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    Has football ever been better?

    I see posts regularly about how this and that is broken and how to save the game. But imo the sport is the greatest in the world and at its pinnacle.

    Sure we will always have gripes, especially about refs! but I like the the fact that we leave some stuff open to interpretation more than any other sport, it provides great talking points and debates.

    We have Messi and Ronaldo fighting for the GOAT.
    Premier League cementing itself as the greatest league in the world ( 4 clubs in both euro finals)
    Following Cardiff in the last decade has been better than probably any other, multiple promotions and cup finals. I especially enjoyed the DJ years due to the pure lunacy of it all.
    Welsh National team reaching semi- finals and so much talented youth coming through atm.

    I am as addicted and excited by football right now than I ever have been, I am currently subscribed to about 4 different footy podcasts I listen to regular,and just loving all of it!

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    What I will say about refs is watching the champions league and premier league the difference in class is ridiculous the European refs are far better they really need to look at the system here

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    Credit where itís due. English teams are bossing it at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    Credit where it’s due. English teams are bossing it at the moment.
    Pity about English refs.

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    I agree they do seem a lot better, have a reputation for being a bit softer, but do get most of the big decisions correct. Although the spurs ref tonight played on through some big challenges which I appreciated.

    Is there a reason why we can not poach refs from abroad? I know the EFL recently took a very well respected ref from the Aussie Leagues, but why is it not done more.

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    Re: Has football ever been better?

    Yes, 2008-2011

    Otherwise known as the Enckelman-Johnson-Quincy-Taiwo glory years

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    Re: Has football ever been better?

    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    Yes, 2008-2011

    Otherwise known as the Enckelman-Johnson-Quincy-Taiwo glory years
    I agree, that Taiwo performance against BrIsTOl in the snow is single handedly the most beautiful thing I've witnessed on a football pitch.

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    Re: Has football ever been better?

    Imo Football is at it's shittest pinnacle ever.
    Diving cheating and bent to fack by the billion pound industry it has become.
    It's just become like motor racing whoever's got the best car/most money wins.

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    Re: Has football ever been better?

    Quote Originally Posted by chris lee View Post
    I see posts regularly about how this and that is broken and how to save the game. But imo the sport is the greatest in the world and at its pinnacle.

    Sure we will always have gripes, especially about refs! but I like the the fact that we leave some stuff open to interpretation more than any other sport, it provides great talking points and debates.

    We have Messi and Ronaldo fighting for the GOAT.
    Premier League cementing itself as the greatest league in the world ( 4 clubs in both euro finals)
    Following Cardiff in the last decade has been better than probably any other, multiple promotions and cup finals. I especially enjoyed the DJ years due to the pure lunacy of it all.
    Welsh National team reaching semi- finals and so much talented youth coming through atm.

    I am as addicted and excited by football right now than I ever have been, I am currently subscribed to about 4 different footy podcasts I listen to regular,and just loving all of it!
    I canít disagree with you, it just keeps delivering.

    Worth noting that only 2 English teams are currently in euro finals. After the last two nights you canít guarantee nothing for tomorrow night.

    Agree about Cardiff as well. I tell a lot of my plastic fan mates..itís been much more exciting following us than them the past 10 years.

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    Re: Has football ever been better?

    It may be two "English" teams in the final, but in reality its two teams from the richest league in the final. They are hardly littered with English players

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    Credit where itís due. English teams are bossing it at the moment.
    With foreign players and managers and coaches, you could say occupied clubs , are bossing it .

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    Re: Has football ever been better?

    No. Players are now true athletes. 30 years ago they were smoking and drinking. Now they run for miles and don't stop. Also the technical abilty they have is outrageous. Every single player is so confident on the ball. The game has always had drama. But the football we have witnessed in the last 48 hours has been breathtaking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    With foreign players and managers and coaches, you could say occupied clubs , are bossing it .
    Our club must be one the biggest ďoccupiedĒ clubs then. Malaysian owner, English manager. How many Welsh players were in our starting line up against Crystal Palace?

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    I don't like some of the money and commercial aspects but the game itself is brilliant

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    Credit where it’s due. English teams are bossing it at the moment.
    Yes with a Spanish, German and Argentinian Manager.............

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    Re: Has football ever been better?

    Quote Originally Posted by insider View Post
    Imo Football is at it's shittest pinnacle ever.
    Diving cheating and bent to fack by the billion pound industry it has become.
    It's just become like motor racing whoever's got the best car/most money wins.
    Just about sums it up I think. The media hype is duping people into thinking its at its best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Monk View Post
    Just about sums it up I think. The media hype is duping people into thinking its at its best.
    This is my view generally, but those two games have caused me a bit of an issue, they were fantastic games !!!

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    Football's just one of many circuses that's overhyped by corporate media to dumb us down further and distract us as we become ever poorer while the surveillance matrix grows more invasive and former freedoms and liberties disappear. The lead story on Good Morning Britain - ITV's shite breakfast show - on every news bulletin today and yesterday involved Liverpool and Tottenham's victories to imply they were the most important happenings worldwide, when in reality one group of millionaire bag o' wind hoofers overcame a similar group of entertainers.

    Returning to the Scouse b'stards win, I don't recall Sludge being as animated as he was yesterday when I visited his Cowbridge hovel. As I approached the property he was almost hanging out of an upstairs window with a red and white scarf tied 1970s style around one wrist as he screamed banshee-like indecipherable but clearly joyous slogans. I had to endure his celebrations, which involved him trying to tap dance later on, without complaint as I had previously insisted they had no chance of progressing after their 3-0 first leg thumping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    Football's just one of many circuses that's overhyped by corporate media to dumb us down further and distract us as we become ever poorer while the surveillance matrix grows more invasive and former freedoms and liberties disappear. The lead story on Good Morning Britain - ITV's shite breakfast show - on every news bulletin today and yesterday involved Liverpool and Tottenham's victories to imply they were the most important happenings worldwide, when in reality one group of millionaire bag o' wind hoofers overcame a similar group of entertainers.

