Reply With QuoteThat article doesn't quote any sources or references. It's hardly robust.Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
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Not quite sure what the issue is here. If the point is that national football associations should pay women the same as men then yeah, some obvious logic in that. But what they get paid by their clubs is surely a matter of market forces?
And what is meant by the "equal play" bit?
That article doesn't quote any sources or references. It's hardly robust.
Like I said it’s being discussed because obviously it’s related and part of the wider issue. But the equal pay equal play campaign is relating to the wages of the USWNT and is related to the ongoing court case.
They're saying they play the same game, so they want to be paid the same money. As Croesy is saying, it is a bit different in the states, as the USWNT seems to generate more money than the USMNT.
So suddenly Forbes are unreliable cos they don't agree with your opinion
No, I've found it. That number relates to the Women's World Cup in 2011. Let's use 8 years old data and not question it.So suddenly Forbes are unreliable cos they don't agree with your opinion
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/questio...world-cup-win/
Also, any comment on this?
Surely basing the whole argument on income generated isn’t the point anyway, the women’s game given chance to grow the same way the men’s game has could generate a lot more money and paying the players more could help attract more people to the game and grow the women’s game too.
What’s wrong with that?
FIFA’s record finances reignites World Cup pay parity debate
U.S. coach Jill Ellis, who is leading her team’s title defense in France, said she is disappointed with the financial rewards.
“You want to make sure there is a fair apportionment of winnings going out,” Ellis said.
Most upsetting to critics is the fact that the financial gulf appears to be growing. FIFA has doubled the overall prize money fund to $30 million since the last Women’s World Cup in Canada in 2015. But that total amount is less than the $40 million increase that men’s World Cup prize money will get in 2022 — for a total of $440 million in prize money.
https://www.apnews.com/e05ab72c3cb04a1485094cc923162e99
Men. Women.The Wall Street Journal reports that from 2016 to 2018, U.S. women's games generated about $50.8 million in revenue, compared with $49.9 million for men's games.
Games played 20. 20
Pay per win. $17,625. $1,359
Pay per loss. $5000. 0
Selected for WC. $68,000. $15,000
WC bonus. $9mill. $2mill.
Is that how you would run a business by paying wages of 3.5 x your turnover?
Yes we've discussed this on the last page that it is part of the discussion because percentage wise men get more of the income generated compared to the women (14% to 7% I think)
But the equal pay equal play debate is to do with the wages paid to the US players.
Instead of just googling and posting links that you think back you up why not try and learn about a subject before having such a staunch opinion on it?
Isn't that what men's football teams do?
Comparing the growth of a worldwide sport to a normal business is pretty disingenuous isn't it? Look at the worldwide audience for this world cup, there's potential there and if people are interested in making money growing the game could make millions.
Wales-Bales, are you there? Hello?
No.
They want more prize money .. a lot more!
That's not what the campaign is about though, it's about wanting equald wages because they play the same amount of games and bring in more revenue. Do you think that's fair?
The US coach said they want more prize money!
Let's say it did only relate to the win bonus, Fifa couldn't possibly afford to increase the prize money and help grow the women's game and make it self suffficient after 10s of years of it being held back.
Would it make sense for the governing body of world football to increase prize money and investment into the womens' game after it's proven to be quite popular?Infantino acknowledged that FIFA currently has vast cash reserves, more than $2.7 billion: “We don’t need all this money in the Swiss banks,” he said. “The Swiss banks have enough money.”
And they do because the women don't get anywhere near the same percentage of revenue generated that the men do.
But the equal pay campaign has been going on for over a year and is based on the wages of the USWNT. why don't you just answer the question?
Wales-bales why are you against the prize money for the women's world cup being increased?
Because he can't.
FIFA should be disbanded cos they are corrupt, and men's and women's football should be run separately so that they can both maximise their own potential.
Weird tangent to go on
Fair play, that made me laugh.
Just to reiterrate even though prize money was mentioned after they won the world cup the real issue is the wages paid to both of the US teams:
I'll ask again is this fair?Breaking...statement from spokesperson for @USWNT players involved in equal pay lawsuit v @ussoccer: “At this moment of tremendous pride for America, the sad equation remains all too clear, and Americans won’t stand for it anymore These athletes generate more revenue and garner higher tv ratings but get paid less simply because they are women. It is time for the Federation to correct this disparity once and for all.
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