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    The World's gone mad!

    Ridiculous
    I hate cyclists but this is taking the piss.
    How can he be blamed for that.
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...clist-16536074

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    Re: The World's gone mad!

    Quote Originally Posted by uncle bob View Post
    Ridiculous
    I hate cyclists but this is taking the piss.
    How can he be blamed for that.
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...clist-16536074
    Stupid, don't expect a cyclist to spot and see if you're alright if they hit you in future, they will bugger off in cae you try to claim compensation off them.

    It was her fault anyway what a ridiculous outcome!

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    No other option though.It would take a law change to make that woman culpable.If you are in charge of any vehicle on the road you are responsible for the safety of any pedestrian,including cyclists.

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    the judge said they were equally responsible and that therefore she will only receive half her claim. Expect two things to happen:

    1 - he issues a counter claim as he now has a court order saying she is equally as liable

    2. - the damages set will be trivial

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    Quote Originally Posted by sneggyblubird View Post
    No other option though.It would take a law change to make that woman culpable.If you are in charge of any vehicle on the road you are responsible for the safety of any pedestrian,including cyclists.
    Is that really the law? If I launch myself head first into a bus, it's the driver's fault?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Is that really the law? If I launch myself head first into a bus, it's the driver's fault?
    The onus would be on the bus driver to prove his/her innocence.Once upon a time a driver could only be charged with "driving without due care and attention"if he/she was in an accident whilst using a mobile phone.The law has now been changed.

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    He might have good reason to be aggrieved, I know I would be, but it does send out the right message to other cyclists.

    This might teach these commuter types bombing along in Lycra on public pathways to slow down when they approach pedestrians and animals.

    Just because there is a bicycle sign on the pavement or post (insufficient to both cyclists and pedestrians alike IMO) doesn't mean everyone has to make way for these imbeciles.

    As has been said, pedestrians have right of way and the law would have to change.
    She should not be given any compo here though IMO.
    I do though think that anyone in charge of a cycle should be made aware of their duty which is not obvious to many, especially if they do not drive.
    Make cycling a proficiency course compulsory?

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    That is ****ing ridiculous. I've broken both of my elbows while cycling due to people walking out into the bike lane against the light, or between parked cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    That is ****ing ridiculous. I've broken both of my elbows while cycling due to people walking out into the bike lane against the light, or between parked cars.
    Then you should be sued...maniac

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    Re: The World's gone mad!

    Quote Originally Posted by sneggyblubird View Post
    The onus would be on the bus driver to prove his/her innocence.Once upon a time a driver could only be charged with "driving without due care and attention"if he/she was in an accident whilst using a mobile phone.The law has now been changed.
    Thought it was the pedestrian using the mobile phone?

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    Re: The World's gone mad!

    stopped reading after "i hate cyclists" when some of you don't even know how to drive or what an indicator is used for.

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    Re: The World's gone mad!

    Quote Originally Posted by MacAdder View Post
    He might have good reason to be aggrieved, I know I would be, but it does send out the right message to other cyclists.

    This might teach these commuter types bombing along in Lycra on public pathways to slow down when they approach pedestrians and animals.

    Just because there is a bicycle sign on the pavement or post (insufficient to both cyclists and pedestrians alike IMO) doesn't mean everyone has to make way for these imbeciles.

    As has been said, pedestrians have right of way and the law would have to change.
    She should not be given any compo here though IMO.
    I do though think that anyone in charge of a cycle should be made aware of their duty which is not obvious to many, especially if they do not drive.
    Make cycling a proficiency course compulsory?
    Just because there is a bicycle sign on the pavement or post (insufficient to both cyclists and pedestrians alike IMO) doesn't mean everyone has to make way for these imbeciles.

    Yes, they do that's like saying you can walk down the middle of the road, you can but you should expect a motorist or cyclist to scream get out of the way at you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle bob View Post
    Ridiculous
    I hate cyclists but this is taking the piss.
    How can he be blamed for that.
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...clist-16536074
    Probably because of what the independent witness, another cyclist had said in evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sneggyblubird View Post
    The onus would be on the bus driver to prove his/her innocence.Once upon a time a driver could only be charged with "driving without due care and attention"if he/she was in an accident whilst using a mobile phone.The law has now been changed.
    What was the purpose of Section 3 of The Road Traffic Act 1972 then? Mobile phones hadn't been invented then. In other news, everyone is innocent unless proven guilty beyond all reasonable doubt in a criminal court. In a civil court, it's a balance of probabilities. But no one has to prove they're innocent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Is that really the law? If I launch myself head first into a bus, it's the driver's fault?
    Not sure ,try it and report back .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Monk View Post
    Probably because of what the independent witness, another cyclist had said in evidence.
    Do the judge dismissed what another 3 (THREE), independent pedestrian witnesses said !!!!!!!

    UNBELIEVABLE

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    Re: The World's gone mad!

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebina View Post
    Just because there is a bicycle sign on the pavement or post (insufficient to both cyclists and pedestrians alike IMO) doesn't mean everyone has to make way for these imbeciles.

