Cardiff City a big club?

[The Lone Gunman]

What were Leeds before Revie , Liverpool before Shankley ,nowhere near Where they are today and that only came with success , this is why I said in a previous post why I was so gutted about being relegated , none of this the championship is a better league with proper football from me , I just wanted us to sustain our position in the league in order for us to grow as a club and become an established premier league side not just a one season wonder again

What were Liverpool before Shankly? Well, the season before he took over in 1959, they were the eighth biggest club in the country in terms of attendances despite being in the Second Division. Indeed, during the two previous seasons they had the fifth highest attendances in the country despite being in the Second Division. If you know your football history, you'll know that Liverpool were a big club before Shankly, and a bigger club after Shankly.

As for Leeds, they really were struggling before Revie and had never been a big club until he worked his magic.

[walinoz]

What were Liverpool before Shankly? Well, the season before he took over in 1959, they were the eighth biggest club in the country in terms of attendances despite being in the Second Division. Indeed, during the two previous seasons they had the fifth highest attendances in the country despite being in the Second Division. If you know your football history, you'll know that Liverpool were a big club before Shankly, and a bigger club after Shankly.

As for Leeds, they really were struggling before Revie and had never been a big club until he worked his magic.

Fair enough about Liverpool but they didn’t win anything til he arrived and with their success they soon became a global name , City had good attendances in the 50s too , but my main point being, after being so long in the doldrums the only way we can grow as a club is with success and for us that would be establishing ourselves in the premier league and maybe do well in the cup competitions , we reached both domestic finals whilst being a championship club so that has to be our aim

[The Lone Gunman]

Fair enough about Liverpool but they didn’t win anything til he arrived.....

In fact, Liverpool were league champions twice in the 1920's and once in the 1940's.

Between 1896 and when Shankly arrived at Liverpool in 1959, there had been just two seasons in which the club had finished outside the top ten in England and Wales in terms of attendances. They've almost always been a big club.

Your points about Cardiff are valid, though.

[bobh]

What were Liverpool before Shankly? Well, the season before he took over in 1959, they were the eighth biggest club in the country in terms of attendances despite being in the Second Division. Indeed, during the two previous seasons they had the fifth highest attendances in the country despite being in the Second Division. If you know your football history, you'll know that Liverpool were a big club before Shankly, and a bigger club after Shankly.

As for Leeds, they really were struggling before Revie and had never been a big club until he bribed the opposition.

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