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Well done you, earning money from the f ucking obviousOriginally Posted by Croesy Blue
I am all for environmental policies to drive us to be “greener”, however, the UK represents less than 1% of the global population unless we can bring North & South America, China, India and the USSR then what we do has very little bearing on GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGE.
What do you mean? I didn’t even say what my job is.
On iPhone so can’t duplicate your post, but I’m sure you said “your JOB was related to climate change” .
So you’re one of the f uckers trying to frighten us, are you not ????
Neither but I work in energy so it’s related to it.
Why do you think people are trying to frighten you?
What’s frightening you?
Background global CO2 levels have never been as high as they are now (just passed 400ppm) across the last 4 Ice Ages (aroud 420,000 years). ~300 ppm is the more usual maximum. It's looking pretty conclusive that this is not just normal climatic variation:
https://cdiac.ess-dive.lbl.gov/trends/co2/vostok.html
CO2 is not the only driver for climate change as you know but it appears to be a good proxy for temperature changes:
https://e360.yale.edu/features/how-t...why-it-matters
Not me, but some little shits are telling people to put some monstrosity’s on their roofs.
Unfortunately, after they’ve done this, they find it hard to sell their house!!!!
Be green by all means, but don’t CON people
I think you meant to say inform you. You decide whether you are frightened or not. Interesting that you think that someone pointing out that what now seems undeniable is a f ucker. Shall we pretend it isn't happening then?
Presumably you're old enough not to care much as the worst potential effects won't affect you too much, so you can relax.
EDIT: Just seen your next post. I presume this is someone who's been badly advised to sell their roof rights to a PV installer? I agree this was a stupid thing to advise anyone to do but there are sharks in every industry
There are very good reasons that the warning we are currently experiencing is man made and not a natural cycle. Wouldn't take very long to Google it if you were interested. I think new scientist did a good introduction to the science behind it a couple of years ago.
Climate change is cyclical though, it’s just this time it’s different in it’s rate.
It’ll always be cyclical though. It’ll change, and change again. It just won’t be as we know it now.
In previous warm periods, the earth didn't have to support 7 billion humans.
Also the excess co2 in the atmosphere in previous warm periods came after initial warming. This time it has come before, and it is set to trigger even more release of co2
It's all too late.
If we wiped out all human life on the planet, it would still take decades for it to have an effect on global warming. Four decades. Then, temperatures would peak.
My energy company is 100% green. Even though it is, I still keep turning all lights off and trying to save electric because if people on 100% green energy increase their usage, it means that more electricity has to be generatad from gas and coal.
I moved closer to work, it is more expensive for me to do that, but I no longer have a car. I don' take any flights any more. Nobody makes sacrifices. That's why we're in a mess.
Such great ignorance.the wild Llfe of the Gwent marshes stopped us building a M4 relief road which will hinder any future prosperity in South Wales
the governments has set stringent CO2 targets for car emissions hence Bridgend Ford closing down
so yes the green party and alike are doing wonders for the economy of south wales !
lets look at the food industry slaughter houses are responsible for large output of green house gases contributing to climate change
are 50 mph speed limits at 4am in the morning on the M4 really going to help us ?
everything in life from food to industry is affected .god knows what is the answer ?
by the way there is a politics forum on this site
A thriving economy is not important compared to global warming.
It looks nice and clean. But, Australia still produce large amounts of electricity through coal and gas, so Australia is a shit example.
Wrong.
Climate experts were NOT persuading people to buy diesel cars. The fact is that diesel cars produce less Carbon Dioxide. Do you really think that scientists did not know that diesel cars churn out NO2? What happened was that the Government persuaded people to go to diesel because it helped them in getting their CO2 targets. No scientist has ever said diesel was cleaner, and if they have they would have been laughed at in the science community.
Yes, the earth does go through cycles. The Sahara used to be a tropical rainforest. But, this current cycle is unlike anything ever seen in the history of the planet.
There is plenty of evidence available, and it's well documented. Even at the highest level, the percentage of scientists who believe that climate change isn't man made is about 3 in a 100. The rest all say it IS man-made. But, sadly, the stupid still "need convincing" . If you HAVE been following the evidence, then I can't see how you are not convinced.
Just a question here, even if you are not convinced are you changing your habits just in case? Are you going for the cheapest electric provider, or the greenest? Are you cutting back on electricity usage? Do you tumble dry clothes in the summer, and do you fill your kettle to boil water, only to chuck half of it away? Do you walk instead of using the car?
What evidence have you seen that global warming ain't happening? Why are you so easily refuting the opinions of scientists? I know why, because you are stupid and you showed that when you claimed that scientists were finding that NO2 is actually bad! Stone me.
And why do you think it's different in its rate this time compared to the other times?
You should be frightened. We are past the point of no return, and life is going to be very difficult for your kids and grandkids. You'll probably be ok though, so why care?
Absolutely mad that the people who don’t believe climate change isn’t happening don’t appear to have read any of the latest available information or evidence and appear not to understand why we believe it is happening and say the experts haven’t got a clue.
It’s almost like they’ve watched 5 minutes of a news story about it then decided they know everything about it and are convinced it’s all going to be fine anyway.
I’m sure it’s just a coincidence these are the exact same people who voted for brexit.
I take it that you and Allez Allez Allez are going to vote for the Green Party in the next general Election?
The diesel question is an interesting one.
They definitely produce less carbon emissions than petrol.
Older diesel engines produce more particulates and nox emissions that are toxic than petrol engines - but only about as much as a petrol car from a few years earlier.
New diesel engines are about as clean as new petrol engines.
There has definitely been a backlash against diesel recently, and I suspect that people who make money from petrol and petrol engines might be behind that.
Interestingly in terms of the particulate matter, I spoke to a professor at Cardiff university a few years ago who said in his opinion petrol particulates were more dangerous as they are a lot smaller and go straight into your blood and tissues, whereas diesel particulate matter is larger and easier for your body to deal with.
Also the particulate matter from your car could well be less than that from those scented candles your Mrs insists on lighting every night.
Going back to climate change, to your last sentence- if you are yet to be convinced by the evidence, then you haven't fully understood it.
If the scientific evidence about climate change is to be believed, and there is no reason why it shouldn’t be, then why are governments all over the world, so reluctant to act on it?
Some pay lip service to it, and carry out token gestures, but on the whole, very little is being done, considering it’s a being described as a serious threat to future generations.
In reality, we could be living on the cleanest planet in the universe, and it wouldn’t matter a jot! As I said earlier in this thread, the probable downfall of mankind won’t be climate change, it will be greed and religion. 2 facts of life that, unlike climate change, can never be altered, or eradicated.
The most frustrating thing about the situation, is millions of people all over the world, are peace loving, caring of their fellow man, and willing to help the planet and others if they can, but since time began, the fate of many, has always been guided by the hands of few.
My advice to everyone on here, is live your life as fully as you can, be good to your neighbours and friends, and try not to worry about things out of your control.
It’s a fact of life, that the minority will always try to spoil it for the majority.
The companies making diesel engines also make petrol engines. There's a backlash against diesel for good reasons, governments sold it as clean but have used ambiguous definitions for the word clean. VW anyone?
I voted for them last election, and probably will next time.
Politicians aren't incentivised to consider anything that happens beyond the next election. Unless people start making the longer term a voting priority then that will never change
That’s good to hear. You sound like a man/woman of principle. Personally, I’d love to see them given power for 4 yrs, just to see what kind of job they can do. Like everyone else on here, I’ve only ever experienced being governed by one of the big 2, and neither have done a particularly good job in my lifetime.
Saying that though, it’s a near impossible job to keep 60m people happy.
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