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Thread: Johnson seeks to prorogue Parliament.

  1. #76
    Heisenberg
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    Re: Johnson seeks to prorogue Parliament.

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Thats the problem these days you can't tell folks jokes from their child like insults.
    You know that you don't have to try to defend RB all of the time, don't you? If he doesn't respond, it's because he knows he's been shown up again for not being as intelligent as he likes to keep telling everyone of the 'fluoride generation'.

    He still hasn't responded to the gun control post that he "promised" that he would... because he can't. He answer whether he thought the NHS was evil, like he thinks everything remotely related to socialism inherently is... Because he can't. It's a clear pattern of not being able to back himself up when he gets stuck. You're making yourself look a bit sad by trying to defend him, to be honest.

    Also, if posters can't differentiate between an obvious (and witty) joke and a "child like insult" (which simply saying 'Project Fear' wouldn't be anyway, would it?), then that's their problem.

  2. #77

    Re: Johnson seeks to prorogue Parliament.

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Strange isn't it.
    It's almost like they are trying to avoid it because it tells a different story to the one they dreamed up in their heads, can't be that though, must be busy.

  3. #78

    Re: Johnson seeks to prorogue Parliament.

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Thats the problem these days you can't tell folks jokes from their child like insults.
    If you think that was an insult, you may be a snowflake.

  4. #79

    Re: Johnson seeks to prorogue Parliament.

    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    You know that you don't have to try to defend RB all of the time, don't you? If he doesn't respond, it's because he knows he's been shown up again for not being as intelligent as he likes to keep telling everyone of the 'fluoride generation'.

    He still hasn't responded to the gun control post that he "promised" that he would... because he can't. He answer whether he thought the NHS was evil, like he thinks everything remotely related to socialism inherently is... Because he can't. It's a clear pattern of not being able to back himself up when he gets stuck. You're making yourself look a bit sad by trying to defend him, to be honest.

    Also, if posters can't differentiate between an obvious (and witty) joke and a "child like insult" (which simply saying 'Project Fear' wouldn't be anyway, would it?), then that's their problem.
    WB, RB and Lom always look out for each other. I'm going to start calling them The Squad.

  5. #80

    Re: Johnson seeks to prorogue Parliament.

    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    You know that you don't have to try to defend RB all of the time, don't you? If he doesn't respond, it's because he knows he's been shown up again for not being as intelligent as he likes to keep telling everyone of the 'fluoride generation'.

    He still hasn't responded to the gun control post that he "promised" that he would... because he can't. He answer whether he thought the NHS was evil, like he thinks everything remotely related to socialism inherently is... Because he can't. It's a clear pattern of not being able to back himself up when he gets stuck. You're making yourself look a bit sad by trying to defend him, to be honest.

    Also, if posters can't differentiate between an obvious (and witty) joke and a "child like insult" (which simply saying 'Project Fear' wouldn't be anyway, would it?), then that's their problem.

    To be frank Heisenberg - and I told you this once- I'm not going to bother trying to discuss stuff with you because you've got a nasty little mouth on you and in any case you can't learn anything from me or anyone else because you think you already know everything.

    Yeah, I would have explained the 2nd amendment and my views upon it because at the time I thought you had an intelligent interest in the matter, but then you had one or two outbursts of adolescent abuse and so I'm not going to waste my time - I'm not your special needs teacher or your probation officer .

    I'm not sure whether LOM was defending me as such , rather than commenting on the loutish jibbering which some people come out with instead of conversation. In any case , my views and conclusions don't need to be defended against judgement by you because I'm perfectly entitled to hold them whether or not you approve and the purpose of setting them out would be discussion , not to seek vindication or permission from you to disagree .

  6. #81

    Re: Johnson seeks to prorogue Parliament.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    It's almost like they are trying to avoid it because it tells a different story to the one they dreamed up in their heads, can't be that though, must be busy.
    Another night to sleep on it, yet still no comment - you don't think they've all just missed it do you?

    Here's the link again, just in case they did.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCS_FvNXoAERVWs.png

  7. #82

    Re: Johnson seeks to prorogue Parliament.

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    WB, RB and Lom always look out for each other. I'm going to start calling them The Squad.
    I didn't marry my sister, nor do I enter countries illegally, and I'm not a homewrecker who is having an affair with a campaign worker, while paying them loads of money. Please think of a new name, may I suggest the Invincibles?

  8. #83
    Heisenberg
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    Re: Johnson seeks to prorogue Parliament.

