English voters in Wales tilted it towards Brexit

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I know it's a politics thread but it's more likely to have a bit of a life here before it gets moved

It always did seem strange to me that Wales voted out, new research might explain why

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...rexit-research

[LeningradCowboy]

Not many English 'settlers' living in Blaenau Gwent and Torfaen, which voted 60% to leave.

[Kind of Blue]

Not many English 'settlers' living in Blaenau Gwent and Torfaen, which voted 60% to leave.

Broadly agree with you but you'd be surprised. I grew up in a pretty much rural area of Blaenau Gwent with the street I lived on leading into Powys. Both of my parents neighbours there now are English retirees, moved to the area because they got more bang for their buck than moving a few minutes up the road to say Crickhowell. They go on multiple holidays a year and live pretty much in the Brecon Beacons.

Don't know how they voted tbf but one of the households would have most definitely voted for Brexit.

[LeningradCowboy]

Apparently, some parts of Wales are more 'genuinely Welsh' than others.

[G rangetown Blue]

I think it’s probably got more to do with the fact that we have a high proportion of uneducated people in Wales, who are unfortunately eligible to vote.

[ToTaL ITK]

I think it’s probably got more to do with the fact that we have a high proportion of uneducated people in Wales, who are unfortunately eligible to vote.

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[sneggyblubird]

I think it’s probably got more to do with the fact that we have a high proportion of uneducated people in Wales, who are unfortunately eligible to vote.

Christ.they'd be queueing up to give you a verbal bashing on the other forum.

[Maurice Swan]

I think it’s probably got more to do with the fact that we have a high proportion of uneducated people in Wales, who are unfortunately eligible to vote.

Don't be so patronising...the whole of Wales voted to LEAVE!!!

[xsnaggle]

I think it’s probably got more to do with the fact that we have a high proportion of uneducated people in Wales, who are unfortunately eligible to vote.

Are you suggesting that uneducated shouldn't be allowed to vote? some may think if you applied that across the board there would never be another labour government.
And what criteria would you use to determine what you consider is a proportionate level of education?
It's just too silly

[Gofer Blue]

I think it’s probably got more to do with the fact that we have a high proportion of uneducated people in Wales, who are unfortunately eligible to vote.

Wow!

[Jimmy the Jock]

And Scottish ....... Freedom.......

[life on mars]

I know it's a politics thread but it's more likely to have a bit of a life here before it gets moved

It always did seem strange to me that Wales voted out, new research might explain why

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...rexit-research

I'd like to see this broken down by towns , as I thought the majority of English folk live and like the more rural posher bordrer areas of Wales , and I suspect a lot of Brexit votes were from old Labour heartlands valley communities .

Isn't that why Farage is targeting Wales??
as he suspects theres more Labour Welsh Voters to be had than the small percentage of English retirees.

[life on mars]

Not many English 'settlers' living in Blaenau Gwent and Torfaen, which voted 60% to leave.

And I think Caerphilly leaning Brexit must be hiding thier English maruders in the castle and just letting them out for elections 😂

[Divine Wright]

And I think Caerphilly leaning Brexit must be hiding thier English maruders in the castle and just letting them out for elections 😂

Loads of daily mailers in Caerffili. If you write something in a tabloid newspaper, it’ll be believed by a lot of people in the valleys.

That said, an amount of english immigrants move to wales to get away from brown people. This type of people vote leave.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Loads of daily mailers in Caerffili. If you write something in a tabloid newspaper, it’ll be believed by a lot of people in the valleys.

Without a doubt.

Once the EU promised legislation to clamp down on tax avoidance, much of Britain's press strongly pursued the idea of getting out of the EU by fabricating a load of nonsense that appealed to lots of idiots.

Most of the press is owned by billionaire serial tax avoiders. There's a coincidence.

[Dorcus]

Christ.they'd be queueing up to give you a verbal bashing on the other forum.

All the uneducated and unwashed are on the other forum. I left it long ago, it was doing my head in. They've got some right beauties to be fair.

[Wales-Bales]

It's the Guardian, so it's just more remain bollocks!

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Don't be so patronising...the whole of Wales voted to LEAVE!!!

I didn't. I also didn't vote for medicine shortages, people to lose their jobs, livelihoods, security and freedoms. Sadly, I'm seeing rising numbers of Brexiters who are happy for suffering so long as we leave. The argument was that we'd be better off out of the EU, to we'll be ok, to we don't know but we might be alright, to a bit of suffering won't hurt anyone as we survived the war, to not giving a shit if people are affected.

Whatever your opinions on Brexit, to happily accept suffering by others is utterly despicable.

[Wales-Bales]

I didn't. I also didn't vote for medicine shortages, people to lose their jobs, livelihoods, security and freedoms. Sadly, I'm seeing rising numbers of Brexiters who are happy for suffering so long as we leave. The argument was that we'd be better off out of the EU, to we'll be ok, to we don't know but we might be alright, to a bit of suffering won't hurt anyone as we survived the war, to not giving a shit if people are affected.

Whatever your opinions on Brexit, to happily accept suffering by others is utterly despicable.

'effin 'ell

[Eric the Half a Bee]

'effin 'ell

Glad you find the possiblity of people being worse off after Brexit amusing.

[Wales-Bales]

Glad you find the possiblity of people being worse off after Brexit amusing.

I'm just amused by the way you present conjecture as fact. I'd even go as far to say that your rhetoric has more than a hint of project fear to it!

[Eric the Half a Bee]

I'm just amused by the way you present conjecture as fact. I'd even go as far to say that your rhetoric has more than a hint of project fear to it!

Ok, I'll rephrase.

There are Brexiters who couldn't care less about the possibility of others losing jobs, their livelihoods etc. You cannot be 100% sure that everything will be absolutely fine from the moment we leave, so you are prepared to run the risk of people being worse off etc.

[az city]

I'm just amused by the way you present conjecture as fact. I'd even go as far to say that your rhetoric has more than a hint of project fear to it!

It isn't "conjecture". It is the reasonable assessment of experts in each field.

[Elwood Blues]

I didn't. I also didn't vote for medicine shortages, people to lose their jobs, livelihoods, security and freedoms. Sadly, I'm seeing rising numbers of Brexiters who are happy for suffering so long as we leave. The argument was that we'd be better off out of the EU, to we'll be ok, to we don't know but we might be alright, to a bit of suffering won't hurt anyone as we survived the war, to not giving a shit if people are affected.

Whatever your opinions on Brexit, to happily accept suffering by others is utterly despicable.

But do we know there will be medicine shortages.

As I pointed out in the Operation Yellowhammer thread taking insulin as an example there shouldn't be given the long storage life and a bit of foresight.

Mind you you sneered at my knowledge then and never acknowledge my response so I am not holding my breath for a reply!

Oh and as I said on that thread I voted Remain as well

[Eric the Half a Bee]

But do we know there will be medicine shortages.

As I pointed out in the Operation Yellowhammer thread taking insulin as an example there shouldn't be given the long storage life and a bit of foresight.

Mind you you sneered at my knowledge then and never acknowledge my response so I am not holding my breath for a reply!

Oh and as I said on that thread I voted Remain as well

We don't know that there won't be. NHS chiefs have told people to be aware of the possibility.

Whether it happens or not after Brexit, there are still plenty of morons out there who will happily take that risk. I don't understand why.