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    Widdecombe

    What a vile, repulsive individual.

    https://twitter.com/skynewspolitics/...107392000?s=21

    If you voted for the Brexit party hang your head in shame.

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    Re: Widdecombe

    she's not on my xmas card list either but i don't see the parallel of hanging your head in shame if you voted brexit ?

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    [QUOTE=MOZZER2;4977610]she's not on my xmas card list either but i don't see the parallel of hanging your head in shame if you voted brexit

    Read it again! I said hang your head in shame if you voted for The Brexit Party not Brexit. A party of xenophobic, racist, money laundering, bigots.

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    It’s a bit like the saying. Not every one who voted Brexit is a racist but every racist voted Brexit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auntie Andy View Post
    It’s a bit like the saying. Not every one who voted Brexit is a racist but every racist voted Brexit.
    No I think many racists voted UKIP

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    Re: Widdecombe

    It's obviously fine to generalise in this Fred, so i guess that;

    it's a bit like saying that not everyone who votes Labour is anti-Semitic but every anti Semitic racist voted Labour.

    BTW, I don't actually believe this, but in keeping with the tone of the thread!!!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood Blues View Post
    No I think many racists voted UKIP
    Oooooh steady as in the referendum I hear some socialist veered towards UKIP.

    It's a fine divide , wanting to have better and safer control of ones borders , so they are not abused , doesnt make you a racist .

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    Only an idiot would believe that everyone who voted Leave was a racist and I think it is a word which is used far too often to describe someone whose views you don't like. However, I just found this definition of racist which seems a fair one to me;-

    "showing or feeling discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or believing that a particular race is superior to another."

    which seems reasonable enough to me - can I ask, generally speaking, who do you think that description could be best applied to, someone who voted Leave or someone who voted Remain?

    I cannot agree with the "Not every one who voted Brexit is a racist but every racist voted Brexit." statement if the Brexit mentioned in there is the party, but, see it as a concept, like Will Self did here



    and I think it's probably true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Only an idiot would believe that everyone who voted Leave was a racist and I think it is a word which is used far too often to describe someone whose views you don't like. However, I just found this definition of racist which seems a fair one to me;-

    "showing or feeling discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or believing that a particular race is superior to another."

    which seems reasonable enough to me - can I ask, generally speaking, who do you think that description could be best applied to, someone who voted Leave or someone who voted Remain?

    I cannot agree with the "Not every one who voted Brexit is a racist but every racist voted Brexit." statement if the Brexit mentioned in there is the party, but, see it as a concept, like Will Self did here



    and I think it's probably true.
    One could argue there's pockets of different racism in the remain voters . We certainly see that in football which is has a lot of what's known as working class voters and not all of them are right wing .

    Spain is a classic example of racism on the terraces, and a socialist or democratic socialist voters blocks ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    One could argue there's pockets of different racism in the remain voters . We certainly see that in football which is has a lot of what's known as working class voters and not all of them are right wing .

    Spain is a classic example of racism on the terraces, and a socialist or democratic socialist voters blocks ??
    Surely one of the lessons of the Referendum was that voting did not divide up solely on left v right lines. For example, I was talking to someone who is nearly twenty years older than me a few days back who told me she had voted Conservative all her life, but, like me, voted Green in the European elections because of Brexit, while my sister, who is certainly to the left politically,voted Leave.

    All I said was that it seems to me that, going by the dictionary definition of the word "racist", people who fitted that description would surely have been Leave voters - I made no claims as to whether they would be to the right or left politically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Surely one of the lessons of the Referendum was that voting did not divide up solely on left v right lines. For example, I was talking to someone who is nearly twenty years older than me a few days back who told me she had voted Conservative all her life, but, like me, voted Green in the European elections because of Brexit, while my sister, who is certainly to the left politically,voted Leave.

    All I said was that it seems to me that, going by the dictionary definition of the word "racist", people who fitted that description would surely have been Leave voters - I made no claims as to whether they would be to the right or left politically.
    I'm not suggesting you did, I as was simply offering the same conflicting view it has created , its not black and white, and very divisive in its nature ,you can see that in all political parties and people.

    I think deep down though there is a little racism in all of us and certainty not much tolerance ,some call it institutional racism and dont even realise they are of that thought process or behavior ,like you I see it in left , right minded folk , probably exists in the centralist liberals as well ,if they were pushed .

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    Re: Widdecombe

    anti-Semitism is becoming normal' in the Labour Party, according to a Labour MP

    Shirley Not?
    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/new...itism-16392942

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelsonca61 View Post
    anti-Semitism is becoming normal' in the Labour Party, according to a Labour MP

    Shirley Not?
    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/new...itism-16392942
    I think Jess Phiilips is the best humane politician I know ,I'd vote for her, and her party in a flash.

    To all the denial folk , this lady recognises anti semitism, bullying and harrassment in her party ,and has called it out ,she's on 24 hour police guard , its not an Israeli/Mosard state sponsored event , and she is very brave enough to say it , as it is ,well done Jess.

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