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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    I think you would actually find that most of the BBC are left wingers.
    How can you know who’s in charge of bbc news and watch bbc news and then think this mate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood Blues View Post
    Independant? Guardian? Observer? New Statesman
    Centrist paper, the same paper and a weekly magazine ffs

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    Maybe he is seen as dangerous because he is.
    But he is one of them. He has been a politician almost all his life. He was renowned for refusing to toe the leadership line so often, and voted against what the party wanted on more occasions than you could count. He now heads up a leadership cabal that attempts to oust anyone who speaks up against his leadership. witness momentum trying to deselect MPs who oppose his/their ideas.

    He is very dangerous, I just pray that the country never has the opportunity to find out how dangerous.
    Well said.

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    Corbyn would have to go some to match the chaos caused by the last two incumbents at number 10.

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    A couple of quotes from people who have worked inside it. But I'm sure people with all the internet skills will be able to find something to argue against it.

    One thing I would say, I never said individuals were biased but that the BBC as an institution is. It is that way by virtue of the people who work there, some of whom think they are more intelligent than the 'masses' who need to be 'guided' and 'educated'.

    https://biasedbbc.org/quotes-of-shame/

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    A couple of quotes from people who have worked inside it. But I'm sure people with all the internet skills will be able to find something to argue against it.

    One thing I would say, I never said individuals were biased but that the BBC as an institution is. It is that way by virtue of the people who work there, some of whom think they are more intelligent than the 'masses' who need to be 'guided' and 'educated'.

    https://biasedbbc.org/quotes-of-shame/
    I'm sure anyone could create a list of biased quotes depending on their political colours; there are plenty of people on the left who are exasperated at the BBC's stance at times. Maybe it depends on what you're listening to at the time - The News Quiz or the Today show.

    What's wrong with being 'educated'? Sometimes I watch telly to learn stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebirdman Of Alcathays View Post
    I'm sure anyone could create a list of biased quotes depending on their political colours; there are plenty of people on the left who are exasperated at the BBC's stance at times. Maybe it depends on what you're listening to at the time - The News Quiz or the Today show.

    What's wrong with being 'educated'? Sometimes I watch telly to learn stuff.
    I think this rather proves the point about the BBC's alleged bias

    https://inews.co.uk/culture/televisi...ght-wing-bias/

    It seems that, surprise, surprise the bias is nearly always seen as being in favour of the side that is opposite your own politics - something which may well suggest that the BBC is, broadly, neutral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    A couple of quotes from people who have worked inside it. But I'm sure people with all the internet skills will be able to find something to argue against it.

    One thing I would say, I never said individuals were biased but that the BBC as an institution is. It is that way by virtue of the people who work there, some of whom think they are more intelligent than the 'masses' who need to be 'guided' and 'educated'.

    https://biasedbbc.org/quotes-of-shame/
    Don't you think people need to be educated? Seems like quite a sensible approach to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Don't you think people need to be educated? Seems like quite a sensible approach to me.
    I think education is a wonderful thing. The comment about needing to be educated with regard to the people we were discussing was in, "We need to educate these people who obviouskly on't think the same as us, the error of their ways" It didin't mean education in the usual school - college- university way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Don't you think people need to be educated? Seems like quite a sensible approach to me.
    You certainly need reeducating

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    Maybe he is seen as dangerous because he is.
    But he is one of them. He has been a politician almost all his life. He was renowned for refusing to toe the leadership line so often, and voted against what the party wanted on more occasions than you could count. He now heads up a leadership cabal that attempts to oust anyone who speaks up against his leadership. witness momentum trying to deselect MPs who oppose his/their ideas.

    He is very dangerous, I just pray that the country never has the opportunity to find out how dangerous.
    People have been saying this for years, we have had a general election since Corbyn took over and nobody has been deselected for speaking out against the leadership. What would it take for you to start to doubt your own position?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    A couple of quotes from people who have worked inside it. But I'm sure people with all the internet skills will be able to find something to argue against it.

    One thing I would say, I never said individuals were biased but that the BBC as an institution is. It is that way by virtue of the people who work there, some of whom think they are more intelligent than the 'masses' who need to be 'guided' and 'educated'.

    https://biasedbbc.org/quotes-of-shame/
    Seems like a neutral source there.

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    Would anyone expect a compete scum bag who has opinions like this about the suadi
    Embassy murder to think the bbc was left leaning though? This prick would think farage was a lefty.


    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    While any mrder is unjustifiable remember that this man knew the risk he was taking as shown by his instruction to his woman, and also that if he was murdered then the murder did not happen in Turkey. He may just as easily have been arrested and renditioned to Saudi Arabia.
    We are told there is proof but no one is rushing to reveal it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rudy gestede View Post
    Would anyone expect a compete scum bag who has opinions like this about the suadi
    Embassy murder to think the bbc was left leaning though? This prick would think farage was a lefty.
    There you go again with your totally unnecessary and offensive language. Who the feck are you to call anyone a prick or a scumbag you keyboard warrior toss pot?