    Returning to the Scouse b'stards win, I don't recall Sludge being as animated as he was yesterday when I visited his Cowbridge hovel. As I approached the property he was almost hanging out of an upstairs window with a red and white scarf tied 1970s style around one wrist as he screamed banshee-like indecipherable but clearly joyous slogans. I had to endure his celebrations, which involved him trying to tap dance later on, without complaint as I had previously insisted they had no chance of progressing after their 3-0 first leg thumping.
    Genuine question re your first paragraph, do you take pleasure in anything if indeed you hold football in such contempt?

    Second paragraph very funny mind 😂

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    A change in attitude that has seen attacking play favoured a bit more by officials has played a part in turning good defensive play into something of a lost art. Is Virgil Van Dijk really as good as everyone says he is or is he benefitting from being an excellent defender at a time when there are so few of them about?

    The upshot of this is that the game has improved as a spectacle, but, as someone who grew up in the 60s and 70s, I liked it when the old style First Division was almost as hard to predict as the modern day Championship.

    The top sides in the Premier League have improved this season and whoever finishes second can take some very small consolation in the knowledge that they are a far better team than many who have won it in previous years, but Leicester's fantastic triumph apart, the domestic game is much too predictable and there are far too many mismatches for this to be seen as some sort of football golden age.

    As for the "Champions League" - I make it that the sides contesting the Final this year haven't been Champions for a combined total of eighty seven years!

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    Re: Has football ever been better?

    Quote Originally Posted by insider View Post
    Imo Football is at it's shittest pinnacle ever.
    Diving cheating and bent to fack by the billion pound industry it has become.
    It's just become like motor racing whoever's got the best car/most money wins.
    That's not quite right. Alonso, who is no friend of Hamilton, said Hamilton is the best driver "because he can win in a bad car". And he has proved it.

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    I mean, shit defending won both semi finals. How is that, that good?

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    I give up, I watched 2 of the most incredible games this week but some residents off comb still think 80s football was much better ffs

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    depends in which context we are talking . globalisation of football at the top level has come at a cost where the elite are grabbing all the money with tv companies prepared to spend millions to satisfy the sporting public masses in china , Malaysia etc

    the standard of football in the elite circles of the game is breath taking .god knows how the game will pan out in say 10 years time . the players are almost robotic now as it is . as for globalisation of the game particularly the prem league it must be pointed out , out of the 18 man spurs squad yesterday featured only 3 british players and Liverpool 5 players the night before . is that progress for the home nation teams ?

    the number of children playing are now at record levels in the UK so yes the game has never been more powerful which is great .

    as mentioned a million times on here the sooner a breakaway European league takes off the better

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamieccfc View Post
    I give up, I watched 2 of the most incredible games this week but some residents off comb still think 80s football was much better ffs
    Its an old person thing, everyone puts their own generation on a pedestal .
    its like when people say this generation of kids have it the worse, and we had the best childhoods, but then their parents also said that about them, and theirs about them again, and kids today will be saying the same to their kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    depends in which context we are talking . globalisation of football at the top level has come at a cost where the elite are grabbing all the money with tv companies prepared to spend millions to satisfy the sporting public masses in china , Malaysia etc

    the standard of football in the elite circles of the game is breath taking .god knows how the game will pan out in say 10 years time . the players are almost robotic now as it is . as for globalisation of the game particularly the prem league it must be pointed out , out of the 18 man spurs squad yesterday featured only 3 british players and Liverpool 5 players the night before . is that progress for the home nation teams ?

    the number of children playing are now at record levels in the UK so yes the game has never been more powerful which is great .

    as mentioned a million times on here the sooner a breakaway European league takes off the better
    In regards to your point about home nations, I would make the point that they have all been shit for about 50 years while the British leagues were full of British players, and have improved recently with the globalisation of the premier league, maybe a smaller group of core players (Bale, Ramsey) playing at the elite is better at the top end.

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    I take your point there chris but I would love to see the uk breed top level elite football players not just up and down merchants . you can get them 10 a penny in any academy right now . there is a huge difference now with the standards so high .

    oh well back down to earth now and settle down for the Newport game on soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Gwapo View Post
    It may be two "English" teams in the final, but in reality its two teams from the richest league in the final. They are hardly littered with English players
    Does that mean Cardiff City don't classify as a Welsh club but merely as a club from the richest league?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Monk View Post
    The media hype is duping people into thinking its at its best.
    Perhaps people are forming their opinions based on what they're seeing with their own eyes.

    I'm greatly amused by the fact that there are those who apparently haven't enjoyed the glorious football we've witnessed this season, though. If they think it's shit, I'd love to know what they think is good.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    the standard of football in the elite circles of the game is breath taking .god knows how the game will pan out in say 10 years time . the players are almost robotic now as it is . as for globalisation of the game particularly the prem league it must be pointed out , out of the 18 man spurs squad yesterday featured only 3 british players and Liverpool 5 players the night before . is that progress for the home nation teams ?
    Maths obviously isn't your strong point then, Mozz.

    The Spurs squad actually contained six British players yesterday, while Liverpool's squad the night before contained eight. By comparison, the Barcelona squad contained just five Spaniards.

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