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    We'll be on the coach to Swansea during the semi final. I'm sure a Wales victory would see both sets of supporters come together as one in support of the boys

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    I'm too negative apparently, so I'll keep quiet except to say I thought that was a very honest assessment by Gatland and that his players owe him a performance.
    FFS Bob. Now was the chance for you to give them both barrels!!😁

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    FFS Bob. Now was the chance for you to give them both barrels!!��
    Okay, what I will say is that we were the lowest try scorers while winning the Grand Slam and I never had any illusions that we could succeed in this World Cup by playing a beautiful version of the game, but what's concerned me throughout the tournament is that we're struggling in facets that I thought we'd be among the best in the competition at.

    For example, our defence was very good at the end of the first half when we were hanging on by the skin of our teeth, but, at other times, there was a frailty which has been with us throughout the World Cup. Also, even when we were crap, there was a time when I thought we'd be better under the high ball than most sides we played, but we've not been great in that department either.

    As Grand Slam winners with a long run of victories behind us, I thought we should be making the Semi Finals, anything after that is a bonus. The fact we have done so without ever playing well in my opinion (England put the Australia game into some sort of perspective yesterday) could be an indicator that we can go all of the way, but it seems more likely at the moment that we've now got as far as we can in the tournament - whatever happens in the remaining quarter final, we're surely going to be the outsiders among the four in the semi finals.

    Being positive, Pearcey makes a good point about 2011 when an unimpressive French side gave New Zealand a hell of a game in a Final that most thought they would win at a canter - Wales still haven't shown what they are capable of in this tournament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Okay, what I will say is that we were the lowest try scorers while winning the Grand Slam and I never had any illusions that we could succeed in this World Cup by playing a beautiful version of the game, but what's concerned me throughout the tournament is that we're struggling in facets that I thought we'd be among the best in the competition at.

    For example, our defence was very good at the end of the first half when we were hanging on by the skin of our teeth, but, at other times, there was a frailty which has been with us throughout the World Cup. Also, even when we were crap, there was a time when I thought we'd be better under the high ball than most sides we played, but we've not been great in that department either.

    As Grand Slam winners with a long run of victories behind us, I thought we should be making the Semi Finals, anything after that is a bonus. The fact we have done so without ever playing well in my opinion (England put the Australia game into some sort of perspective yesterday) could be an indicator that we can go all of the way, but it seems more likely at the moment that we've now got as far as we can in the tournament - whatever happens in the remaining quarter final, we're surely going to be the outsiders among the four in the semi finals.

    Being positive, Pearcey makes a good point about 2011 when an unimpressive French side gave New Zealand a hell of a game in a Final that most thought they would win at a canter - Wales still haven't shown what they are capable of in this tournament.
    Just about recovered. Got to improve out of sight for next week to have any chance. We were very poor today in attack and defence. Yet somehow won. How? Probably only because we were playing France. Nobody played well really bar 1 or 2 of the replacements. We have to increase tempo, urgency and quality to give either a proper game in the semi. Relieved but worried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Okay, what I will say is that we were the lowest try scorers while winning the Grand Slam and I never had any illusions that we could succeed in this World Cup by playing a beautiful version of the game, but what's concerned me throughout the tournament is that we're struggling in facets that I thought we'd be among the best in the competition at.

    For example, our defence was very good at the end of the first half when we were hanging on by the skin of our teeth, but, at other times, there was a frailty which has been with us throughout the World Cup. Also, even when we were crap, there was a time when I thought we'd be better under the high ball than most sides we played, but we've not been great in that department either.

    As Grand Slam winners with a long run of victories behind us, I thought we should be making the Semi Finals, anything after that is a bonus. The fact we have done so without ever playing well in my opinion (England put the Australia game into some sort of perspective yesterday) could be an indicator that we can go all of the way, but it seems more likely at the moment that we've now got as far as we can in the tournament - whatever happens in the remaining quarter final, we're surely going to be the outsiders among the four in the semi finals.

    Being positive, Pearcey makes a good point about 2011 when an unimpressive French side gave New Zealand a hell of a game in a Final that most thought they would win at a canter - Wales still haven't shown what they are capable of in this tournament.
    You’ve summed it up perfectly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    You’ve summed it up perfectly.
    Yep. We have gone backwards especially in our defence which is now looking porous.

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    Japan are electrifying with ball in hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    Japan are electrifying with ball in hand.
    That's what months and months of staying together can do. They barely have to think about angles of attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    Japan are electrifying with ball in hand.
    Pleasure to watch aren’t they when they get it through hands, fairplay. Saffers a little fortunate not to be down to 14 too.

