Dave Jones?
Look at the players he brought in for the fees aswell. Whitts, McNaughton, Marshall, Chopra, Bothroyd, McCormack etc.
What u think?
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Dave Jones?
Look at the players he brought in for the fees aswell. Whitts, McNaughton, Marshall, Chopra, Bothroyd, McCormack etc.
What u think?
I would rather look at the qualities and experience that the most successful DOFs have (however that is defined) and create a DOF profile from that for our club.
Then recruit against that profile.
There are some attractions to looking a people with a club connection - especially if they understand the culture and the area - but that would be a bonus, not the central requirement.
I’d say he fits with that as he was with the club for a while being our managerOriginally Posted by jon1959
Can’t see us going in this direction for at least another season. Warnock is not going to be up for that type of change in his last season. I’m not sure that the club will be up for it even after that as Tan seems like the type that prefers working with business minded middle men .
Jones is not a bad shout though. However, a lot of the people in this role at PL level are not necessarily former footballers and I’d echo the point previously made about profiling other DOFs.
Dirty Dai Jones, we don't want that surly Scouser back, and I am unanimous in that!
Besides, he'd be hopeless as he'd spend most of his time watching netball games looking for someone to nob.
Dirty Dai Jones, we don't want that surly Scouser back, and I am unanimous in that!
Besides, he'd be hopeless as he'd spend most of his time watching netball games looking for someone to nob.
It took far too long to get rid of Jones.
442 dinosaur.
He might be able to show Warnock how to spend transfer money on a decent player, because Warnock hasn't got a good track record of that with us.
He wouldn’t be in charge of tactics. That's a manager
DJ - no. But we ought to be looking to bring in somebody as back up should results not go right / or to plan for next season if they do.
It would be nice to have a modern thinker
For that to happen you would need to have a modern thinker as a manager. Having a modern thinker with a dinosaur manager simply wouldn't work.
I would say the club as a whole did reasonably well in terms of transfers for some of his tenure. Glenn Loovens is an example of someone who did well for us but was certainly nothing to do with Jones. Ridsdale signed him against Jones' wishes. I wonder if Fowler and Hasselbaink were as much Ridsdale signings as well.
In the same way, Swansea have, until more recently, done very well in the transfer market for a decade or so. I wouldn't suggest that was all down to the manager, at least as much due to the contacts numerous at the club had.
Jones talked Fowler into coming here, after he met him on holiday in Mexico
Warnock convinced Camarasa and Arter to come here during 90 minutes of Bournemouth vs Betis.
Send him upstairs and get a proper manager downstairs
I don't think the skills needed for a dof align well at all with the skill set that Warnock hasSend him upstairs and get a proper manager downstairs
You just convinced me that Jones is not the right person for the job
Doubt it very much if Alan Curtis could be persuaded at his age to come to Cardiff for a second time, but he's the type of person I'd like to see being considered for such a role at Cardiff - it's never going to happen while this manager is here though.
Ok I can see where this is going, and if it really keeps you all happ
SSN are reporting that Jones is interested in managing in Scotland.
There are very few teams in the premier League that have a former manager as director of football. And almost all of them have someone in that role these days.
Clearly we are behind the curve on this. To me it would make sense to try to poach someone who has been working with one of the clubs who have been working really well in this area then at least they know what things to put in place to be successful. Clearly we would need to target someone more junior so the role was a step up, or from a smaller club.
The director of football or sporting director as it now seems to be all encompassing with a number of roles, the biggest being setting out a lasting and permanent vision for the club's playing identity.
I have watched some superb interviews with Stuart Webber of Norwich lately and he seems to be excelling both at Norwich and Huddersfield in this area in recent years.
A clear vision that is sustainable, that involves building a culture that is aligned throughout the club and at Norwich in particular has involved promoting youth players like Max Aaron's.
https://youtu.be/jw5WL5AMDq0
https://youtu.be/6K9UBRvGR0k
https://youtu.be/5CZNpYubs38
https://youtu.be/eCleZxHgcEw
Both Dave Jones and Warnock are big no no's for me
I think you make an important point when you talk about the number of roles such a job encompasses - first of all we need to know what a Director of Football would do!
Earlier in the thread, I suggested Alan Curtis - I was thinking of someone who would play a leading role in player recruitment for the first team and act as a liaison between the club Board and manager when I suggested him, I don't see him as being a good idea really for the sort of job you're talking about.
i think Warnck and Jones are very similar in style and nither would promote young players. They do seem to be able to deal with the more troubled player but if you want a blueprint for the future then we need to look elsewhere?
I think we need to be looking at a coach who can bring so new ideas to the club as Blackwell and Jepson are too similar
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