Gove.

[the other bob wilson]

Is the lack of a thread on here yet a sign that this story;-

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ep-regret.html

is something of a non event?

If I were a Tory thinking of opting for Gove as leader (which I'm certainly not!), it wouldn't change my vote.

[surge]

‘I took drugs on several occasions at social events more than 20 years ago. At the time I was a young journalist. It was a mistake. I look back and I think, I wish I hadn’t done that.’

"More than 20 years ago" does leave it open but someone on twitter pointed out that 20 years ago he'd have been 31 and therefore not "a young journalist". Indeed, if you apply the national mindset seen in response to Shamima Begum then he was a fully grown adult who knew right from wrong and therefore should face up to their crime. In this case I believe that's up to 7 years in prison, an unlimited fine or both.

Might be interesting conversation between him and Sajid Javid though: "in a speech two weeks ago he (Javid) tried to pin the current surge in knife crime on the drug habits of the wealthy, accusing them of hypocrisy in applying ethical standards to some parts of their lives but abandoning these principles when sharing a line of coke with their friends." (https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-a8896241.html)

Or, more likely, it won't have any sizeable impact. Gove has shown himself to be skilled at targeting and taking down Corbyn and has voice on Brexit which is compatible with Tory membership so unlikely that Javid describing him as a hypocrite lands a significant blow.

[Wales-Bales]

I have no problem with the cocain, it's the part he played in May's vote free appointment as PM that worries me. He would just be a continuation of the plan.

[Heathblue]

Was he being bribed? Story out of nowhere. His chance is gone 🤣🤣🤣🤣they could not pick an ex Coke user surely?

[the other bob wilson]

Seems there's a book coming out about him in which his cocaine use would have been revealed.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...Prime-Minister

[life on mars]

Is the lack of a thread on here yet a sign that this story;-

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ep-regret.html

is something of a non event?


If I were a Tory thinking of opting for Gove as leader (which I'm certainly not!), it wouldn't change my vote.

Nor me ,in fact he could have adhered himself to folk in some way (which is tough for him )

Crickey half the planet has dine some drugs ,at some point .

If JC admitted these he'd probaly have a poll bounce .

Cant help wonder how many things Boris has poured into his body.

[life on mars]

I have no problem with the cocain, it's the part he played in May's vote free appointment as PM that worries me. He would just be a continuation of the plan.

Yes on the button , Tories have to move away from the same animal , bet they are fuming Ruth Davidson doesn't have a seat at the table .


Down to three I think :
Boris
Hunt
Sajid

[life on mars]

"More than 20 years ago" does leave it open but someone on twitter pointed out that 20 years ago he'd have been 31 and therefore not "a young journalist". Indeed, if you apply the national mindset seen in response to Shamima Begum then he was a fully grown adult who knew right from wrong and therefore should face up to their crime. In this case I believe that's up to 7 years in prison, an unlimited fine or both.

Might be interesting conversation between him and Sajid Javid though: "in a speech two weeks ago he (Javid) tried to pin the current surge in knife crime on the drug habits of the wealthy, accusing them of hypocrisy in applying ethical standards to some parts of their lives but abandoning these principles when sharing a line of coke with their friends." (https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-a8896241.html)

Or, more likely, it won't have any sizeable impact. Gove has shown himself to be skilled at targeting and taking down Corbyn and has voice on Brexit which is compatible with Tory membership so unlikely that Javid describing him as a hypocrite lands a significant blow.

It's a good point you raise on knife crime and drugs , he could counter by saying being in that environment brings a realisation of the use of drugs bt establishment is indeed impacted within youth culture .

[Heathblue]

Seems there's a book coming out about him in which his cocaine use would have been revealed.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...Prime-Minister

Had a look at the sky news video, what he did 20 years ago doesn't bother me, skeletons for most of us regarding our past, but drugs are a massive issue in this and most country's, if he was voted in by the Tories and then had to introduce new legislation and the like regarding drugs and drug use it would be rather awkward for him and labour wouldn't extract the urine across the bench on a daily basis to make gain from his indiscretion's would they
he's done, the door has been opened for Boris, and the spectacle of a UK/USA summit of Trump and Boris at the top table or perhaps we will see a late entry by the Mogg ?.

[the other bob wilson]

Had a look at the sky news video, what he did 20 years ago doesn't bother me, skeletons for most of us regarding our past, but drugs are a massive issue in this and most country's, if he was voted in by the Tories and then had to introduce new legislation and the like regarding drugs and drug use it would be rather awkward for him and labour wouldn't extract the urine across the bench on a daily basis to make gain from his indiscretion's would they
he's done, the door has been opened for Boris, and the spectacle of a UK/USA summit of Trump and Boris at the top table or perhaps we will see a late entry by the Mogg ?.

