Chris Coleman given the Spanish Archer in China

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Maybe in 50 years time and having had no sign of Wales having been in a Euro or World Cup semi-final for half a century people will recognise Coleman's achievement with Wales. Seems like many people merely consider him to have been lucky in overseeing a team that overachieved.

[Since62]

Maybe in 50 years time and having had no sign of Wales having been in a Euro or World Cup semi-final for half a century people will recognise Coleman's achievement with Wales. Seems like many people merely consider him to have been lucky in overseeing a team that overachieved.

He was a very good manager for Wales , but his track record as a club manager has been pretty poor for the vast majority of the time

[Taunton Blue Genie]

He was a very good manager for Wales , but his track record as a club manager has been pretty poor for the vast majority of the time

Indeed, sir, indeed.

[blue matt]

Maybe in 50 years time and having had no sign of Wales having been in a Euro or World Cup semi-final for half a century people will recognise Coleman's achievement with Wales. Seems like many people merely consider him to have been lucky in overseeing a team that overachieved.

to be fair, the team was good, it all clicked at the right time, yes i feel he was very lucky to oversee a team that was decent (and better still with Bale ) and clicked as one, but i am sure Cookie would say the same thing