Knife crime in Cardiff , tonight BBC Wales

[goats]

What knife crime? i know that their have been some isolated incidents but on the whole Cardiff is a very safe place to live. The problems we are seeing are usually drug related and it's the poor attacking the poor, London certainly has a problem and the reaction has been slow by the authorities, add to that a Tory government cutting the **** out of resources, and the fact that these kids are poor and many of them black, if they were white and middle class there'd be absolute outrage and plenty of political posturing...but they're not...

It reminds me of the gang violence that used to plague LA and New York, the police just basicallly let them wipe each other out

[NYCBlue]

It reminds me of the gang violence that used to plague LA and New York, the police just basicallly let them wipe each other out

Where did you read that?

[goats]

Where did you read that?

I didn’t, I watched lots of documentaries back then showing black leaders saying it

[goats]

I didn’t, I watched lots of documentaries back then showing black leaders saying it

And also reformed gang members saying no one ever did anything for the areas they lived in such as Compton, south central etc...just full of booze and gun stores, police didn’t really investigate shootings just labelled it as gang and did nothing.....not that they could do much in my opinion, it was more a government and social situ that needed resolving. A crazy waste of life that many old gang members now realise and are educating the young in those areas.....

[RonnieBird]

Where did you read that?

I don't know about New York, but a lot of people say that's what the LAPD 's unofficial policy was at one time. Do you recall the questioning of Mark Ferman ( is that the spelling ) about the phrases " N v. N" and " No humans Involved " ?

In fairness we must note that they denied it , but I think there's something in it.

[light up the darkness]

It reminds me of the gang violence that used to plague LA and New York, the police just basicallly let them wipe each other out

If memory serves one of the key developments which reduced gang related killings was the introduction of laws which basically made every gang member equally guilty of murder even though they may not have been present. Membership of the gang was enough to convict them