    You must have wasted some time trawling to find that post mind. It was in the Saudi murder thread ages ago. Couldn't you find anything later?
    And what I said was neither left nor right wing, but a simple fact. The man knew the Saudi's didn't like him (to put it mildly) and he knew that when he entered the Embassy he would be on Saudi sovereign territory, so by extension he knew the risk he was taking. you must have a very twisted view of things to turn that into something you are suggesting.
    you're just an insulting arsehole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    There you go again with your totally unnecessary and offensive language. Who the feck are you to call anyone a prick or a scumbag you keyboard warrior toss pot?

    You must have wasted some time trawling to find that post mind. It was in the Saudi murder thread ages ago. Couldn't you find anything later?
    And what I said was neither left nor right wing, but a simple fact. The man knew the Saudi's didn't like him (to put it mildly) and he knew that when he entered the Embassy he would be on Saudi sovereign territory, so by extension he knew the risk he was taking. you must have a very twisted view of things to turn that into something you are suggesting.
    you're just an insulting arsehole.
    The moral high ground has been conceded a tad with your own invective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    The moral high ground has been conceded a tad with your own invective.
    Oh bugger, you spotted it!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    Oh bugger, you spotted it!!!
    You are correct though, this board’s Jeremy’s Corbyn resorts to insults at the drop of a hat. I’ve been insulted and sworn at by him. Luckily for us we are not snowflakes and sticks and stones etc etc. Still he does lose the debate each time he swears at and insults other posters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueArmy 86 View Post
    Tara 👋
    So the Tories are having a third election to appoint a leader, after not being happy with the outcome of the last two.

    Meanwhile, voters are denied a confirmatory vote on Brexit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    So the Tories are having a third election to appoint a leader, after not being happy with the outcome of the last two.

    Meanwhile, voters are denied a confirmatory vote on Brexit.
    Second election to elect a Prime Minister.

    The one before Theresa May was Cameron in 2005!!

    They were happy enough with him for over 10 years and he wasn't pushed but went himself.

    I'm not a great fan of a second referendum but if it was just to confirm the way we leave I could accept it.

    I would not support one if remain was one of the choices

    We've done that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood Blues View Post
    Second election to elect a Prime Minister.

    The one before Theresa May was Cameron in 2005!!

    They were happy enough with him for over 10 years and he wasn't pushed but went himself.

    I'm not a great fan of a second referendum but if it was just to confirm the way we leave I could accept it.

    I would not support one if remain was one of the choices

    We've done that.
    He didn't so much go himself as made a quick exit so not to deal with the incredible mess he had made. Like throwing up all over a friend's living room and making a dash for it rather than owning up.

    There is an argument that the first referendum had one side breaking electoral law and our system being open to misinformation spread by foreign countries. If you have any time for that then I'm not sure how you could want a second referendum until that has been properly investigated and any massive holes in the system closed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surge View Post
    He didn't so much go himself as made a quick exit so not to deal with the incredible mess he had made. Like throwing up all over a friend's living room and making a dash for it rather than owning up.

    There is an argument that the first referendum had one side breaking electoral law and our system being open to misinformation spread by foreign countries. If you have any time for that then I'm not sure how you could want a second referendum until that has been properly investigated and any massive holes in the system closed.
    I understand you and many others have a point of view regarding the referendum but to keep rehash the same comments and arguments is a little pointless don't you think? It has happened, it is done. Finished. Dead. I do believe it has been looked at by those in some power who wanted to find a reason to nullify it, but it stands. Talk about having another by all means but why waste our energy on the last one?
    If Tony Blair hadn't changed the referendum rules in order to get his Wales Assembly referendum through then the Brexit referendum would have resoundingly returned a 'remain' result, but what is is.
    Just for a little clarity on my own position before I am attacked by all the usual pro remain warriors. I was a pro remain voter but I believe that having voted to go we should do it. so if there were another I would vote to leave.

    Further, regarding hard or soft exit, I have been taught in and by life that as a general rule no decision is right or wrong until after it is made. It is what is done or not done after the decision, in consequence of it, that normally brings about a satisfactory or unsatisfactory result. So no one can tell which course is best until it is taken and in this case there is no previous situation to give guidance. so lets just make a decision and then all work together as a nation to make it right for all of us!! All this inability to make a decision is helping no one and only making this country look weak and stupid. If those in a position to see that cannot see it then lets get rid of them all.

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    God, I must be bored this morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by severncity View Post
    You are correct though, this board’s Jeremy’s Corbyn resorts to insults at the drop of a hat. I’ve been insulted and sworn at by him. Luckily for us we are not snowflakes and sticks and stones etc etc. Still he does lose the debate each time he swears at and insults other posters.
    Both of you share abhorrent views you deserve to be insulted. This board is a cesspit of backwards old men and losers who think their backwards opinion deserve to be respected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rudy gestede View Post
    Both of you share abhorrent views you deserve to be insulted. This board is a cesspit of backwards old men and losers who think their backwards opinion deserve to be respected.
    What abhorrent views do I hold?

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    Quote Originally Posted by severncity View Post
    What abhorrent views do I hold?
    I hope you feel better for saying that. I assume by 'abhorrent views' you mean views that you think we hold that you do not personally agree with.
    So by extension do you think that we should not be allowed to hold or voice views that you disagree with? That sounds very much like old school Soviet 'conservative' thinking to me. Where people were afraid to be heard voicing contrary opinions for fear of having a visit by people they wouldn't like.
    But perhaps that is the kind of society you want this to be?
    On a side note, are you a member of momentum?

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