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    Operation Yellowhammer

    Government has released documents relating to what it's now calling "HMG Reasonable Worst Case Planning Assumptions" but what was a month ago called "BASE SCENARIO"

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...dsom-live-news

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    I'm 100% backing Boris but I'm not 100% backing his own government's analysis.....

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    Re: Operation Yellowhammer

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    I'm 100% backing Boris but I'm not 100% backing his own government's analysis.....
    Johnson = 100% loser dick

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    Sky news is reporting that it's the worst case scenario and not the base scenario.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vindec View Post
    Sky news is reporting that it's the worst case scenario and not the base scenario.
    Sky news are reporting that it is titled worse case scenario, and not titled base scenario (which it appears to have been titled previously)

    I guess people will see what they want to see (and I include myself in that)

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    We have the worst case scenario
    Boris fecking Johnson

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    If that's the worst case scenario, then it's no cause for panic IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    If that's the worst case scenario, then it's no cause for panic IMO.
    Well I for one will sleep a lot better now that you've cast your eye over it and concluded it's OK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimistic Nick View Post
    Well I for one will sleep a lot better now that you've cast your eye over it and concluded it's OK.
    It's not that bad in the grand scheme of things, I thought we'd all have starved death inside of a fortnitght.

    I am now looking forward to the leaking of operation red purse, to see how rich we will all become in the best case scenario.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    If that's the worst case scenario, then it's no cause for panic IMO.
    Riddle me this: if the SR consequences of a no deal exit are so negligible, why is a no deal exit held as such a bargaining chip with the EU by the leaver tools?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    If that's the worst case scenario, then it's no cause for panic IMO.
    I’m so pleased you have no loved ones who need care, medical supplies or drives a truck...or is Irish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    If that's the worst case scenario, then it's no cause for panic IMO.
    Serious question - how many lives do you consider an acceptable number to lose because of no deal, for example because of medicine shortages?

    I'm not suggesting thousands will die, I'm hoping that worst case is very much worst case and it will all be fine, but it's not insane to think that some people who are completely dependent on certain medicines would die if those medicines were even slightly delayed, which seems to be a pretty realistic possibility due to a no deal Brexit. So as someone who thinks this report is no cause for panic, how many people do you think is an acceptable amount to die to get us out of the EU?

    I personally think the answer is 0 being that the consequences of no deal are well known in advance and our parliamentary system is being torn apart in an attempt to avoid it happening, but there's no way your answer (going by what you believe both about this report and Brexit in general) can be 0 so what is the magic number?

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    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    Serious question - how many lives do you consider an acceptable number to lose because of no deal, for example because of medicine shortages?

    I'm not suggesting thousands will die, I'm hoping that worst case is very much worst case and it will all be fine, but it's not insane to think that some people who are completely dependent on certain medicines would die if those medicines were even slightly delayed, which seems to be a pretty realistic possibility due to a no deal Brexit. So as someone who thinks this report is no cause for panic, how many people do you think is an acceptable amount to die to get us out of the EU?

    I personally think the answer is 0 being that the consequences of no deal are well known in advance and our parliamentary system is being torn apart in an attempt to avoid it happening, but there's no way your answer (going by what you believe both about this report and Brexit in general) can be 0 so what is the magic number?
    I don't know how anyone can actually read it and say no cause for panic. Either he hasn't read it or he can't comprehend how bad it will be.

    One of the lines in there says "Low income families will be disproportionally affected by food price rises".

    Yet again the poorest members of society are going to be ****ed by the richest. A lot of people who use this board will be affected by that too. No deal brexit is a disgrace.

