Knife crime in Cardiff , tonight BBC Wales

[Tuerto]

God knows what the answer to this is , armed police on every street corner , I used to enjoy going to the grangetown carnival but I hear that area of town is well dodgy at night

What knife crime? i know that their have been some isolated incidents but on the whole Cardiff is a very safe place to live. The problems we are seeing are usually drug related and it's the poor attacking the poor, London certainly has a problem and the reaction has been slow by the authorities, add to that a Tory government cutting the **** out of resources, and the fact that these kids are poor and many of them black, if they were white and middle class there'd be absolute outrage and plenty of political posturing...but they're not...

[goats]

What knife crime? i know that their have been some isolated incidents but on the whole Cardiff is a very safe place to live. The problems we are seeing are usually drug related and it's the poor attacking the poor, London certainly has a problem and the reaction has been slow by the authorities, add to that a Tory government cutting the **** out of resources, and the fact that these kids are poor and many of them black, if they were white and middle class there'd be absolute outrage and plenty of political posturing...but they're not...

It reminds me of the gang violence that used to plague LA and New York, the police just basicallly let them wipe each other out

[NYCBlue]

It reminds me of the gang violence that used to plague LA and New York, the police just basicallly let them wipe each other out

Where did you read that?

[goats]

Where did you read that?

I didn’t, I watched lots of documentaries back then showing black leaders saying it

[goats]

I didn’t, I watched lots of documentaries back then showing black leaders saying it

And also reformed gang members saying no one ever did anything for the areas they lived in such as Compton, south central etc...just full of booze and gun stores, police didn’t really investigate shootings just labelled it as gang and did nothing.....not that they could do much in my opinion, it was more a government and social situ that needed resolving. A crazy waste of life that many old gang members now realise and are educating the young in those areas.....

[RonnieBird]

Where did you read that?

I don't know about New York, but a lot of people say that's what the LAPD 's unofficial policy was at one time. Do you recall the questioning of Mark Ferman ( is that the spelling ) about the phrases " N v. N" and " No humans Involved " ?

In fairness we must note that they denied it , but I think there's something in it.

[light up the darkness]

It reminds me of the gang violence that used to plague LA and New York, the police just basicallly let them wipe each other out

If memory serves one of the key developments which reduced gang related killings was the introduction of laws which basically made every gang member equally guilty of murder even though they may not have been present. Membership of the gang was enough to convict them

[Harry Paget Flashman]

What knife crime? i know that their have been some isolated incidents but on the whole Cardiff is a very safe place to live. The problems we are seeing are usually drug related and it's the poor attacking the poor, London certainly has a problem and the reaction has been slow by the authorities, add to that a Tory government cutting the **** out of resources, and the fact that these kids are poor and many of them black, if they were white and middle class there'd be absolute outrage and plenty of political posturing...but they're not...

I was with some city centre police officers last week with work and they were telling me there is a growing knife problem in the city. I couldn't believe it but he said there are several knives a week being taken from mainly gangs of boys either by police or by DS in pubs.

As in most places he said its more of a gang on gang thing rather than random people just going out stabbing each other.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

What knife crime? i know that their have been some isolated incidents but on the whole Cardiff is a very safe place to live. The problems we are seeing are usually drug related and it's the poor attacking the poor, London certainly has a problem and the reaction has been slow by the authorities, add to that a Tory government cutting the **** out of resources, and the fact that these kids are poor and many of them black, if they were white and middle class there'd be absolute outrage and plenty of political posturing...but they're not...

Cracked it on one - or two. They're black so it's not their fault, it's the fault of the Tories..

[Tuerto]

Cracked it on one - or two. They're black so it's not their fault, it's the fault of the Tories..

You don't see middle class kids killing eachover. I wonder why?

[goats]

What knife crime? i know that their have been some isolated incidents but on the whole Cardiff is a very safe place to live. The problems we are seeing are usually drug related and it's the poor attacking the poor, London certainly has a problem and the reaction has been slow by the authorities, add to that a Tory government cutting the **** out of resources, and the fact that these kids are poor and many of them black, if they were white and middle class there'd be absolute outrage and plenty of political posturing...but they're not...

There is a bit, guy stabbed to death in g town last summer, another in llanedyern in the day, a few in canton and roath....all drug gang related mind