Operation Yellowhammer

[jon1959]

Ho, ho, ho, it's always everybody else who gets duped and never you, Mr Trump Russia Collusion man

I haven't really followed all the black ops and alt right propaganda on Mueller and Russia - certainly not made any claims on it - but is it your view (independently formed of course from the most reliable of objective sources) that Trump is innocent of not only collusion but also of obstruction of justice? I think I know the answer, but you know...... ho ho ho!

[Wales-Bales]

I haven't really followed all the black ops and alt right propaganda on Mueller and Russia - certainly not made any claims on it - but is it your view (independently formed of course from the most reliable of objective sources) that Trump is innocent of not only collusion but also of obstruction of justice? I think I know the answer, but you know...... ho ho ho!

What's the answer?

[lardy]

I haven't really followed all the black ops and alt right propaganda on Mueller and Russia - certainly not made any claims on it - but is it your view (independently formed of course from the most reliable of objective sources) that Trump is innocent of not only collusion but also of obstruction of justice? I think I know the answer, but you know...... ho ho ho!

Gluey- an expert on the internal workings of the White House and 10 Downing Street, as well as their future plans

Also Gluey- doesn't realise that the duped sentence is a quote from someone else, not me.

[Dorcus]

And we should never had a referendum to vote ourselves out. We elect MPs to make crucial decisions like this and thank God we’ve still got a few having a go at sorting out this whole sorry mess. The referendum was a hell of a cop out for parliament, they can always fall back on the line ‘Well you voted for it’. But, talking to a few leavers now they didn’t realise that they were voting for this fiasco, I’m sure some of them thought we’d be out at midnight that night.

Spot on!

[William Treseder]

Why on Earth would anyone in their right mind want to leave?

I suggest you ask the 17.4m people who voted to do so.

[Dorcus]

I suggest you ask the 17.4m people who voted to do so.

A figure which had now probably fallen to well below 16million and dropping like a stone as we speak.

[Dorcus]

Well, you've got it there. People were duped into believing it would be easy. Farage said we'd get a deal easy (Norway, Canada, our choice), Johnson said we'd save money and could spend it on the NHS, and he also said the Irish border would be unaffected by Brexit. We now know that these two, and many others involved in the campaign, stand to individually gain massive sums of money from Brexit (not to mention that Johnson got the premiership from it).

As you say, people were duped, and that actually makes it pretty hard from a democratic point of view to argue that the result from 2016 should stand without a followup. Democracy is all about the people making choices from information they have.

This was always the case. A super rich elite pulling the strings in the background planning for a bonanza by stripping the UK of any protective regulation. The tragedy is that so many of the hapless hordes who voted to Leave did not understand they would suffer badly in the event and were manipulated by a class of immoral speculators.

[William Treseder]

This was always the case. A super rich elite pulling the strings in the background planning for a bonanza by stripping the UK of any protective regulation. The tragedy is that so many of the hapless hordes who voted to Leave did not understand they would suffer badly in the event and were manipulated by a class of immoral speculators.

You’re not endearing yourself to me, by using terms like “hapless hordes”.
Going by your logic, if the oh so clever remain voters, with their wonderful gift of hindsight, had got off their arses and voted, we wouldn’t be in this mess.

[Dorcus]

You’re not endearing yourself to me, by using terms like “hapless hordes”.
Going by your logic, if the oh so clever remain voters, with their wonderful gift of hindsight, had got off their arses and voted, we wouldn’t be in this mess.

A fair point you make there, many were too complacent, hopefully they won't be when the third referendum comes along. However, I'm sure you'll agree with me that it was a huge con not allowing the 16-17 year olds to vote when they are going to be most affected by the issue. Hopefully that will be rectified in time for the next poll.

[life on mars]

I'm not an expert on anything written here, we both had access to exactactly the same sources of information. The only difference was the analysis techniques that were used to make sense of the information.

Even though I was a lone voice, and I had to withstand constant character assassinations and ridicule, I still stand by my observations. Luckily we are on a timeline, so we will be able to see who was doing things the right way.

I have to admit you are well read , and back up your views with evidence , Im guessing the reason why people then get personal , is simply born from frustration that their chosen politics is exposed and at times can be as nasty and the same as those they oppose and despise .

Its called lashing out , I used to tell my children not too do it , thankfully they finally grew up .

[Wales-Bales]

I have to admit you are well read , and back up your views with evidence , Im guessing the reason why people then get personal , is simply born from frustration that their chosen politics is exposed and at times can be as nasty and the same as those they oppose and despise .

Its called lashing out , I used to tell my children not too do it , thankfully they finally grew up .

I've realised one thing, you can't help those who don't want to be helped!

Ol' lardy & cyril are still going around trying to tarnish my reputation, and they seem to be taking it all very personally. At the end of the day the truth speaks for itself, and I know where I stand in all of this.

[life on mars]

I've realised one thing, you can't help those who don't want to be helped!

Ol' lardy & cyril are still going around trying to tarnish my reputation, and they seem to be taking it all very personally. At the end of the day the truth speaks for itself, and I know where I stand in all of this.

