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    Re: Thread Re. Dalman’s pre-match comments

    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    Nothing like a deliberately sensationalised thread full of supposition, innuendo and criticism at the end of a long hard season to get the juices flowing is there. Presumably makes the poster and other like contributors feel all important and knowledgeable, with their fingers on the pulse of current events at the club. Sets them up nicely for the long summer break when things might be a bit quiet. Otherwise known as a pile of old drivel submitted by people who have nothing better to do.
    Tell me then. Why exactly is Dalman at the club. What is his role? What is his job, and if he has one. Did he do it well? Is he qualified in any way? Genuine question. Not to put you on the spot. Well, a little bit maybe, but..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfmother View Post
    Tell me then. Why exactly is Dalman at the club. What is his role? What is his job, and if he has one. Did he do it well? Is he qualified in any way? Genuine question. Not to put you on the spot. Well, a little bit maybe, but..
    I think they are very valid points. Between Tan and Choo we have plenty of financial and balance sheet experience. I think the club could replace that position with a Director of Football who could review transfers, negotiate contracts and have regular meetings with the manager to address football issues.
    Unfortunately, due to his headstrong demeanour it cannot be Warnock. Maybe someone like Alan Curbishley ?

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    Mehmet Dalman is an investment banker. Even though he's listed as chairman, I'm assuming he oversees the day-to-day running of the club in a CFO capacity. And as such, is part of the Transfer Committee. He has no football experience as far as I am aware.

    Maybe we're just supposed to "get behind him"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    Mehmet Dalman is an investment banker. Even though he's listed as chairman, I'm assuming he oversees the day-to-day running of the club in a CFO capacity. And as such, is part of the Transfer Committee. He has no football experience as far as I am aware.

    Maybe we're just supposed to "get behind him"?
    Maybe he is there because of his contacts within the banking industry ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    Mehmet Dalman is an investment banker. Even though he's listed as chairman, I'm assuming he oversees the day-to-day running of the club in a CFO capacity. And as such, is part of the Transfer Committee. He has no football experience as far as I am aware.

    Maybe we're just supposed to "get behind him"?
    Then we could ask why Ken Choo is there.. Any more number crunchers at the club? But Dalman also has a part ownership, dosent he. So he quit his banking job to overse day to day running at a football club? Is that his job now? Or is he still a banker, and Cardiff City is more of a hobby? Oversee what exactly? If the shirts are clean and checking if everyone turned up for their job? No wait, that is Ken Choo again.. Im still confused. And i Dalman didn't know to plan two separate outcomes from the season. You would think almighty Warwick did? After all, he is the promotion master?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfmother View Post
    Tell me then. Why exactly is Dalman at the club. What is his role? What is his job, and if he has one. Did he do it well? Is he qualified in any way? Genuine question. Not to put you on the spot. Well, a little bit maybe, but..
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehmet_Dalman

    From 1990 to 1995, Dalman served as the Head of European and Japanese Equities at Credit Lyonnais Securities and Head of Quantitative Marketing at The Nikko Securities Europe. He served as a Managing Director at Deutsche Morgan Grenfell Capital Markets Limited, and Head of Japanese Equities and Equity Derivatives for Asia Pacific. Between 1997 and 2004, Dalman was the first non-German to sit on the board of the German bank Commerzbank. He founded the WMG Group / WMG Advisors LLP in 2004. In January 2012, Dalman joined the Cardiff City F.C. board as the Bluebirds looked to return to the top flight and was subsequently made chairman in July 2013.[

    http://wmgfunds.com/about-us/

    I think he was the main person behind the scenes who arranged the Manchester United sale to the Glazers from Magnier and McM**** about 15 years ago. He almost sold the club to Colonel Gadaffi - but that fell through.

    He's a financier, businessman, deal-maker, experienced chairman and figure of calm and authority. Useful to have in his role with the club. He wouldn't know a 15 goal a season striker though if he fell over one!