Yes, in spite of my earlier comment about not being too bothered about Gove's drug taking, I admit that the fact he only chose to own up to it because he knew someone else was going to break the news leaves a nasty taste in the mouth. There was a journalist being interviewed on Newsnight on Friday about another matter who said that he thought there would be similar type stories emerging regarding some of the other candidates in the coming days.

[lardy]

Yes, in spite of my earlier comment about not being too bothered about Gove's drug taking, I admit that the fact he only chose to own up to it because he knew someone else was going to break the news leaves a nasty taste in the mouth. There was a journalist being interviewed on Newsnight on Friday about another matter who said that he thought there would be similar type stories emerging regarding some of the other candidates in the coming days.

Weird why this didn't come up in the previous leadership race, as Gove was involved in that too.

[Heathblue]

Weird why this didn't come up in the previous leadership race, as Gove was involved in that too.

No Story about to emerge at the time ?, I note Boris admitted to a past indiscretion but then retracted it, every investigative journalist in the country (outside the MSM ones) will have Boris in their scope today looking for the big one (earner that is).

[surge]

Another post from social media reminded us that while Education Secretary Gove brought in the rules that would disqualify teachers who were found in possession of class a substances.

[life on mars]

Another post from social media reminded us that while Education Secretary Gove brought in the rules that would disqualify teachers who were found in possession of class a substances.

Ironic, double standards in all politc speak, both sides.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Weird why this didn't come up in the previous leadership race, as Gove was involved in that too.

It could be that alliances have changed since the previous leadership race and that an individual who knew about the situation (and it is believed that a number of people in his circle did) is now batting for another side. Could even be that someone at the publishing house or printing facility has blown the gaff.

[Wales-Bales]

Another post from social media reminded us that while Education Secretary Gove brought in the rules that would disqualify teachers who were found in possession of class a substances.

It's not the sort of thing you'd want our teachers taking to school is it

[Wales-Bales]

It could be that alliances have changed since the previous leadership race and that an individual who knew about the situation (and it is believed that a number of people in his circle did) is now batting for another side. Could even be that someone at the publishing house or printing facility has blown the gaff.

If you've been following the Trump stitch-up you would know exactly where this kind of stuff comes from, and it's the same in every country. This is possibly the only time it has come under the microscope though, due to the target actually being voted into office and controlling the machinery. This sort of operation rarely fails.

[Bluebirdman Of Alcathays]

I spoke to a journalist friend who knows the author of the forthcoming book and he put the story out as it's good timing for that, and that's about it. Seems most are forgiving of Gove but might not go down too well with the Tory membership.

[Wales-Bales]

I spoke to a journalist friend who knows the author of the forthcoming book and he put the story out as it's good timing for that, and that's about it. Seems most are forgiving of Gove but might not go down too well with the Tory membership.

Nothing happens by accident.

[Bluebirdman Of Alcathays]

Nothing happens by accident.

Did the overlords organise the 'accident' where you were dropped on your head as a child?

A book about a high level politician, a bit of gossip and maximising publicity. Sometimes things are that simple.

[Wales-Bales]

Did the overlords organise the 'accident' where you were dropped on your head as a child?

A book about a high level politician, a bit of gossip and maximising publicity. Sometimes things are that simple.

The little people do not control the big game. If you believe that you are deluded. And you can stick your ad hominems where the sun don't shine, cos it just makes you look even more rediculous.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

I spoke to a journalist friend who knows the author of the forthcoming book and he put the story out as it's good timing for that, and that's about it. Seems most are forgiving of Gove but might not go down too well with the Tory membership.

Curious though - as, on balance, it won't do Gove any favours.

[Bluebirdman Of Alcathays]

The little people do not control the big game. If you believe that you are deluded. And you can stick your ad hominems where the sun don't shine, cos it just makes you look even more rediculous.

You often like a dig, so maybe you should take your own advice. Is Owen Bennett (the author of the Gove book) a little person or part of the big game? What's his role in the whole thing?

[life on mars]

I spoke to a journalist friend who knows the author of the forthcoming book and he put the story out as it's good timing for that, and that's about it. Seems most are forgiving of Gove but might not go down too well with the Tory membership.

Even more irony , and having worked in and out of London for a while, I was shocked how many senior high flying managers were snorting this stuff, just to keep going ,to a man they were Tories , so I'm guessing the 50 to 65 year old Tories would be forgiving ,but not the older blue rinse,church going , Daily Mail bigoted ones not .

And I'd put serious money on leading socialist types, also having had a blow or snort, at some time.

[Wales-Bales]

Curious though - as, on balance, it won't do Gove any favours.

What's curious, the double hearsay?