Sadly its got personal and under thier skin , im sure the insults will flow soon neither them or thier alias .

Bring them on I say , oooh its like the 70's all over again ,love a good ruck .

[cyril evans awaydays]

Sadly its got personal and under thier skin , im sure the insults will flow soon neither them or thier alias .

Bring them on I say , oooh its like the 70's all over again ,love a good ruck .

He bit...lol

[Eric Cartman]

I am just glad you have found each other

[CardiffIrish2]

I am just glad you have found each other

They obviously both swiped right on Tinder 😂

[Elwood Blues]

I'm not scaremongering mate it's facts. There's no want about it, you can't trade without a deal no matter how much they want to.

Also do you know what percentage of business the UK makes up of thesepharmaceuticals? Have a look in the yellowhammer document about the effect on the EU.

Why did you say you cannot stockpile insulin??

[Elwood Blues]

They’ve got 27 other countries without a trade barrier to sell drugs to mate and countless others with trade deals.

The U.K. makes up a percentage of their business and is the one suffering here.

So you are saying they will actually stop selling drugs to us????

[Elwood Blues]

Where are the U.K. getting a years worth of insulin to store for everyone that needs it?

Even the companies that manufacture only have 16 weeks worth stored -

https://www.diabetes.co.uk/news/2019...-93674148.html

Tory bootlicker looking for any excuse to continue to vote for them as usual.

I missed this post earlier.

I didn't say that anyone would be storing a years supply of insulin only that it can if need be.

I have also seen that sixteen weeks is actually planned for.

Providing the various companies still
keep.supplying us (and I can't see why not) you surely can't be saying that shipments will be held up for sixteen weeks!

And my post wasn't intended to be party political purely factual so stop this ridiculous tory bootlicker lark.

[Elwood Blues]

I see those who were criticising have gone very quiet when I give a reasoned response to their criticism.

Why am I not surprised!

[Eric Cartman]

To whom it may concern

This thread is to do with Operation Yellowhammer not Donald Trump

If you want to argue about Trump

DO IT IN THE TRUMP THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This, too much American politics on this board.

[Wales-Bales]

This, too much American politics on this board.

Brexit is a global issue, and I'm affraid you will have to accept that America is the 800-pound gorilla in all of this, no matter how hard you try to slice and dice it. You need to look at the bigger picture if you want to make sense of anything.

[Elwood Blues]

This, too much American politics on this board.

We agree on something Eric

[Wales-Bales]

I'll answer that. You asked whether Trump is "innocent ", rather than whether he's guilty, and id honestly say that's a clue that maybe you've been - quite innocently - influenced a bit by biased sources.
I'd say that he's certainly not guilty of either of the things you mention , but I couldn't say , and it's not reasonable to expect anyone to say or prove that he's "innocent".

Actually all of my observations were based on the rule of law, and I always provided references to back up my points of view. I was certainly not biased, as I looked at all sides of the story. However, it may have appeared that way to the untrained eye, but only because my analysis was entirely accurate. I actually laid out in great detail precisely what is happening right now over two years ago.

If any questions need to be asked, then they should be directed towards those who got everything so horribly wrong (i.e. lardy & cyril, etc). Instead of recognising the reality of the situation, they embarked on a marathon propaganda campaign to mislead the gullible. I don't know if it was by design, or perhaps they really are that stupid? And now they are telling everybody to put me on ignore because I have exposed their lies and fake agenda, and they don't want anybody to know the truth about them as it makes them look like a pair of idiots.

[RonnieBird]

Actually all of my observations were based on the rule of law, and I always provided references to back up my points of view. I was certainly not biased, as I looked at all sides of the story. However, it may have appeared that way to the untrained eye, but only because my analysis was entirely accurate. I actually laid out in great detail precisely what is happening right now over two years ago.

If any questions need to be asked, then they should be directed towards those who got everything so horribly wrong (i.e. lardy & cyril, etc). Instead of recognising the reality of the situation, they embarked on a marathon propaganda campaign to mislead the gullible. I don't know if it was by design, or perhaps they really are that stupid? And now they are telling everybody to put me on ignore because I have exposed their lies and fake agenda, and they don't want anybody to know the truth about them as it makes them look like a pair of idiots.

Perhaps I was unclear . I was trying to point out that Jon's invitation to prove the President "innocent" , rather than "not guilty" shows that some have been influenced subliminally to apply a much harsher standard to Mr Trump than we would to, for example, an accused murderer or child molester.

[Wales-Bales]

Perhaps I was unclear . I was trying to point out that Jon's invitation to prove the President "innocent" , rather than "not guilty" shows that some have been influenced subliminally to apply a much harsher standard to Mr Trump than we would to, for example, an accused murderer or child molester.

If he was guilty of any crime I would be the first to draw attention to his wrongdoing, but as you quite rightly point out, we now have a new standard of justice where everybody has to prove their own innocence. Thanks to this looney left ideology, everything has now become inverted. Even highlighting the truth will be used as a reason to silence people.