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    Portugal v Swiss. VARtastic

    Well that was interesting.

    Switzerland claim a penalty that was not immediately given, Portugal broke and earned a penalty within seconds that was given.

    Referee and VAR determined that Swiss claim was valid and took the play back for a Swiss penalty thereby ruling out the penalty awarded to the Portuguese

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    Re: Portugal v Swiss. VARtastic

    Turned into the Ronaldo show.

    Hat trick for Christiano

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    Re: Portugal v Swiss. VARtastic

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Morris View Post
    Well that was interesting.

    Switzerland claim a penalty that was not immediately given, Portugal broke and earned a penalty within seconds that was given.

    Referee and VAR determined that Swiss claim was valid and took the play back for a Swiss penalty thereby ruling out the penalty awarded to the Portuguese
    Vartisriano,c'mon England let's bring it home , altogether now "football s coming home "

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    Re: Portugal v Swiss. VARtastic

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Morris View Post
    Well that was interesting.

    Switzerland claim a penalty that was not immediately given, Portugal broke and earned a penalty within seconds that was given.

    Referee and VAR determined that Swiss claim was valid and took the play back for a Swiss penalty thereby ruling out the penalty awarded to the Portuguese
    Switzerland are my second team but that VAR decision was a farce. Could not believe how Switzerland were awarded that pen as they appealed for handball initially from Pépé, but the ref adjudged the coming together between Semedo and Seferovic as a foul...

    All for nothing in the end, Portugals second goal saw some great play between Névés, Bernardo and Ronaldo. But fair play to the Swiss, ignoring Xhaka's error for the killer 3rd goal they play clean disciplined football.

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    Re: Portugal v Swiss. VARtastic

    Quote Originally Posted by SuisseBluebird View Post
    Switzerland are my second team but that VAR decision was a farce. Could not believe how Switzerland were awarded that pen as they appealed for handball initially from Pépé, but the ref adjudged the coming together between Semedo and Seferovic as a foul...

    All for nothing in the end, Portugals second goal saw some great play between Névés, Bernardo and Ronaldo. But fair play to the Swiss, ignoring Xhaka's error for the killer 3rd goal they play clean disciplined football.
    At they can moan about VAR now instead of the Ref.

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    Re: Portugal v Swiss. VARtastic

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Morris View Post
    Well that was interesting.

    Switzerland claim a penalty that was not immediately given, Portugal broke and earned a penalty within seconds that was given.

    Referee and VAR determined that Swiss claim was valid and took the play back for a Swiss penalty thereby ruling out the penalty awarded to the Portuguese
    VAR is going to kill the game. It's an absolute farce.

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    Re: Portugal v Swiss. VARtastic

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    VAR is going to kill the game. It's an absolute farce.
    I think it's an improvement. It was the right call yesterday

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    Re: Portugal v Swiss. VARtastic

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    VAR is going to kill the game. It's an absolute farce.
    Bet you £100 that VAR doesn't kill the game of football

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    Re: Portugal v Swiss. VARtastic

    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    Bet you £100 that VAR doesn't kill the game of football
    Not for armchair fans. Not sure it will enhance the stadium experience.

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    Re: Portugal v Swiss. VARtastic

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    I think it's an improvement. It was the right call yesterday
    How much do we have to sacrifice to be "right"? It's going to ruin the emotion of the game, that moment when the goal goes in and you'll immediately stop, look at the ref and say well let's hope VAR doesn't rule this out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    I think it's an improvement. It was the right call yesterday
    Whether it was right or wrong is immaterial, it was farcical !!!

    Takes the game closer to the armchair fan and makes it like a computer game.

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    Re: Portugal v Swiss. VARtastic

    https://popularstand.wordpress.com/2...way-from-here/

    This is pretty close to my feelings on VAR.

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    Re: Portugal v Swiss. VARtastic

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    How much do we have to sacrifice to be "right"? It's going to ruin the emotion of the game, that moment when the goal goes in and you'll immediately stop, look at the ref and say well let's hope VAR doesn't rule this out.
    There was plenty of emotions last night around this decision. Swiss fans complaining their pen shout wasn't given, then horror as there's a stonewall pen at the other end which suddenly turns to elation as the pen is ruled out and the original one given and then scored.
    How can you say that's taking emotions out of the game? There's a 5 minute rollercoaster of emotions that nicely encapsulates the experience of a football fan and shows why it is so popular compared to other sports that don't have these highs and lows

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    Re: Portugal v Swiss. VARtastic

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    There was plenty of emotions last night around this decision. Swiss fans complaining their pen shout wasn't given, then horror as there's a stonewall pen at the other end which suddenly turns to elation as the pen is ruled out and the original one given and then scored.
    How can you say that's taking emotions out of the game? There's a 5 minute rollercoaster of emotions that nicely encapsulates the experience of a football fan and shows why it is so popular compared to other sports that don't have these highs and lows
    1. Nobody in the ground has any clue what's going on
    2. You score, you go nuts. It's the best feeling in the world. VAR check, flat as a pancake. The goal is confirmed and you're like, oh right... great.