    TOBW spot on. I thought whilst watching it that’s its likely to be either side’s last game in the tournament - France had their game of the tournament, minus a moment of madness, and we look knackered and without much in the way of inventiveness.

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    Japan are a joy to watch. I would love to see them win this.

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    South Africa have completely dominated Japan in the second half

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    England have looked really good,think they are the only side to give The Blacks a hard time.

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    It's the four best sides in the world in 2019 as the final four in the competition. At the moment it seems to be heading towards a NZ South Africa final, Wales may be the only undefeated side in the tournament but haven't put in a strong performance since the 6 Nations and England are the opposite of battle-tested, but who knows what will happen over the next 240 minutes of rugby. Reasons for optimism for Wales supporters? Absolutely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surge View Post
    Wales may be the only undefeated side in the tournament
    England and NZ haven’t been beaten either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bob Banker Spanker View Post
    England and NZ haven’t been beaten either.
    True. The actual fact is that Wales are the only side to win all their games so far.

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    Could be an England -Wales final.

  17. #17

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    Quote Originally Posted by surge View Post
    True. The actual fact is that Wales are the only side to win all their games so far.
    True but I’m certain England and NZ would’ve won their games without any real issues.

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    Listened to Matt Dawson on the radio, he said we deserved to win our quarter final game against England in 2003, but they then went on to win the World Cup, so there’s still hope? He also said the players were knackered after that game and so basically rested before semifinals. I feel that seemed the problem with the Welsh players they looked knackered and badly need a rest!

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    Another one for the PC brigade! It's just a joke for heaven's sake. I thought he did an excellent job refereeing that game.

    On another matter, did anyone else notice the Welsh supporter in a tartan suit and jester's hat running back and forth whipping up support for Wales? That wasn't the famous Dai Hunt by chance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gofer Blue View Post
    Another one for the PC brigade! It's just a joke for heaven's sake. I thought he did an excellent job refereeing that game.

    On another matter, did anyone else notice the Welsh supporter in a tartan suit and jester's hat running back and forth whipping up support for Wales? That wasn't the famous Dai Hunt by chance?
    There's no such thing as a PC brigade, don't be so sensitive. This a pretty idiotic move by a professional match official to do this with the fans of the team that benefitted from his decision the night of the game. Imagine if say Mark Clattenburg sent off Sean Morrison for an elbow against Swansea then took a photo recreating that elbow and laughing with a bunch of Jacks that evening, there'd be riots amongst our fanbase.

    The only saving grace for Peyper is that it was the most clear cut red you could imagine so his impartiality shouldn't be called into question. He's definitely going to get reprimanded though, which is a shame because he reffed the game well as you say.

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    Agree that Peyper was naive in posing for the photo and his further involvement in RWC will be affected, BUT I can't agree he had a good game. Despite being 4 yards from that maul, he failed to spot the choke on Wainwright- you could see and hear our lad shouting at Peyper to alert him. To then miss the blatant elbow was piss poor. Once alerted by the TMO he was decisive. He missed a clear crossing by the Boks in midfield which prevented our tackle. He also fails to hurry scrum halves up at the base of rucks - he never shouts 'Use it now' like the top referees do. There was a lot of off the ball holding onto our players to slow them getting back into defence which he allowed. Doesn't deserve semi or final based on his performance rather than media outcry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penywaun gentrified View Post
    Agree that Peyper was naive in posing for the photo and his further involvement in RWC will be affected, BUT I can't agree he had a good game. Despite being 4 yards from that maul, he failed to spot the choke on Wainwright- you could see and hear our lad shouting at Peyper to alert him. To then miss the blatant elbow was piss poor. Once alerted by the TMO he was decisive. He missed a clear crossing by the Boks in midfield which prevented our tackle. He also fails to hurry scrum halves up at the base of rucks - he never shouts 'Use it now' like the top referees do. There was a lot of off the ball holding onto our players to slow them getting back into defence which he allowed. Doesn't deserve semi or final based on his performance rather than media outcry.
    Both these points about what he missed are fair

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gofer Blue View Post
    Another one for the PC brigade! It's just a joke for heaven's sake. I thought he did an excellent job refereeing that game.

    On another matter, did anyone else notice the Welsh supporter in a tartan suit and jester's hat running back and forth whipping up support for Wales? That wasn't the famous Dai Hunt by chance?
    It was 100% not Dai.

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    Josh Navidi out of the World Cup with hamstring injury. Big loss.

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