Warnock getting the best out the team/squad again..

[A Quiet Monkfish]

..today we only had Murphy, then Hoilett, who I'd consider to be 'quality' players with the ball at their feet. For me Ralls is the outstanding player on the pitch this season ; he covers every blade of grass and just doesn't stop, yet for the last 3 seasons I reckoned he was the weak link, which perhaps shows how lacking we are in midfield this season. Yet you could almost see Middlesbrough lose heart as the game went on. City stopped them all over the park and - as is so typical of Warnock's side[s] - they created much more with much less of the ball. Having said that, I don't think this midfield is going to push us into the top 6. Maybe with Pack for Paterson with Tomlin as an impact player they could. And hopefully Vaulks will play a part, too. 11 players all doing the jobs the manager has given them, will be a hard side to beat..

[cardiff55]

We are bang on mid table. Middlesbrough were worse than us. We did look strong at the back and Flint and Morrison seem to be getting it together now, another clean sheet. But we have nothing creative in midfield and lack a goalscorer up front despite having about 5 strikers. I can't believe Warnock took off Bogle for the totally ineffective Ward. Mind you I think there are a lot of teams such as us, not particularly good, but not bad either.

[Baloo]

Not pretty but that’s undefeated in 5 in the league. Keep grinding out results and who knows.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Agreed. A fortunate early own goal separating 2 poor sides is about the best we can get at present.

[Former Labour leader]

..today we only had Murphy, then Hoilett, who I'd consider to be 'quality' players with the ball at their feet. For me Ralls is the outstanding player on the pitch this season ; he covers every blade of grass and just doesn't stop, yet for the last 3 seasons I reckoned he was the weak link, which perhaps shows how lacking we are in midfield this season. Yet you could almost see Middlesbrough lose heart as the game went on. City stopped them all over the park and - as is so typical of Warnock's side[s] - they created much more with much less of the ball. Having said that, I don't think this midfield is going to push us into the top 6. Maybe with Pack for Paterson with Tomlin as an impact player they could. And hopefully Vaulks will play a part, too. 11 players all doing the jobs the manager has given them, will be a hard side to beat..

I think we are developing into a workmanlike Warnock side. I see no reason why we will not he top 6 by Xmas.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

I think we are developing into a workmanlike Warnock side. I see no reason why we will not he top 6 by Xmas.

I'll offer one reason. We haven't got the attacking flair and ability we had 2 seasons ago.

[goats]

I'll offer one reason. We haven't got the attacking flair and ability we had 2 seasons ago.

Who is missing then?

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Who is missing then?

Zohore for one. While he could often look languid and uninterested, Glatzel and Bogle are average in comparison to Zohore on an off day.

Whyte has no pace and no end product. Mendez-Laing took the division by storm when he started his City career. Hoilett, the only player at the club capable of good crosses is now an impact player to someone who threatens to do well (Murphy) but flatters to deceive.

We have no drive in the middle of the park and we miss Gunnarsson big time.

Teams also are more happy to sit back and deny us the chance to hit them on the break.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

Our midfield 'squad' when we went up was Gunnarson, Ralls, Damour, Bryson, Grujiic, plus the wingers, Mendez-Laing and Hoilett. But the big difference is those central 5 which offered better options than we have this season

[J R Hartley]

If the squad is low on quality then it’s Warnocks fault given how much he’s had to spend ?!?!?

Jesus wept

[Eric the Half a Bee]

If the squad is low on quality then it’s Warnocks fault given how much he’s had to spend ?!?!?

Jesus wept

I agree. I think this is a worse side than the one that got promoted.

[Stavross1927]

Zohore for one. While he could often look languid and uninterested, Glatzel and Bogle are average in comparison to Zohore on an off day.

Whyte has no pace and no end product. Mendez-Laing took the division by storm when he started his City career. Hoilett, the only player at the club capable of good crosses is now an impact player to someone who threatens to do well (Murphy) but flatters to deceive.

We have no drive in the middle of the park and we miss Gunnarsson big time.

Teams also are more happy to sit back and deny us the chance to hit them on the break.

I must have missed something with Whyte, as yes his final ball has been pretty poor but he doesn’t lack pace.

[Wolfmother]

Getting the best out of!!?? He built the damn thing..

[thehumblegringo]

If the squad is low on quality then it’s Warnocks fault given how much he’s had to spend ?!?!?

Jesus wept

I'm glad you're here to cut through the bull shit mate. You cannot compare the resources he's had to build a squad in 2019 to what he had in 2017. We all accepted we had to be a bit "creative" (probably the wrong word ) two years ago but there is simply no excuse for things like Paterson number 10 now!