    Quote Originally Posted by RonnieBird View Post
    To be frank Heisenberg - and I told you this once- I'm not going to bother trying to discuss stuff with you because you've got a nasty little mouth on you and in any case you can't learn anything from me or anyone else because you think you already know everything.

    Yeah, I would have explained the 2nd amendment and my views upon it because at the time I thought you had an intelligent interest in the matter, but then you had one or two outbursts of adolescent abuse and so I'm not going to waste my time - I'm not your special needs teacher or your probation officer .

    I'm not sure whether LOM was defending me as such , rather than commenting on the loutish jibbering which some people come out with instead of conversation. In any case , my views and conclusions don't need to be defended against judgement by you because I'm perfectly entitled to hold them whether or not you approve and the purpose of setting them out would be discussion , not to seek vindication or permission from you to disagree .
    That's a long winded way of saying that you couldn't answer my questions.

    You do realise that it was two weeks after those posts that you took offence to something that I said to you, don't you?

    Also, you were overly offended by a post that was aimed at you which was ageist, in response to the dozen-or-so posts that you made which were also ageist. This makes you a hypocrite with a complete lack of self-awareness.

    It's for reasons like these that you're treated as a joke on here. I enjoy the punchline every time, so please stick around.

  9. #84

    Re: Johnson seeks to prorogue Parliament.

    Okay, you think what you want

  10. #85

    Re: Johnson seeks to prorogue Parliament.

    Quote Originally Posted by Auntie Andy View Post
    Tory’s are a bunch of lying dictators. Summed up perfectly here.

    https://twitter.com/lbc/status/1167528494303252480?s=21



  11. #86

    Re: Johnson seeks to prorogue Parliament.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    I think it adds to the debate. Our no deal enthusiasts don't appear to be so interested though.
    please include the opposition in that ( no deal enthusiasts ) as one can clearly see they will never vote for any type of agreed deal made by this government .

  12. #87

    Re: Johnson seeks to prorogue Parliament.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post


    if you google Boris and Nazis you get

    About 19,400,000 results (0.46 seconds)
    Showing results for boris and nazis


    ""SADIQ Khan has branded Donald Trump and Boris Johnson extreme "far right" leaders in a blistering rant that seems to liken them to the NAZIS

  13. #88

    Re: Johnson seeks to prorogue Parliament.

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    if you google Boris and Nazis you get

    About 19,400,000 results (0.46 seconds)
    Showing results for boris and nazis


    ""SADIQ Khan has branded Donald Trump and Boris Johnson extreme "far right" leaders in a blistering rant that seems to liken them to the NAZIS

    Not quite as daft as blaming the opposition for all the problems with Brexit.

  14. #89

    Re: Johnson seeks to prorogue Parliament.

    Quote Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2 View Post
    Not quite as daft as blaming the opposition for all the problems with Brexit.
    What will they agree too then , I will drop Boris a note .

    PLEASE can you spell it out for me as I honesty dont get their position , haven't done for two years now other than trying to get an election ,endless time wasting amendments votes of confidence,unity governments ,what does all that achieve ,they voted for article 50 FFS ??

    Both parties know the deal is the deal , as written in the withdrawal agreement ( and repeatedly stated by the EEC )

  15. #90

    Re: Johnson seeks to prorogue Parliament.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post



    " everyone I don't like is a Nazi "

  16. #91

    Re: Johnson seeks to prorogue Parliament.

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    What will they agree too then , I will drop Boris a note .

    PLEASE can you spell it out for me as I honesty dont get their position , haven't done for two years now other than trying to get an election ,endless time wasting amendments votes of confidence,unity governments ,what does all that achieve ,they voted for article 50 FFS ??

    Both parties know the deal is the deal , as written in the withdrawal agreement ( and repeatedly stated by the EEC )
    The deal was not the only deal available. It was the only deal available with May's red lines.

  17. #92

    Re: Johnson seeks to prorogue Parliament.

    Quote Originally Posted by RonnieBird View Post
    To be frank Heisenberg - and I told you this once- I'm not going to bother trying to discuss stuff with you because you've got a nasty little mouth on you and in any case you can't learn anything from me or anyone else because you think you already know everything.

    Yeah, I would have explained the 2nd amendment and my views upon it because at the time I thought you had an intelligent interest in the matter, but then you had one or two outbursts of adolescent abuse and so I'm not going to waste my time - I'm not your special needs teacher or your probation officer .

    I'm not sure whether LOM was defending me as such , rather than commenting on the loutish jibbering which some people come out with instead of conversation. In any case , my views and conclusions don't need to be defended against judgement by you because I'm perfectly entitled to hold them whether or not you approve and the purpose of setting them out would be discussion , not to seek vindication or permission from you to disagree .
    Clever people stopped making children with SEND the punchline to their jokes and insults a long time ago.