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    Worst case scenario, base scenario? Whatever. None of it sounds like something anyone would want to vote for. Each to their own I suppose, but I wouldn't fancy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Blue View Post
    I’m so pleased you have no loved ones who need care, medical supplies or drives a truck...or is Irish.
    Yet another panic merchant. Feared of the day you’ve never seen.
    Just as the UK were pioneers in inventing the telephone, television etc, we will prove to be pioneers in escaping the clutches of a debt ridden, power hungry all consuming “club for the boys’, called the EU. We’ll be the 1st to leave, but we won’t be the last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    Yet another panic merchant. Feared of the day you’ve never seen.
    Just as the UK were pioneers in inventing the telephone, television etc, we will prove to be pioneers in escaping the clutches of a debt ridden, power hungry all consuming “club for the boys’, called the EU. We’ll be the 1st to leave, but we won’t be the last.
    Not sure if serious, but...

    You say "we", but you've mentioned just two people by way of example, and they are both dead. So those guys won't be around to invent us out of trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    Yet another panic merchant. Feared of the day you’ve never seen.
    Just as the UK were pioneers in inventing the telephone, television etc, we will prove to be pioneers in escaping the clutches of a debt ridden, power hungry all consuming “club for the boys’, called the EU. We’ll be the 1st to leave, but we won’t be the last.
    Genghis Khan was shit hot too. Hows Mongolia shaping up nowadays?

    This does sum it up. People unable to accept the world has moved on and we're not a super power of the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Genghis Khan was shit hot too. Hows Mongolia shaping up nowadays?

    This does sum it up. People unable to accept the world has moved on and we're not a super power of the future.
    The knots Leavers are now having to tie themselves in to try to justify their original decision would be hilarious if it wasn't such a serious situation.

    Can anyone say that they had fully considered the fact that there may be shortages of crucial medicines for some patients as a result of us leaving the EU when they cast their vote Leave vote in 2016 - truthful answers would be appreciated as opposed to the usual "party line" stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    The knots Leavers are now having to tie themselves in to try to justify their original decision would be hilarious if it wasn't such a serious situation.

    Can anyone say that they had fully considered the fact that there may be shortages of crucial medicines for some patients as a result of us leaving the EU when they cast their vote Leave vote in 2016 - truthful answers would be appreciated as opposed to the usual "party line" stuff.
    It would be sadly ironic of all those oldies who voted to leave, and we do, then struggle to get their much needed meds and meet their maker so to speak.....I wonder which way they would vote now knowing how useless all the politicians we have in uk and Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    escaping the clutches of a debt ridden, power hungry all consuming “club for the boys’,
    I think you'll find that's the Conservative party.

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    What's the worst case scenario when you get out of bed in the morning?

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    Government has to plan for worst case scenarios. It already has procedures in place for every natural disaster you could think of also.

    We're British, at worst we will form an orderly queue to get a single loaf of bread, no two for one deals for a while and maybe some organised pavement shuffling by remain and leave debating teams.

    Let project fear commence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger View Post
    Government has to plan for worst case scenarios. It already has procedures in place for every natural disaster you could think of also.

    We're British, at worst we will form an orderly queue to get a single loaf of bread, no two for one deals for a while and maybe some organised pavement shuffling by remain and leave debating teams.

    Let project fear commence.
    Have you forgotten the fuel shortage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimistic Nick View Post
    Not sure if serious, but...

    You say "we", but you've mentioned just two people by way of example, and they are both dead. So those guys won't be around to invent us out of trouble.
    The trouble is in your mind, and others like you.
    Nobody is saying it’s gonna be smooth sailing. A big change is always gonna have teething problems, and some will suffer more than others while we get used to it, but that’s happened since time began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    The trouble is in your mind, and others like you.
    Nobody is saying it’s gonna be smooth sailing. A big change is always gonna have teething problems, and some will suffer more than others while we get used to it, but that’s happened since time began.
    But why stick a pin in your eye when you don't have to?Nice of you to think of those who will suffer so that a minority of politicians can indulge in some ancient ideological notion of the Empire days when the ruling classes bowed to no one.Project fear is now becoming project reality and thanks to the law we may now know the full extent before we jump off the cliff.

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