    Yes, they do that's like saying you can walk down the middle of the road, you can but you should expect a motorist or cyclist to scream get out of the way at you!
    NO they dont. You asshole cyclists rarely slow or stop if needed when off road. Most of you put some lycra on, mayching glasses and think you're Bradley fecking Wiggins with total disregard for any other user. I regularly have arguements with you feckers, and i dont think it will be very long before i give someone a fecking good hiding 😊

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watamistakatomaka View Post
    NO they dont. You asshole cyclists rarely slow or stop if needed when off road. Most of you put some lycra on, mayching glasses and think you're Bradley fecking Wiggins with total disregard for any other user. I regularly have arguements with you feckers, and i dont think it will be very long before i give someone a fecking good hiding 😊
    Can you make it Lardy? Just in case he survives jumping in front of the bus!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Monk View Post
    What was the purpose of Section 3 of The Road Traffic Act 1972 then? Mobile phones hadn't been invented then. In other news, everyone is innocent unless proven guilty beyond all reasonable doubt in a criminal court. In a civil court, it's a balance of probabilities. But no one has to prove they're innocent.
    On reflection I could have worded it better but was in a rush and didn't read the article properly.To my knowledge you cannot be prosecuted for using a mobile phone whilst crossing the road if your a pedestrian.It seems that the guy was trying to avoid her rather than trying to stop,therefore I would agree with this decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sneggyblubird View Post
    On reflection I could have worded it better but was in a rush and didn't read the article properly.To my knowledge you cannot be prosecuted for using a mobile phone whilst crossing the road if your a pedestrian.It seems that the guy was trying to avoid her rather than trying to stop,therefore I would agree with this decision.
    How would he have time to stop, if she just stepped out in front of him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    Do the judge dismissed what another 3 (THREE), independent pedestrian witnesses said !!!!!!!

    UNBELIEVABLE
    The judge didn't dismiss the evidence of the 3 pedestrian witnesses, she dismissed the evidence of the other cyclist who said it was his fault.
    If the law says what she said it says then she has no choice but to say so, she can't make up the law to suit the case, but, and it's a big but, the damage award is still to come and could well be a derisory figure, and the woman will have to pay her own costs. So if the damage award is something like £1 she will be hugely out of pocket herself which will teach her a good lesson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToTaL ITK View Post
    stopped reading after "i hate cyclists" when some of you don't even know how to drive or what an indicator is used for.
    100%

    The abuse cyclists get is ridiculous considering some of the shite and downright dangerous driving you see every day

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    Quote Originally Posted by sneggyblubird View Post
    On reflection I could have worded it better but was in a rush and didn't read the article properly.To my knowledge you cannot be prosecuted for using a mobile phone whilst crossing the road if your a pedestrian.It seems that the guy was trying to avoid her rather than trying to stop,therefore I would agree with this decision.
    You are right, you can't be prosecuted for using a mobile phone when crossing the road. This wasn't a prosecution though. It was a claim for damages. The court has listened to the evidence from both parties, including an independent witness - who was also cycling at the time - who describes the cyclist as riding aggressively. On a balance of probabilities, the judge has ruled that the cyclist was liable for damages. The judge has also acknowledged that the pedestrian is partly to blame. What you have here is a sensationalist headline drawing in the reader and hoping they'll become outraged by the decision.

    I would agree with you, that the Judge has probably (on balance ) made the right decision.

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    On a similar theme, in Norway pedestrians have right of way the instant they step onto a zebra crossing and don't have to wait for traffic to stop. Any car user running over a pedestrian on a zebra crossing gets an immediate, no questions asked, ban.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    On a similar theme, in Norway pedestrians have right of way the instant they step onto a zebra crossing and don't have to wait for traffic to stop. Any car user running over a pedestrian on a zebra crossing gets an immediate, no questions asked, ban.
    Youíd have to be crazy to just step on to a Zebra crossing without looking in any country that uses them.

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    I'm siding with the yoga girl on this one, having been hit by a cyclist on the pavement before I have little sympathy for them and their generally cavalier attitude to the road.

    He also had time to use his horn, shout and swerve in the direction she was returning to.

    Got to love the photos these rags select.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger View Post
    I'm siding with the yoga girl on this one, having been hit by a cyclist on the pavement before I have little sympathy for them and their generally cavalier attitude to the road.

    He also had time to use his horn, shout and swerve in the direction she was returning to.

    Got to love the photos these rags select.
    Fair enough if you got hit on the pavement, but this girls stepped on to the Rd without looking whilst on her mobile phone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    Fair enough if you got hit on the pavement, but this girls stepped on to the Rd without looking whilst on her mobile phone.
    We should start a new thread on obscure or little known traffic regs.Without checking pedestrians have right of way on the road regardless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sneggyblubird View Post
    We should start a new thread on obscure or little known traffic regs.Without checking pedestrians have right of way on the road regardless.
    Are we singing from the same hymn sheet here.?
    Obviously if a pedestrian is on a road, then they are no 1 priority, and have right of way, but if they step off a pavement, in front of a moving vehicle, thatís travelling at a legal speed, without looking, or distracted by looking at a mob phone, or listening to headphones, then they surely take the blame, if they get hit by said vehicle?
    Last edited by William Treseder; 19-06-19 at 15:11. Reason: Grammar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    On a similar theme, in Norway pedestrians have right of way the instant they step onto a zebra crossing and don't have to wait for traffic to stop. Any car user running over a pedestrian on a zebra crossing gets an immediate, no questions asked, ban.
    What annoys me is when cyclists use pedestrian crossings. You're looking in the immediate vicinity of the crossing if a pedestrian is approaching and if so, of course, you stop. But you're not likely to notice a cyclist approaching at a lick so may not stop. I've no doubt the car driver would be blamed though.

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