  18. #93

    Re: Johnson seeks to prorogue Parliament.

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Another night to sleep on it, yet still no comment - you don't think they've all just missed it do you?

    Here's the link again, just in case they did.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCS_FvNXoAERVWs.png
    I think it must be invisible because they are here arguing the toss over everything else.

  19. #94

    Re: Johnson seeks to prorogue Parliament.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    I think it must be invisible because they are here arguing the toss over everything else.
    One thing I'm pretty sure about is that the lack or replies can't be down to them not being able to think of a response proving that all people voting Leave wanted a no deal Brexit because, as they know everything about everything, they must have plenty of them at their fingertips.

  20. #95

    Re: Johnson seeks to prorogue Parliament.

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    One thing I'm pretty sure about is that the lack or replies can't be down to them not being able to think of a response proving that all people voting Leave wanted a no deal Brexit because, as they know everything about everything, they must have plenty of them at their fingertips.
    I just can't fathom it, totally out of character to just ignore things that disprove their world view.

  21. #96

    Re: Johnson seeks to prorogue Parliament.

    This is what people were told when they voted leave.

    We won't start article 50 until we have a plan. We'll be able to trade freely with Europe. We'll remain in the free trade zone. We can choose whatever path we want.



    No deal was never part of the plan.

  22. #97

    Re: Johnson seeks to prorogue Parliament.

    Today's developments have made it pretty clear I think. The government are gagging for an election but need to lay groundwork that justifys calling it to brexiteers. Expect a lot of 'the remainers frustrated the negotiations' as we twist and turn our way to a GE that sees us miss the 31st deadline.

  23. #98

    Re: Johnson seeks to prorogue Parliament.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    Today's developments have made it pretty clear I think. The government are gagging for an election but need to lay groundwork that justifys calling it to brexiteers. Expect a lot of 'the remainers frustrated the negotiations' as we twist and turn our way to a GE that sees us miss the 31st deadline.
    Yes, the strategy is clear. Do whatever is possible to get those ukip/brexit party voters back in the Tory fold.

    Basically it's the last five dreadful years all over again, but this time it's shit or bust.

  24. #99

    Re: Johnson seeks to prorogue Parliament.

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Yes, the strategy is clear. Do whatever is possible to get those ukip/brexit party voters back in the Tory fold.

    Basically it's the last five dreadful years all over again, but this time it's shit or bust.
    The crazy thing is that Johnson's cabal are banking on Corbyn falling into this trap and it shows every sign that he is stupid enough to fall for it.

    I wouldn't underestimate how effective the war strategists behind Johnson are. A combination of out Brexiting the Brexit party on the EU and out promising the Labour Party on spending on the very institutions that the people making the promises starved for almost a decade has a good chance of succeeding. They think the opposition is more fractured than they are.

    Still, it is a pretty high risk strategy. They could lose Davidson's foothold in Scotland, see weaker NI support, have deselected Tory MPs with a strong personal brand fighting against their replacements and see massive tactical voting, particularly in Tory seats with a strong remain constituency.

    It would not surprise that Johnson will be equally as clueless managing any victory as he was after the referendum.

  25. #100

    Re: Johnson seeks to prorogue Parliament.

    This week may be the culmination of the Siege of Westminster
    A defeated force has barricaded itself in at PW for three years , refusing to accept the outcome and trying every last desperate tactic to hang on to power against the will of the people.
    Like all sieges it must eventually come to an end, either in a bloody finale or by the besieged faction walking away quietly.

    Who knows the outcome ? I really don't think anyone can be certain, but there must now be a battle and an outcome achieved. Napoleon said that the General who merely waits behind his defences , however strong, is already defeated, and this has generally proven true, so we may take something from that.

    It will be a great thing if this horrible situation can finally be resolved over the next week, but we cannot be certain.

    The difference is that one side can win a final victory, whilst the other can only hope to prolong the stalemate for a bit longer.
    Either way, we must move forward at this stage to force a resolution of the siege if not the war.

    It's at least 50/50 that the bitter clingers to the EU can be finally overcome this week, and that's a chance which must be taken at this stage, otherwise they'll block all other human activity in the country and sap the substance from the people with their perpetual negative blocking of the vote which was decided three years ago.

    If they can rally to halt progress one last time, then at least it's shifted on to the open field and they won't be able to hide any longer behind parliamentary rules which were never intended to frustrate the will of the people or harm the country.

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