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  1. #1

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    He shouldn’t go yet but I don’t think he has the ability to sort out our defence. With Bale no longer the player he was we don’t have many goals in this side.

  2. #2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    He shouldn’t go yet but I don’t think he has the ability to sort out our defence. With Bale no longer the player he was we don’t have many goals in this side.
    God we miss Ramsey.

  3. #3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    God we miss Ramsey.
    We also gotta find 2 fit central defenders

  4. #4

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    Can you honestly say that the last two performances have been anywhere near acceptable? We're a bloody shambles. We've got a good side that don't have a clue what to do.
    What I can say, is Bale has been ****ing useless for us lately for a player with his ability.
    Giggs has been on a hiding to nothing from his first game. He never showed any commitment to us as a player, so we’ve all got to hate him as a manager!!
    Our fans never showed much commitment to the team either when we were piss poor, but all came out of the woodwork when we started to get better
    I’d love us to qualify, if only to shut the negative cuts up on here.

  5. #5
    Heisenberg
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    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    What I can say, is Bale has been ****ing useless for us lately for a player with his ability.
    Giggs has been on a hiding to nothing from his first game. He never showed any commitment to us as a player, so we’ve all got to hate him as a manager!!
    Our fans never showed much commitment to the team either when we were piss poor, but all came out of the woodwork when we started to get better
    I’d love us to qualify, if only to shut the negative cuts up on here.
    Strange reason to want us to qualify, but ok.

  6. #6

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    At this moment in time I don't understand what Giggs wants us to be. I get that he prefers a left CB and a right CB to try and pass out from the back and I understand that he wants to bring in young players and expand our talent pool, but there is so much more that doesn't make sense at this time. Why does it seem that we play with 6 CB's and then 6 forwards and have no one to recover the ball in midfield? Why does it seem that our tactic for 90% of the game was to allow Daniel James to run fast and attract fouls, but not having worked on any sort of corner or free-kick routine that will help us score? Why does it seem that we're now worse at defending and worse at attacking but with a more talented squad?

    At this point we seem to be in the exact same position as we were in Coleman's final qualification group where we need to go on a long unbeaten run. Giggs has 3 months until the next game and most of that will see players on holiday or pre-season. Dear me, we're in trouble.

    On the bright-side, after the next round of fixtures we could be one point off second place and still in with a chance. Fans need to show up and be a credit where players and manager doesn't seem to be able to at the moment.

  7. #7

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    Gareth Bale has been far more disappointing that Giggs in recent times, imo. Giggs, in fairness is bringing through a shed led of young talent, who clearly still need more time to gel but he is on seriously thin ice. Bale however, get a ****ing grip. You're meant and emphasis on meant, to be one of the best players in the world and he is absolutely non existent, and has been for quite some time now. Very disappointing from Bale (and Giggs) again tonight.

  8. #8

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    Quote Originally Posted by surge View Post
    At this moment in time I don't understand what Giggs wants us to be. I get that he prefers a left CB and a right CB to try and pass out from the back and I understand that he wants to bring in young players and expand our talent pool, but there is so much more that doesn't make sense at this time. Why does it seem that we play with 6 CB's and then 6 forwards and have no one to recover the ball in midfield? Why does it seem that our tactic for 90% of the game was to allow Daniel James to run fast and attract fouls, but not having worked on any sort of corner or free-kick routine that will help us score? Why does it seem that we're now worse at defending and worse at attacking but with a more talented squad?

    At this point we seem to be in the exact same position as we were in Coleman's final qualification group where we need to go on a long unbeaten run. Giggs has 3 months until the next game and most of that will see players on holiday or pre-season. Dear me, we're in trouble.

    On the bright-side, after the next round of fixtures we could be one point off second place and still in with a chance. Fans need to show up and be a credit where players and manager doesn't seem to be able to at the moment.
    You ask some pertinent questions there which go to the heart of why I'm concerned by what I've seen of Ryan Giggs' management so far - although I do think that he should be given until at least the end of this campaign before we start talking about sacking him. Where I disagree slightly is when you say it's like our last qualifying campaign because we've already lost more matches than we did in the whole of that one and given what we've seen in Croatia and Hungary, I can't see anything but another loss in Slovakia

  9. #9

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    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    Coleman's squad was far worse than the one Giggs has at his disposal, Giggs also didn't have to take over following a tragedy in the manner Coleman did, the two are utterly incomparable
    Utter Bollux

  10. #10

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    Utter Bollux
    Coleman's first competitive squad included Boaz Myhill, Darcy Blake, Simon Church, Steve Morison, Jason Brown and Sam Ricketts.

  11. #11

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    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    FYP
    What a knob!

  12. #12
    Heisenberg
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    New motto for Wales under Giggs' tutelage: Cymru Am Bythalent.

  13. #13

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    The world and Sky are still waiting for the boy Giggs to tell us what went wrong again.

    Maybe he's decided to go.
    If he does it's not too late.

  14. #14

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    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    Coleman's first competitive squad included Boaz Myhill, Darcy Blake, Simon Church, Steve Morison, Jason Brown and Sam Ricketts.
    I’m not talking about the squads. I’m talking about the reaction to Coleman’s appointment on here.

  15. #15

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    I’m not talking about the squads. I’m talking about the reaction to Coleman’s appointment on here.
    Are you saying Coleman didn't take over in tragic circumstances?

  16. #16

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    Of the young players Ampadu, David Brooks and Dan James look the real deal. I am far from convinced that Harry Wilson, Tom Lawrence, Matt Smith etc etc are good enough.

    We don’t have a young Ian Rush coming up through the ranks.

  17. #17

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    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    Are you saying Coleman didn't take over in tragic circumstances?
    Where did I say that? I’m talking about the reaction on here to his appointment by all the usual sheep.

  18. #18

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    Where did I say that? I’m talking about the reaction on here to his appointment by all the usual sheep.
    So why did you respond "utter bollux" to my post if you weren't talking about either of the points I raised?

  19. #19

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    Still waiting.

  20. #20

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    We could easily have lost that under Coleman, especially with Ramsey out and bale in terrible form. I don't think it's time to get rid of Giggs just yet
    Absolutely, you could argue years ago, we would gave been battered by Croatia and Hungary, not losing by one goal and still in the game.

    Giggs is on a hiding to nothing after the Euro success, which to be fair and honest is never likely to be repeated in a few folks lifetimes.

    Anyone think that Bale is half the player he was , and that's the biggy.

  21. #21

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    So Giggs hides in the dressing room rather than explain his useless management.
    He just must be sacked.

  22. #22

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    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    So why did you respond "utter bollux" to my post if you weren't talking about either of the points I raised?
    Because both your points in your reply to my post, had absolutely nothing to do with what I had said about the treatment Coleman got on here when he was first appointed.

  23. #23

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlwaysAway2 View Post
    So Giggs hides in the dressing room rather than explain his useless management.
    He just must be sacked.
    He’s probably doing the important bit first and talking to the players.

  24. #24

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    No Ramsey, Bale struggling for any confidence or form and sadly we are getting punished for making too many mistakes at the back and not taking them at the other end

  25. #25

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    How many times have we lost these type of games over the years? Especially if we have an injury to one of the two or three genuine quality players on the squad. We didn't play well and got punished for it.

    I don't see how Giggs can be blamed for today.

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