US-UK discussing 1st November trade deal

[cyril evans awaydays]

Four out of the five posters I thought I'd trigger have crossed the finishing line. I'm awaiting Cardiff Irish to weigh in for the accumulator to be in the money.

Well wagered. I must admit I let out a quiet chortle....alright a big guffaw, when you started quoting John Bolton. You have spent a few years posting on how he is the Prince of Darkness. Suddenly, the Walrus of War says the world will be fantastic for the UK from 1st November forwards and you treat anyone not bowing down to him walking down from Mount Sinai with some tablets of stone like a blasphemer. It's almost like Johnny Boy wants us to detach ourselves from Europe and start his next crusade against Iran asap. Given he is your new Moses I guess you are on board.

[CardiffIrish2]

Four out of the five posters I thought I'd trigger have crossed the finishing line. I'm awaiting Cardiff Irish to weigh in for the accumulator to be in the money.

I posted above dear, you must be getting sloppy in your old age.

By the way I’m looking forward to your next Sludge instalment as that always brings a tear of laugher to my monobrowed chops 😉👍

[Organ Morgan.]

I posted above dear, you must be getting sloppy in your old age.

By the way I’m looking forward to your next Sludge instalment as that always brings a tear of laugher to my monobrowed chops ����

Apologies for the oversight. Saw Sludge earlier as it happens. Will post a summary within a few hours.

[Wales-Bales]

We are going to restore trust in our democracy and come out of the EU on October 31st #LeaveOct31

— Boris Johnson (@BorisJohnson) August 15, 2019

[CardiffIrish2]

Apologies for the oversight. Saw Sludge earlier as it happens. Will post a summary within a few hours.

These updates are on a par with the much missed Penarth Kev’s Deep In The Bowels 😉👍

[Wales-Bales]

It appears the trade deal is the same one that May turned down, so at least we will get to witness the genius of Trumponomics close up! I hope it fails, otherwise you lot are in for a hammering on a similar scale to lardy's Trump Russia Collusion Delusion

[CardiffIrish2]

It appears the trade deal is the same one that May turned down, so at least we will get to witness the genius of Trumponomics close up! I hope it fails, otherwise you lot are in for a hammering on a similar scale to lardy's Trump Russia Collusion Delusion

As long as you’re happy WB I’m happy for you that you’ll be able to take such great pleasure.
Delighted for you mate honest 👍

[Wales-Bales]

As long as you’re happy WB I’m happy for you that you’ll be able to take such great pleasure.
Delighted for you mate honest ��

Thanks mate, much appreciated, but would it be too much to ask for a great awakening to take place among the political heavyweights on here? Opposite viewpoints are contintinually derided, and we always knew there would eventually come down to winners and losers, so are people going to continue to believe these batshit crazy theories that are perpetuated by certain individuals, or are they going to modify their thought processes? I do realise it's a big jump for people to realise that they have been lied to. How about you, will you still be wearing lardy's "Trump Russia Collusion Is Real" t-shirt that you got for Christmas?

[CardiffIrish2]

Thanks mate, much appreciated, but would it be too much to ask for a great awakening to take place among the political heavyweights on here? Opposite viewpoints are contintinually derided, and we always knew there would eventually come down to winners and losers, so are people going to continue to believe these batshit crazy theories that are perpetuated by certain individuals, or are they going to modify their thought processes? I do realise it's a big jump for people to realise that they have been lied to. How about you, will you still be wearing lardy's "Trump Russia Collusion Is Real" t-shirt that you got for Christmas?

If you trace my thoughts on the Russia trump thing I said all along I will wait to see what the investigation says so you’re spinning a tale if you think I said otherwise you mischievous scamp 😉👍I did say what Mueller said in that his report did not exonerate Trump as what Trump said.

But there we are case closed as they say.

[RonnieBird]

No one is strictly speaking ever exhonerated other than by a Court verdict. Police enquiries and the Mueller enquiry either find the evidence to prosecute or they don't, but in common parlance we often say that they've been exhonerated by this process.

Mueller is being as disingenuous therefore in answering that question in that way as those who asked it.

The whole enquiry was politically based and generated, and if they'd found any credible evidence they'd certainly have indicted or launched impeachment.

[lardy]

The whole enquiry was politically based and generated, and if they'd found any credible evidence they'd certainly have indicted or launched impeachment.

Are your two "they"s the same group?

[Wales-Bales]

No one is strictly speaking ever exhonerated other than by a Court verdict. Police enquiries and the Mueller enquiry either find the evidence to prosecute or they don't, but in common parlance we often say that they've been exhonerated by this process.

Mueller is being as disingenuous therefore in answering that question in that way as those who asked it.

The whole enquiry was politically based and generated, and if they'd found any credible evidence they'd certainly have indicted or launched impeachment.

The reason he worded it like that was to give some amunition to congress so that they could begin impeachment hearings in the run-up to the 2020 elections. They are desparate to get rid of Trump, because he can expose all of their malfeasance. Unfortunately, they have all been caught!

Is Fox News still a dirty word on here?

[Wales-Bales]

Anyway, Trump's plan with Johnson is a big part of the de-Globalization process, and UK will be a gateway into and out of the EU market for the US. America also needs the UK as a strong partner in NATO, and on the Security Council, so we do have some bargaining power.

Furthermore, Germany are about to turn on the funny money printing presses, along with possible negative interest rates, so I think it is fair to say that Trump has got the EU and China in a bit of a pickle at the moment, with no more free lunches on the table.

Of course it's not great for the multinational corporations, but it will be good for the US and UK economies.

[life on mars]

Anyway, Trump's plan with Johnson is a big part of the de-Globalization process, and UK will be a gateway into and out of the EU market for the US. America also needs the UK as a strong partner in NATO, and on the Security Council, so we do have some bargaining power.

