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  1. #1

    Re: Another mass shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by RonnieBird View Post
    I don't think that's necessary .
    Spacebar, full stop

  2. #2

    Re: Another mass shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    Conversely, lots and lots of Americans may strongly disagree with you too.
    Can confirm that there are lots and lots and lots and lots of people in the USA. I am a stupid person though so you might want to check with someone else.

  3. #3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    Can confirm that there are lots and lots and lots and lots of people in the USA. I am a stupid person though so you might want to check with someone else.
    As you may have gathered, such a phrase is not one I would use myself

  4. #4

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    Conversely, lots and lots of Americans may strongly disagree with you too.
    67% favour stricter gun laws apparently: https://www.voanews.com/usa/ap-norc-...icter-gun-laws

  5. #5

    Re: Another mass shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by RonnieBird View Post
    How can you be exasperated about something you have no right or ability to change ?
    You should look up what the word means.

  6. #6

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    This thread has given me a new respect for teachers who work with difficult teenagers.

  7. #7

    Re: Another mass shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by RonnieBird View Post
    This thread has given me a new respect for teachers who work with difficult teenagers.
    What about Teenagers who work with difficult teachers?

  8. #8

    Re: Another mass shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by RonnieBird View Post
    This thread has given me a new respect for teachers who work with difficult teenagers.
    I have never witnessed such an astonishingly clear and pronounced example of the Dunning-Kruger effect in action as I have when reading your posts.

  9. #9

    Re: Another mass shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Freitag 4.17 View Post
    I have never witnessed such an astonishingly clear and pronounced example of the Dunning-Kruger effect in action as I have when reading your posts.
    Thank you, I'm very flattered !

    Of course, since you have absolutely no idea about me , it's a brave diagnosis. Did you really think that or were you just trying to give the impression that you're a very learned and perceptive individual ?
    I think there's a name for that too actually.

  10. #10

    Re: Another mass shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by RonnieBird View Post
    Thank you, I'm very flattered !

    Of course, since you have absolutely no idea about me , it's a brave diagnosis. Did you really think that or were you just trying to give the impression that you're a very learned and perceptive individual ?
    I think there's a name for that too actually.
    Want more of a diagnosis? I reckon you've lived a very unfulfilling and mostly lonely life - and you can't put your finger on why..

  11. #11

    Re: Another mass shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Freitag 4.17 View Post
    Want more of a diagnosis? I reckon you've lived a very unfulfilling and mostly lonely life - and you can't put your finger on why..


    No, not at all. I've been lucky enough, by the grace of God, to be quite successful in three different professions and I'm consequently quite comfortable. I've also been on TV and radio, and written a few things, met two prime ministers and two presidents as well as inumerable high profile people. I've got eleven grandchildren and lots of stuff.
    I've been very fortunate.
    Of course, your answer to all this will be that I'm making it up. I'm not in fact, but you probably don't think any of that is possible or that anyone like that would be speaking to you. Well, that's your problem, not mine, but I do regret it for your sake . You see, I don't tell lies, just as I wasn't telling lies about the half witted WB conspiracy theory .

    I'll tell you what is very nasty and unpleasant on your part though. You honestly believe that you're speaking to someone of no consequence and who is suffering the effects of a dissapointing life, but you want to rub their nose in that, which is really quite wicked and spiteful.
    Unfortunately there are many people like you who kill the dreams and ambitions of youngsters by telling them they're ordinary, and it's a thing I despise.
    I'll take the opportunity, therefore , to advise any youngsters reading this to recognise characters like you who will tell them that they must live unexceptional lives in predetermined circumstances and ignore their attempts to limit to you - they're just jealous and scared that you'll show them up for the nonentities they are.

    I think you're a nasty little bugger actually, but I'm afraid you happened to guessed wrong, and on this occasion you'll have to take your put down pie and eat it yourself.

  12. #12

    Re: Another mass shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Freitag 4.17 View Post
    Want more of a diagnosis? I reckon you've lived a very unfulfilling and mostly lonely life - and you can't put your finger on why..
    Does the name Walter Mitty suddenly come to mind?

  13. #13

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    You can always tell a liar as they say "I don't tell lies".

  14. #14

    Re: Another mass shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by RonnieBird View Post
    All quite right. Thing is that even if we think strict gun laws would achieve anything in terms of reducing gun crime, ( which I don't think it would in a huge country with so many guns already out there), is that a price worth paying ?
    Personally I'd say it's not, and I don't think that some of the people here can understand that lots and lots of Americans would strongly agree with me on that.
    It's a very very different country to the UK now, and the gap is getting wider all the time. These people tend to believe in God, distrust politicians and the state, and will fiercely defend their own right to decide what they say and whether they want to own a gun. That's very at odds with the way we carry on these days and the somewhat docile and subservient stance our own youngsters have.
    I don't think they can imagine why anyone doesn't want the state, or them , to step in and protect them from themselves.

