to China [not by plane though], where the are building a coal-fired power station every month. India, Pakistan, etc.

    These people do f*ck all, just tell others how to live - dont' fly, don't eat meat, don't drive. Yet they're nearly all privileged, with the time and money to go round screwing everybody else before they go back to Mummy and Daddy and their ponies..
    Isn't that sort of their point though? Saying our record is as good as any other Western nation and far better than worst performing isn't good enough, we're in a position where doing what is comfortable isn't good enough, and while we can't control what China is doing we can control what the UK is doing. There are protestors in other nations, perhaps not China, who are saying exactly the same thing with their countries respectively.

    Privileged voice giving that message or not, it seems to be a clear statement about how close we are as a planet to things getting very messy.

  20. #80

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremy corbyn View Post
    Climate change is the biggest threat to the world, brexit is feck all, yet countries are playing lip service, including ours.
    Good luck to the protesters.
    💪
    You ahve a point. We are due an ice age, so keep those greenhouse gasses going.

  21. #81

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Because they're the real polluters.



    My point is, if they want to make a noise, take on the real polluting countries not ours , fly into China, Russia or India ,they won't though as they know what they will get (and it won't be softly, softly policing )
    They pay the wages of the people who make policy here in this country. What business do they have protesting in China or Russia?

  22. #82

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    I’d say the main reason the poll tax was scrapped, was the sheer volume of numbers who refused to pay it.
    well observed and a fact

  23. #83

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    They pay the wages of the people who make policy here in this country. What business do they have protesting in China or Russia?
    We've had a 16 year old Swedish woman who has been speaking out in London, Rome and I believe a number of other cities. We've heard of a woman from L.A. travelling over.

    If people believe in Globalisation, which personally I don't believe is ultimately a good thing, then ultimately they 'should' by right be able to protest where the worst protagonists are.

    It's not as though the pollution from China or Russia or USA or any country doesn't affect the rest of the world.

    We all have a duty to try enforce change, but for change to happen, we the consumers have to make compromises in the way we buy, spend, and dispose. We need to change our shopping habits.

    Brazil's new president is actively encouraging Amazonian deforestation in the name of economic growth. Why, because of Western gluttony.

    Just step back in time and look at how things were 40 to 50 years ago.

    There were different forms of pollution from coal, etc...

    The number of cars have dramatically increased, the number of trips abroad, the number of flights all around the world massively increased. The use of plastics and polystyrene in all sorts of packaging from multi pack foods that most families throw away to the insatiable consumption of electrical goods, along with the throwaway society that we have become.

    We have to play our part and demand the supermarkets reduce ALL packaging to its absolute minimum, food and electrical manufacturers to reduce their packaging, to buy what we need rather than what we see as 'keeping up with the Joneses'.

    The mugs who are the paying public, pay their 5 or 10p for carrier bags that advertise the supermarkets, yet with their billion £ profits, they could invest in the technology that would create biodegradable single use bags that they should give for free.

    In California, a number of the large stores use recycled strong paper bags, that are then able to be recycled again.

    A lot of the rubbish from the utter crap food outlets such as McDonald's is just thrown on the floor or out of consumer's cars, because they're too lazy to walk a few yards to throw in a bin. Their bins could be improved with what they claim to be food waste, plastic and paper/cardboard waste in seperate bins.

    The corporates get away with so much and we keep feeding their profits without thought or conscience.

    The throwaway of sweatshop bought clothing, because 'we can' afford to do so, yet many who do throw away so much, don't spare a thought for the good causes where that money could be better spent.

    We need to empower our Government's to act against these and to enact many other changes for the better of our country and our world.

  24. #84

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Because they're the real polluters.



    My point is, if they want to make a noise, take on the real polluting countries not ours , fly into China, Russia or India ,they won't though as they know what they will get (and it won't be softly, softly policing )
    It may seem unfair to some developing countries that pollution is being clamped down on when other countries already have the advantage of their industrial revolutions and reaped the benefits accordingly - although we know that something has to be done, of course.

  25. #85

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    It may seem unfair to some developing countries that pollution is being clamped down on when other countries already have the advantage of their industrial revolutions and reaped the benefits accordingly - although we know that something has to be done, of course.
    Developing countries?, China, Russia, India are nuclear powers and are key space race powers, I do get what you are saying but these countries have enough wealth to be putting their wealth to making this earth a better place. I don't think its unfair at all to clamp down on China India and Russia.

  26. #86

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    Everyone knows China et al need to do more for climate change. I don’t know why this is seen as a legitimate argument against those thinking the also U.K. needs to do something.

  27. #87

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    Everyone knows China et al need to do more for climate change. I don’t know why this is seen as a legitimate argument against those thinking the also U.K. needs to do something.
    The UK produces about 1% of global CO2 and that amount is falling quite quickly, year on year

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-47121399

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    Even if we in the UK reduce our CO2 emissions to zero it would have a vanishingly minuscule effect on “climate change”.

    Therefore these protests are a mix of virtue signalling and pissing in the wind.

  28. #88

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    The UK’s population is 4% of China’s though. So again I don’t see why getting the U.K. to improve its carbon emissions is a bad thing.

    Everyone knows China needs to improve but so does every country.

  29. #89

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    The UK’s population is 4% of China’s though. So again I don’t see why getting the U.K. to improve its carbon emissions is a bad thing.

    Everyone knows China needs to improve but so does every country.
    Why would China bow to anyone elses pressure if those countries aren't making big changes and improvements themselves?

    We can't all pass the buck. Climate change, or "climate change", needs everyone mucking in.

  30. #90

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Why would China bow to anyone elses pressure if those countries aren't making big changes and improvements themselves?

    We can't all pass the buck. Climate change, or "climate change", needs everyone mucking in.
    The UK has made big changes. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-47121399

    Do you agree with all three demands of the Extinction Rebellion group?

    https://rebellion.earth/the-truth/demands/

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