Furthermore, Germany are about to turn on the funny money printing presses, along with possible negative interest rates, so I think it is fair to say that Trump has got the EU and China in a bit of a pickle at the moment, with no more free lunches on the table.

Of course it's not great for the multinational corporations, [B]but it will be good for the US and UK economies[

/B].

And in the grand scheme of things this is what will matter .( it will be good for the US and UK economies) thats all Workington man wants to see some benefits ?

Another 'wait and see' moment ,they are building up

[cyril evans awaydays]

And in the grand scheme of things this is what will matter .( it will be good for the US and UK economies) thats all Workington man wants to see some benefits ?

Another 'wait and see' moment ,they are building up

Well some of the waiting is over. The Department for International Trade reckons that an ambitious and far reaching deal with the US will grow the UK economy by as much as 0.16%.

By my crude maths that means we only need to find 30 more equivalent pump-priming deals with the rest of the world to compensate for the 4.9% hit (UK Treasury calculation) the economy will receive as a consequence of a Canada-style trade deal we are seeking with the EU.

Obviously if we walk away as we are threatening and go for what the Government is ridiculously calling an Australian-type deal (Clue Australia has no deal with the EU and trades on WTO terms) then the hit goes up to 7.6% or 48 countries with equivalent amount of trade to that we are seeking with the US.

The Government's answer to this was to rubbish its own calculations on the basis that they were made by the previous government. Wait and see what "alternative facts" they come up with I suppose.

[Wales-Bales]

Trump on China

[RonnieBird]

What a guy !

[Wales-Bales]

What a guy !

Communist China have a plan to be the preeminent superpower by 2050. It looks like president trump is the only person in the world who is prepared to stand up to them. For some reason nearly all of the posters on here want him to fail. Just let that sink in for a moment. You would think that bob and lardy were making billions of dollars from globalisation, just like the other wealthy elite players do, but the fact is this money is being taken from us as a country, and from America, and many other countries too.

[RonnieBird]

Communist China have a plan to be the preeminent superpower by 2050. It looks like president trump is the only person in the world who is prepared to stand up to them. For some reason nearly all of the posters on here want him to fail. Just let that sink in for a moment. You would think that bob and lardy were making billions of dollars from globalisation, just like the other wealthy elite players do, but the fact is this money is being taken from us as a country, and from America, and many other countries too.

The issues here are very clear to a rational mind, and it's not just China, but it's unimaginably rich Western globalist backers who would benefit from such developments - plans really. As you say, these kids are not only excluded from these benefits , but would suffer particularly from them, so obviously we must ask why they would be so enthusiastic about seeing their own liberties and incomes destroyed.
Well, as I've mentioned, that can only be because their conclusions and opinions have been given to them rather than arrived at on their own.

[Wales-Bales]

The issues here are very clear to a rational mind, and it's not just China, but it's unimaginably rich Western globalist backers who would benefit from such developments - plans really. As you say, these kids are not only excluded from these benefits , but would suffer particularly from them, so obviously we must ask why they would be so enthusiastic about seeing their own liberties and incomes destroyed.
Well, as I've mentioned, that can only be because their conclusions and opinions have been given to them rather than arrived at on their own.

I singled out China because they are a nation who have imperialist ambitions. Once they achieve the status of dominant Superpower, they will start exercising that power around the world (they already have in the South China Sea). I just feel a bit sad for bob and lardy, that they won't be around to witness the Chinese flag flying above Buckingham Palace, and every other public building. No doubt they will have a monument to commemorate the useless idiots though

[RonnieBird]

Talking of useful idiots, I tend to think that China will quickly turn its back on Soros and Al Gore etc once they've served their purpose.
I do think though that China could be discouraged from all this if the price of working with globalists became too high, and stopping the trade advantages which these globalists create for them would go a long way in that direction .

Actually, the history of communist takeovers is that they execute the "useful fools" or put them in labour camps because they've been conditioned to be disruptive to society and that process is irreversible .

[Wales-Bales]

Talking of useful idiots, I tend to think that China will quickly turn its back on Soros and Al Gore etc once they've served their purpose.
I do think though that China could be discouraged from all this if the price of working with globalists became too high, and stopping the trade advantages which these globalists create for them would go a long way in that direction .

Actually, the history of communist takeovers is that they execute the "useful fools" or put them in labour camps because they've been conditioned to be disruptive to society and that process is irreversible .

Not to mention the Biden and Kerry kids who got over a billion.

[life on mars]

LONDON (Reuters) - Britain and the United States are discussing a partial trade accord that could take effect on Nov. 1, the day after Britain is due to leave the European Union, a senior Trump administration official said on Tuesday.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1V31QV

Thank you America a good friend indeed ,more pressure on EU , great tactics.

Gloves off time .

We get out ,trade deal with USA ,we should award them Greenland for thier effort .

[RonnieBird]

Thank you America a good friend indeed ,more pressure on EU , great tactics.

Gloves off time .

We get out ,trade deal with USA ,we should award them Greenland for thier effort .

[life on mars]

I singled out China because they are a nation who have imperialist ambitions. Once they achieve the status of dominant Superpower, they will start exercising that power around the world (they already have in the South China Sea). I just feel a bit sad for bob and lardy, that they won't be around to witness the Chinese flag flying above Buckingham Palace, and every other public building. No doubt they will have a monument to commemorate the useless idiots though

Nah Trump USA project is underway and although Democrats don't like to admit it ,they secretly know China needs controlling hence trade war , or lets not forget the strangely timed Hong Kong troubles,North Korea , American war games in the surrounding seas,new trade deals with Japan , all keeping the little pesky undemocratic buggers busy.

You thank the Chinese for the steel indusrty woes.