Jeffrey Has Gone

[jon1959]

You see, when documents like this are available so freely, ( as is lots of other stuff from Al Gore's investments in fossil fuels and the Nazi origins of the EU), it's baffling that so many people can reject the possibility that the general public is routinely and deliberately misinformed.

My only reservation about posting that here is that some of the fluoride generation will use the email address to sign up as "stalwarts".

What amazes me is the way you keep repeating this crap - liberally dosed with other alt-right lies and distortions, rank conspiracy theories, Trump-love and edited highlights from Infowars, vintage Breitbart and (for Light relief) Fox & Friends. You then have the gall to lambast and abuse other posters who have their heads screwed on. You don't even do it with humour (unlike Organ who occupies a similar place to you with his world-view - but he has more than a few saving graces). And then you adopt the victim role and whine about gangs of 'children' bullying you on a football messageboard when the one who needs to grow up (and think critically for once) is you. The plans for a Nazi Europe under Hitler has no similarity with the European Union of today, and were not the source idea for it.

And wtf is a 'fluoride generation'? If there's any problem with what's in the water I suspect it is in Anglia East!

[Wales-Bales]

* Alt-right lies and distortions

* Rank conspiracy theories

* Trump-love

* Edited highlights from Infowars

* Vintage Breitbart

* Fox & Friends

You forgot racist!

If you want to be a leftist stooge, then you must stick to the talking points

[RonnieBird]

What amazes me is the way you keep repeating this crap - liberally dosed with other alt-right lies and distortions, rank conspiracy theories, Trump-love and edited highlights from Infowars, vintage Breitbart and (for Light relief) Fox & Friends. You then have the gall to lambast and abuse other posters who have their heads screwed on. You don't even do it with humour (unlike Organ who occupies a similar place to you with his world-view - but he has more than a few saving graces). And then you adopt the victim role and whine about gangs of 'children' bullying you on a football messageboard when the one who needs to grow up (and think critically for once) is you. The plans for a Nazi Europe under Hitler has no similarity with the European Union of today, and were not the source idea for it.

And wtf is a 'fluoride generation'? If there's any problem with what's in the water I suspect it is in Anglia East!

You have absolutely no idea what my world view is, and I'm sure you wouldn't understand it if you did.
What do I think about Aristotle or Thales ? Which historical events do I regard as the causes of the French Revolution ? What are the experiences and influences which formed my view of war , and what is that view ?

[Wales-Bales]

You have absolutely no idea what my world view is, and I'm sure you wouldn't understand it if you did. What do I think about Aristotle or Thales ? Which historical events do I regard as the causes of the French Revolution ? What are the experiences and influences which formed my view of war , and what is that view ?

You may even have a perfectly honest view of the world, but unfortunately it doesn't chime with leftist rhetoric, so this view must be destroyed at all costs. Lardy & Cyril have proved beyond doubt that the truth doesn't matter to the left. It's all make-believe in the world of fairytales that they inhabit. They still think that Trump Russia Collusion is an actual thing, and it is going to bring down the current President of the USA. Just imagine how nuts you would have to be to believe that crock of shyte

[RonnieBird]

You may even have a perfectly honest view of the world, but unfortunately it doesn't chime with leftist rhetoric, so this view must be destroyed at all costs. Lardy & Cyril have proved beyond doubt that the truth doesn't matter to the left. It's all make-believe in the world of fairytales that they inhabit. They still think that Trump Russia Collusion is an actual thing, and it is going to bring down the current President of the USA. Just imagine how nuts you would have to be to believe that crock of shyte

Although they're not actually being dishonest . As I said earlier, they've received a subliminal message that Trump is bad and they're subliminally rewarded by being told they're intelligent for thinking that by means of people who are put up as highly intelligent by the media reinforcing the idea 24/7.

There's nothing really that can be done to re introduce them to logic or reason, so the most helpful thing is to expose them in the hope that those who haven't already been "bitten" might escape their fate.
It's much much harder to brainwash a subject who's aware of what you're doing, and the best we can hope for is that uncommitted individuals will ask themselves , " why are they telling me that ?" . After that , it's up to them to decide on the issues.

[Wales-Bales]

Although they're not actually being dishonest . As I said earlier, they've received a subliminal message that Trump is bad and they're subliminally rewarded by being told they're intelligent for thinking that by means of people who are put up as highly intelligent by the media reinforcing the idea 24/7.

There's nothing really that can be done to re introduce them to logic or reason, so the most helpful thing is to expose them in the hope that those who haven't already been "bitten" might escape their fate.
It's much much harder to brainwash a subject who's aware of what you're doing, and the best we can hope for is that uncommitted individuals will ask themselves , " why are they telling me that ?" . After that , it's up to them to decide on the issues.

I presented them with a mountain of evidence, so it took a substantial amount of effort on their part to disregard it. Or maybe they just enjoy living in a leftist world of continual manufactured chaos, where there is always something going wrong and people to be blamed

[the other bob wilson]

Although they're not actually being dishonest . As I said earlier, they've received a subliminal message that Trump is bad and they're subliminally rewarded by being told they're intelligent for thinking that by means of people who are put up as highly intelligent by the media reinforcing the idea 24/7.