[Pedro de la Rosa]

..today we only had Murphy, then Hoilett, who I'd consider to be 'quality' players with the ball at their feet. For me Ralls is the outstanding player on the pitch this season ; he covers every blade of grass and just doesn't stop, yet for the last 3 seasons I reckoned he was the weak link, which perhaps shows how lacking we are in midfield this season. Yet you could almost see Middlesbrough lose heart as the game went on. City stopped them all over the park and - as is so typical of Warnock's side[s] - they created much more with much less of the ball. Having said that, I don't think this midfield is going to push us into the top 6. Maybe with Pack for Paterson with Tomlin as an impact player they could. And hopefully Vaulks will play a part, too. 11 players all doing the jobs the manager has given them, will be a hard side to beat..

All of this reads as Warnock needs a director of football. He's had 6 windows to get this right and the last good one was the summer of 17/18. Every single time he's opened his wallet the player hasn't delivered. It is beyond a joke now.

[LeningradCowboy]

All of this reads as Warnock needs a director of football. He's had 6 windows to get this right and the last good one was the summer of 17/18. Every single time he's opened his wallet the player hasn't delivered. It is beyond a joke now.

Can you imagine Warnock working with a director of football?!

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Can you imagine Warnock working with a director of football?!

Not in a month of Sundays but the point still stands. Our recruitment has been a horror show.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

[QUOTE=Pedro de la Rosa;5007056] Not in a month of Sundays but the point still stands. Our recruitment has been a horror show.[QUOTE]

That sounds very 'Clockwork Orange'.

[Bald Barry Bastad]

All of this reads as Warnock needs a director of football. He's had 6 windows to get this right and the last good one was the summer of 17/18. Every single time he's opened his wallet the player hasn't delivered. It is beyond a joke now.

No it all reads this has to be his last season and pray our board get someone decent in!

[Pedro de la Rosa]

No it all reads this has to be his last season and pray our board get someone decent in!

Warnock is a decent manager and I'll defend his record here to the hilt. He's done a fantastic job in many areas. We all know, Warnock will decide his own fate to an extent and as long as we're competitive, Tan won't sack him as he trusts him. His signings, however, have been more miss than hit.

[the other bob wilson]

Warnock is a decent manager and I'll defend his record here to the hilt. He's done a fantastic job in many areas. We all know, Warnock will decide his own fate to an extent and as long as we're competitive, Tan won't sack him as he trusts him. His signings, however, have been more miss than hit.

Maybe, it's a brutal way to look at things, but all Neil Warnock has done is spend an awful lot of the club's money to get us a few places up the Championship table. I accept that getting us promoted was a bigger achievement than getting us relegated was a black mark against him, but, nonetheless, he has largely got away Scot free when it comes to our relegation.

For me, he has been a good first team manager up to a point, but he's done nothing as far as the levels below that go and that's why I hope no one at the club gives serious thought to the suggestion that he be given some sort of Director of Football role when he steps down from the manager's job.

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

Maybe, it's a brutal way to look at things, but all Neil Warnock has done is spend an awful lot of the club's money to get us a few places up the Championship table. I accept that getting us promoted was a bigger achievement than getting us relegated was a black mark against him, but, nonetheless, he has largely got away Scot free when it comes to our relegation.

For me, he has been a good first team manager up to a point, but he's done nothing as far as the levels below that go and that's why I hope no one at the club gives serious thought to the suggestion that he be given some sort of Director of Football role when he steps down from the manager's job.

That would be a disaster waiting, if it happened.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Maybe, it's a brutal way to look at things, but all Neil Warnock has done is spend an awful lot of the club's money to get us a few places up the Championship table. I accept that getting us promoted was a bigger achievement than getting us relegated was a black mark against him, but, nonetheless, he has largely got away Scot free when it comes to our relegation.

For me, he has been a good first team manager up to a point, but he's done nothing as far as the levels below that go and that's why I hope no one at the club gives serious thought to the suggestion that he be given some sort of Director of Football role when he steps down from the manager's job.

Perhaps but there's an awful lot of managers who haven't done that. I don't want him as DoF, and if this season does peter out, I'd want us to put a structure in place than can see us succeed post Warnock. It won't happen though, I just hope the new man isn't Blackwell.

[Joe Gillis]

Perhaps but there's an awful lot of managers who haven't done that. I don't want him as DoF, and if this season does peter out, I'd want us to put a structure in place than can see us succeed post Warnock. It won't happen though, I just hope the new man isn't Blackwell.

Blackwell will be nailed on, he's cheap

[NYCBlue]

Maybe, it's a brutal way to look at things, but all Neil Warnock has done is spend an awful lot of the club's money to get us a few places up the Championship table. I accept that getting us promoted was a bigger achievement than getting us relegated was a black mark against him, but, nonetheless, he has largely got away Scot free when it comes to our relegation.

For me, he has been a good first team manager up to a point, but he's done nothing as far as the levels below that go and that's why I hope no one at the club gives serious thought to the suggestion that he be given some sort of Director of Football role when he steps down from the manager's job.

The entire club was unprepared, and as the senior football man at the club I feel the blame lies mostly with him and that he should be held accountable. He (publicly at least) declared he was satisfied with the squad when it was pretty obvious to everyone else that we were doomed before we started. I don't understand why the owner, the board and the fans seem happy to let this slide.