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    Re: Cricket World cup

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    The South West has incredible support for cricket. Look at the players Somerset produce and the gates Somerset and Glos get for t20s. Frankly, its an absolute joke they haven't got one of the City based teams in the absolute farce that is the 100. People are attached to their country and their club/county. If you force people to support regions (look at welsh rugby) it probably won't work. This isn't the best analogy I've ever seen. I love cricket, and I am probably going to boycott the 100 because I'm so against it. After all, England have just won the world cup, and we aren't even going to play any 50 over cricket domestically! Seriously, the ECB are a disgrace at times.
    Are people that attached to the counties. I mean in Wales the county attendances are poor. For all the talk on here for wanting to support Wales in Cricket, people do not support Wales in Cricket, or Glamorgan, or their local clubs.

    The franchise system works well in Australia and in Indian systems, and i do not think it will hurt to have a look at it in this country.

    Im a traditional cricket fan, i support Glamorgan I attend matches, i am not a fan of the 100. However i do feel that something has to be done to attract new fans to the game, especially in Wales.

  2. #2

    Re: Cricket World cup

    Quote Originally Posted by qccfc View Post
    Are people that attached to the counties. I mean in Wales the county attendances are poor. For all the talk on here for wanting to support Wales in Cricket, people do not support Wales in Cricket, or Glamorgan, or their local clubs.

    The franchise system works well in Australia and in Indian systems, and i do not think it will hurt to have a look at it in this country.

    Im a traditional cricket fan, i support Glamorgan I attend matches, i am not a fan of the 100. However i do feel that something has to be done to attract new fans to the game, especially in Wales.
    Yes, I am, anyway! I love county cricket. They need to get the game on freeview. While cricket is behind a paywall, nobody is going to care. You can't take the Sky money and then whine that nobody can see your game. God, I hate the ECB. Colin Graves and Giles Clarke, wouldn't wish them on the Jacks .

    I am not a fan of the City based franchise but I get it. I don't think it will work though, they've alienated the core cricket fans by telling them, they don't matter, the game isn't for them etc. Also, saying its to get the best players in the world over, except that they won't now be playing because it's at the same time as our test match summer. It's already a point of ridicule in the press and on social media.

    Australia has had a state system for as long as anyone can remember and India is absolutely cricket mad, so they could all play in tutus and tiaras and people would still come.

  3. #3

    Re: Cricket World cup

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    Yes, I am, anyway! I love county cricket. They need to get the game on freeview. While cricket is behind a paywall, nobody is going to care. You can't take the Sky money and then whine that nobody can see your game. God, I hate the ECB. Colin Graves and Giles Clarke, wouldn't wish them on the Jacks .

    I am not a fan of the City based franchise but I get it. I don't think it will work though, they've alienated the core cricket fans by telling them, they don't matter, the game isn't for them etc. Also, saying its to get the best players in the world over, except that they won't now be playing because it's at the same time as our test match summer. It's already a point of ridicule in the press and on social media.

    Australia has had a state system for as long as anyone can remember and India is absolutely cricket mad, so they could all play in tutus and tiaras and people would still come.
    I appreciate there are core cricket fans. However the game, in this area is in a downwards spiral. I dont think the ECB can sit back and let the game drift.

    The money over access to tv games is a difficult one. The 100 is going to be on free to air tv.

    What would we rather paid professional coaches working with children, or the ability to watch the game on tv.

  4. #4

    Re: Cricket World cup

    Quote Originally Posted by qccfc View Post
    I appreciate there are core cricket fans. However the game, in this area is in a downwards spiral. I dont think the ECB can sit back and let the game drift.

    The money over access to tv games is a difficult one. The 100 is going to be on free to air tv.

    What would we rather paid professional coaches working with children, or the ability to watch the game on tv.
    Some games are going to be on FTA TV.

    They ballsed up in 05. They should have kept it on c4 and grown the game after the hype. We might not even need the Sky money had they done it well. Ancient history now but they've got to get England on TV. Whether that's all ODIs/t20s or just the lesser sides playing England on TV, with the Ashes behind a paywall I don't know. It's an incredibly difficult decision. People don't get Sky to watch the ODIs though, in my belief, they're buying it to watch the tests. Perhaps C4 and Sky could split the revenue or something when they show games (like I presume they did for the WCF).

  5. #5

    Re: Cricket World cup

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    Some games are going to be on FTA TV.

    They ballsed up in 05. They should have kept it on c4 and grown the game after the hype. We might not even need the Sky money had they done it well. Ancient history now but they've got to get England on TV. Whether that's all ODIs/t20s or just the lesser sides playing England on TV, with the Ashes behind a paywall I don't know. It's an incredibly difficult decision. People don't get Sky to watch the ODIs though, in my belief, they're buying it to watch the tests. Perhaps C4 and Sky could split the revenue or something when they show games (like I presume they did for the WCF).
    With regards to the 100 and the city based system it will go one of 2 ways, it will either be a success or it will fail. Either way we will get a clear message from fans of cricket in this country, and whether it will attract new fans to the games. If it fails you still have the county system running, so no harm will be done.

    With regards to the tv money, i accept it is an extremely difficult decision. The money available for local clubs and the initiatives available for clubs is much greater than it was in 2005. However children in schools have little or no knowledge of cricket and cricketers. That being said Cardiff Cricket club are currently teaching 100 children aged 5-8 through the all stars system on a Friday night and Saturday morning, and thats just 1 club alone, many others in the region host smaller schemes.

  6. #6

    Re: Cricket World cup

    Quote Originally Posted by qccfc View Post
    With regards to the 100 and the city based system it will go one of 2 ways, it will either be a success or it will fail. Either way we will get a clear message from fans of cricket in this country, and whether it will attract new fans to the games. If it fails you still have the county system running, so no harm will be done.

    With regards to the tv money, i accept it is an extremely difficult decision. The money available for local clubs and the initiatives available for clubs is much greater than it was in 2005. However children in schools have little or no knowledge of cricket and cricketers. That being said Cardiff Cricket club are currently teaching 100 children aged 5-8 through the all stars system on a Friday night and Saturday morning, and thats just 1 club alone, many others in the region host smaller schemes.
    The harm is, they've devalued the 50 over competition, which people still go to. How have we just won a world cup and then not even bothering with the 50 over game back home? It is lunacy.

  7. #7

    Re: Cricket World cup

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    The harm is, they've devalued the 50 over competition, which people still go to. How have we just won a world cup and then not even bothering with the 50 over game back home? It is lunacy.
    The 50 over format has been constantly changing, from 40 to 50, from the pro40 to the one day cup to the Sunday League. The international game will remain the same, attendances for the one day cup for Glamorgan were not great.

    The Counties want shorter format games. T20 is where they make their money, and without that money they are dependent on ECB funding, and that funding comes from SKY.

    We need to answer the question of whether 9 big city based teams will bring in the crowds better than the 16 counties. Until we try that the question will remain and hang over the game.

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