There's nothing really that can be done to re introduce them to logic or reason, so the most helpful thing is to expose them in the hope that those who haven't already been "bitten" might escape their fate.
It's much much harder to brainwash a subject who's aware of what you're doing, and the best we can hope for is that uncommitted individuals will ask themselves , " why are they telling me that ?" . After that , it's up to them to decide on the issues.

I learned from the way you imperiously swatted away what I thought was a pertinent question I had asked yesterday with an answer which doesn't really stand up to any close examination (I note gluey has mastered this technique as well), but I know full well that I could never hope to make it into the I know everything about everything club, so I'm going to need more guidance from you I'm afraid.

If you know that a subliminal message has been sent to us. then to be able to avoid falling prey to it, you must know what it said and when it was sent, so could you let us have that information please so that we can try to regain our capacity for "independent thinking"?

Speaking for myself, I've despised Donald Trump for thirty years or more, so I assume I received the subliminal message sometime in the mid to late eighties? Hang on though, why would the forces you are so nobly fighting on our behalf be sending out such a message about Donald Trump then? Unless, of course, they knew he was going to be President in thirty years time.

I've got to say mind, that's pretty impressive if they did isn't it - you don't think our subliminal voices might be worth listening to after all do you?

[Wales-Bales]

If you know that a subliminal message has been sent to us. then to be able to avoid falling prey to it, you must know what it said and when it was sent, so could you let us have that information please so that we can try to regain our capacity for "independent thinking"?

Is this a cry for help, Bob?

[RonnieBird]

[RonnieBird]

I learned from the way you imperiously swatted away what I thought was a pertinent question I had asked yesterday with an answer which doesn't really stand up to any close examination (I note gluey has mastered this technique as well), but I know full well that I could never hope to make it into the I know everything about everything club, so I'm going to need more guidance from you I'm afraid.

If you know that a subliminal message has been sent to us. then to be able to avoid falling prey to it, you must know what it said and when it was sent, so could you let us have that information please so that we can try to regain our capacity for "independent thinking"?

Speaking for myself, I've despised Donald Trump for thirty years or more, so I assume I received the subliminal message sometime in the mid to late eighties? Hang on though, why would the forces you are so nobly fighting on our behalf be sending out such a message about Donald Trump then? Unless, of course, they knew he was going to be President in thirty years time.

I've got to say mind, that's pretty impressive if they did isn't it - you don't think our subliminal voices might be worth listening to after all do you?

This requires a more detailed answer than I've got the time or willpower for right now. I'll try and post something later about brainwashing techniques, but in the mean time there are a couple of things you seem to have misunderstood.

Those who have used these techniques are certainly neither noble nor on your side. Also, it pretty obviously doesn't mean that subliminal messages are the sole source of a particular opinion such as your apparent personal dislike of Donald Trump. I'd say that 30 years ago few people would have expected him to have opposed those who follow a sinister agenda.

It's also possible for individuals to willingly follow this sinister agenda, but that requires a hatred of humanity which I'm sure not many people really have.

Of course it's hardly as simple as one single subliminal message during a cornflakes advert or something. It involves a long process which I mentioned briefly elsewhere on these threads.
Once someone is effected it's too late to change in most cases, as we learned in the 1950's with pow's from the Korean War who'd been repatriated, so some people can't "avoid falling prey" to it unfortunately.

[the other bob wilson]

This requires a more detailed answer than I've got the time or willpower for right now. I'll try and post something later about brainwashing techniques, but in the mean time there are a couple of things you seem to have misunderstood.

Those who have used these techniques are certainly neither noble nor on your side. Also, it pretty obviously doesn't mean that subliminal messages are the sole source of a particular opinion such as your apparent personal dislike of Donald Trump. I'd say that 30 years ago few people would have expected him to have opposed those who follow a sinister agenda.

It's also possible for individuals to willingly follow this sinister agenda, but that requires a hatred of humanity which I'm sure not many people really have.

Of course it's hardly as simple as one single subliminal message during a cornflakes advert or something. It involves a long process which I mentioned briefly elsewhere on these threads.
Once someone is effected it's too late to change in most cases, as we learned in the 1950's with pow's from the Korean War who'd been repatriated, so some people can't "avoid falling prey" to it unfortunately.

Nope, I need more help here because, I'm sorry, but that just comes across, like so many of your messages do to this particular sheep, as a load of words without anything of note actually being said.

As for noble and on my side, you seem unable to take a compliment because I was talking about you - although I may have been being sarcastic at the time.

I'll try again, what did the subliminal message that I asked about say and when did it occur? You must know the answers to these questions because it didn't effect you.

I don't think it could have been, because I could have sworn I saw it as clear as day on here, but perhaps the messages Lardy posted about the Trump family exploiting that baby whose parents were killed at El Paso were the sort of subliminal message you're talking about because, as I recall, none of the I know everything about everything brigade had anything to say about them whatsoever.