    (The '****' above should read 'a nus' with no gaps!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehmet_Dalman

    From 1990 to 1995, Dalman served as the Head of European and Japanese Equities at Credit Lyonnais Securities and Head of Quantitative Marketing at The Nikko Securities Europe. He served as a Managing Director at Deutsche Morgan Grenfell Capital Markets Limited, and Head of Japanese Equities and Equity Derivatives for Asia Pacific. Between 1997 and 2004, Dalman was the first non-German to sit on the board of the German bank Commerzbank. He founded the WMG Group / WMG Advisors LLP in 2004. In January 2012, Dalman joined the Cardiff City F.C. board as the Bluebirds looked to return to the top flight and was subsequently made chairman in July 2013.[

    http://wmgfunds.com/about-us/

    I think he was the main person behind the scenes who arranged the Manchester United sale to the Glazers from Magnier and McM**** about 15 years ago. He almost sold the club to Colonel Gadaffi - but that fell through.

    He's a financier, businessman, deal-maker, experienced chairman and figure of calm and authority. Useful to have in his role with the club. He wouldn't know a 15 goal a season striker though if he fell over one!

    (The '****' above should read 'a nus' with no gaps!)
    And still we managed to almost go bust. Twice? Wow. Still not sure what his job is..

    And regarding A Nus. Ill put one in yours any time JonJon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfmother View Post
    Tell me then. Why exactly is Dalman at the club. What is his role? What is his job, and if he has one. Did he do it well? Is he qualified in any way? Genuine question. Not to put you on the spot. Well, a little bit maybe, but..
    Oh I know,lets get some real football men in and see how that goes.Sam Hamman,Peter Ridsdale?The game is littered with club clubs that have suffered under real football types.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sneggyblubird View Post
    Oh I know,lets get some real football men in and see how that goes.Sam Hamman,Peter Ridsdale?The game is littered with club clubs that have suffered under real football types.
    So you’re saying we shouldn’t have people in control of the club than have an idea about the game ? Or that you’d prefer to have someone who specialises in finance despite the fact they will make mistakes in the running of the football team ?

    The questions posed are valid. Why is this fella running the day to day decisions affecting on-the-pitch issues when he/they are clearly novices. I have no fecking idea how to run a club but even I think I’d have the presence of mind to think in January 2018 when we were towards the top of the championship that we should start putting in provisional approaches to the types of players we’d be interested in signing were we to go up. I find incredible that none of Choo, Dalman or Warnock felt it relevant to entertain the idea of a promotion plan.

    It bugs me because had we done the basics we would have started the season with a stronger squad (a striker and right back at least) and there’s every chance it would have made the difference between going down and staying up. It’s regrettable and disappointing , that’s all.

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    Re: Thread Re. Dalman’s pre-match comments

    Quote Originally Posted by Divine Wright View Post
    So you’re saying we shouldn’t have people in control of the club than have an idea about the game ? Or that you’d prefer to have someone who specialises in finance despite the fact they will make mistakes in the running of the football team ?

    The questions posed are valid. Why is this fella running the day to day decisions affecting on-the-pitch issues when he/they are clearly novices. I have no fecking idea how to run a club but even I think I’d have the presence of mind to think in January 2018 when we were towards the top of the championship that we should start putting in provisional approaches to the types of players we’d be interested in signing were we to go up. I find incredible that none of Choo, Dalman or Warnock felt it relevant to entertain the idea of a promotion plan.

    It bugs me because had we done the basics we would have started the season with a stronger squad (a striker and right back at least) and there’s every chance it would have made the difference between going down and staying up. It’s regrettable and disappointing , that’s all.
    While they may relatively still be novices they have been here 5+ years now and things are running now more smoothly than, well name any date really. I think we have to recognise that in December we had lost 4 games on the trot and were perhaps looking to manage resources best we could between chances of dropping into play-offs and staying ahead of the pack. Things are not perfect and Dalman may or may not be a conman but we are stronger off-off-the-field than we have been since perhaps Malky's first season, although recognising that there is much work to be done.

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