    It is solely for TV. Also how far do you want to go back? Where do you stop? It's ruined rugby league and union too.

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    Re: Portugal v Swiss. VARtastic

    "You're not fit to V A R, you're not fit to V A R"...

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    Re: Portugal v Swiss. VARtastic

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    1. Nobody in the ground has any clue what's going on
    2. You score, you go nuts. It's the best feeling in the world. VAR check, flat as a pancake. The goal is confirmed and you're like, oh right... great.

    It is solely for TV. Also how far do you want to go back? Where do you stop? It's ruined rugby league and union too.
    So you don't lose anything, you still get the best feeling in the world, then get a bonus "oh great"

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    Re: Portugal v Swiss. VARtastic

    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    So you don't lose anything, you still get the best feeling in the world, then get a bonus "oh great"
    But you'll lose that feeling of euphoria because you have to check it. It's like cricket, you get the LBW and then you have to see if its out on DRS.

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    Re: Portugal v Swiss. VARtastic

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    But you'll lose that feeling of euphoria because you have to check it. It's like cricket, you get the LBW and then you have to see if its out on DRS.
    If it was for every goal I'd understand but it's going to be once in a blue moon so I don't really get why people are so up in arms about it

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    Re: Portugal v Swiss. VARtastic

    surely if the Swiss penalty was given the Portuguese one should have stood as well - after all the player who infringed did so when the game was "in play"?

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    Re: Portugal v Swiss. VARtastic

    Quote Originally Posted by Toadstool View Post
    surely if the Swiss penalty was given the Portuguese one should have stood as well - after all the player who infringed did so when the game was "in play"?
    You’ve opened a can of worms here.

    What if a Portuguese player would have been brought down, when through on goal. Red card offence, would the red card be rescinded????

    What constitutes the ball is not in play !!!

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    Re: Portugal v Swiss. VARtastic

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    You’ve opened a can of worms here.

    What if a Portuguese player would have been brought down, when through on goal. Red card offence, would the red card be rescinded????

    What constitutes the ball is not in play !!!
    Exactly, player goes through in offside position, lino plays on waiting for var, defender commits a foul he doesn`t have to make and gets sent off. or is there a rule in place for that scenario.

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    Re: Portugal v Swiss. VARtastic

    Quote Originally Posted by Philbccfc View Post
    Exactly, player goes through in offside position, lino plays on waiting for var, defender commits a foul he doesn`t have to make and gets sent off. or is there a rule in place for that scenario.
    He wouldn't be sent off.

    But do linos play on waiting for VAR?

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    Re: Portugal v Swiss. VARtastic

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    He wouldn't be sent off.

    But do linos play on waiting for VAR?
    So, a player can make a thigh high tackle, jabbing his studs into another players leg, but he’s not sent off because they’re going back 60 seconds for a supposed pelanty offence !!

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    Re: Portugal v Swiss. VARtastic

    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    If it was for every goal I'd understand but it's going to be once in a blue moon so I don't really get why people are so up in arms about it
    But it isn't once in a blue moon, is it? It's used all the time.

    According to this article
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42781236

    In the 804 matches there were 3,947 checks for possible reviewable incidents. That's basically 5 VAR decisions every game.

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    Re: Portugal v Swiss. VARtastic

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    So, a player can make a thigh high tackle, jabbing his studs into another players leg, but he’s not sent off because they’re going back 60 seconds for a supposed pelanty offence !!
    If it's violent play then I guess the red would still stand. Just like if the ball is dead for any other reason

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    Re: Portugal v Swiss. VARtastic

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    But it isn't once in a blue moon, is it? It's used all the time.

    According to this article
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42781236

    In the 804 matches there were 3,947 checks for possible reviewable incidents. That's basically 5 VAR decisions every game.
    There's no way in a million years there'll be 5 VAR decisions in an average football league game

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    Re: Portugal v Swiss. VARtastic

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    You’ve opened a can of worms here.

    What if a Portuguese player would have been brought down, when through on goal. Red card offence, would the red card be rescinded????

    What constitutes the ball is not in play !!!
    Not really. Just take a poll on social media as to whether Portugal should get a penalty too. Or the defender a red card or whatever. Sky subscribers’ votes count double.

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    Re: Portugal v Swiss. VARtastic

    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    There's no way in a million years there'll be 5 VAR decisions in an average football league game
    I will definitely bet you that there will be 5 VAR decisions in a game of football in the next million years

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    Re: Portugal v Swiss. VARtastic

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    VAR is going to kill the game. It's an absolute farce.
    A VARce perhaps.

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    Re: Portugal v Swiss. VARtastic

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    So, a player can make a thigh high tackle, jabbing his studs into another players leg, but he’s not sent off because they’re going back 60 seconds for a supposed pelanty offence !!
    Does it matter CR7 would have sorted it.

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