    I think that's very sad because we used to have a great country which produced dynamic individuals, but it's probably gone too far now and there's not much point in denying it.
    People who believe in God:
    Dynamic
    Self determining

    People who don't believe in God
    Subservient
    Docile

    That's certainly one way to look at it!!

    First you got angry at all the 'youngsters' for questioning American gun policy. Now you are belittling the same people for being 'subservient and docile' when you are clearly quite chuffed at being a puppet controlled by the invisible and undetectable flying spaghetti monster. You are just a big bag of contradictions.

  15. #15

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    I am not a psychologist but it seems to me that several posters on this thread urgently need counselling.

  16. #16

    Re: Another mass shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    People who believe in God:
    Dynamic
    Self determining

    People who don't believe in God
    Subservient
    Docile

    That's certainly one way to look at it!!

    First you got angry at all the 'youngsters' for questioning American gun policy. Now you are belittling the same people for being 'subservient and docile' when you are clearly quite chuffed at being a puppet controlled by the invisible and undetectable flying spaghetti monster. You are just a big bag of contradictions.


    That's all a bit mixed up really Eric. It's not quite what I was saying of course, but leaving that aside I wonder why you pick up on the matter of religion. I'm not going to go too far into a debate about that, but I think you should question your own very strong reaction when God was mentioned.

  17. #17

    Re: Another mass shooting

    There are too many abortions - ban abortions
    There is a drug problem - ban drugs
    Gay marriage is a sin - ban gay marriage

    Inordinate amount of people get shot - banning things doesn’t work

    America currently has a white supremacy problem and a gun problem but people actually believe it’s being caused by mental illness and video games.

  18. #18

    Re: Another mass shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by rudy gestede View Post
    There are too many abortions - ban abortions
    There is a drug problem - ban drugs
    Gay marriage is a sin - ban gay marriage

    Inordinate amount of people get shot - banning things doesn’t work

    America currently has a white supremacy problem and a gun problem but people actually believe it’s being caused by mental illness and video games.
    Well how do you account for the number of shootings in the US when such things are rarer in comparable countries that ban guns from being sold to the public???
    Are the inordinate numbers concerned comparable either side of the pond? I think not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    Well how do you account for the number of shootings in the US when such things are rarer in comparable countries that ban guns from being sold to the public???
    Are the inordinate numbers concerned comparable either side of the pond? I think not.
    I don't think that was his opinion, just he was highlighting the illogical reasoning in the American right

  20. #20

    Re: Another mass shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    Well how do you account for the number of shootings in the US when such things are rarer in comparable countries that ban guns from being sold to the public???
    Are the inordinate numbers concerned comparable either side of the pond? I think not.
    I think rudy is making a different point. That the US is quick to ban everything, except guns.

  21. #21

    Re: Another mass shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by RonnieBird View Post
    That's all a bit mixed up really Eric. It's not quite what I was saying of course, but leaving that aside I wonder why you pick up on the matter of religion. I'm not going to go too far into a debate about that, but I think you should question your own very strong reaction when God was mentioned.
    Oh I wouldn't want to twist your words Ronnie.

    Thing is that even if we think strict gun laws would achieve anything in terms of reducing gun crime, ( which I don't think it would in a huge country with so many guns already out there), is that a price worth paying ? Personally I'd say it's not
    So to clarify, this is your position:

    Even if gun control measures would reduce gun crime you still don't think it is a price worth paying?

  22. #22

    Re: Another mass shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    Oh I wouldn't want to twist your words Ronnie.



    So to clarify, this is your position:

    Even if gun control measures would reduce gun crime you still don't think it is a price worth paying?

    No I don't Eric. It's a fundamental human right to own property and defend yourself, and until someone breaks the law I reject the suggestion that they should be punished for the potential or actual crimes of others.
    Pre emptive legislation is the stuff of an Orwellian nightmare, and has no place whatever in a free country.

  23. #23
    Heisenberg
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    Re: Another mass shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by RonnieBird View Post
    No I don't Eric. It's a fundamental human right to own property and defend yourself, and until someone breaks the law I reject the suggestion that they should be punished for the potential or actual crimes of others.
    Pre emptive legislation is the stuff of an Orwellian nightmare, and has no place whatever in a free country.
    Slaves were once classed as property too (in the nation that we're discussing). I suppose you would have been against the emancipation proclamation too?

  24. #24

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    Slaves were once classed as property too (in the nation that we're discussing). I suppose you would have been against the emancipation proclamation too?
    Why would you suppose that then ?

    Slavery is hardly unique to the USA and slaves have always been those who were unable to defend themselves

  25. #25

    Re: Another mass shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by RonnieBird View Post
    No I don't Eric. It's a fundamental human right to own property and defend yourself, and until someone breaks the law I reject the suggestion that they should be punished for the potential or actual crimes of others.
    Pre emptive legislation is the stuff of an Orwellian nightmare, and has no place whatever in a free country.
    Who or what determines such human rights?

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