Reply With QuoteUse your own insults 😁Originally Posted by rudy gestede
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So you genuinely think the country is worse off because fewer people go to church?
And think kids are worse off just because their parents don’t have a piece of paper saying they’re married?
Use your own insults 😁
People have different opinions Rudy....get a grip and move on, you just believe you are correct right? So just let it be.....
They're valid questions, aren't they? I was a little surprised at Organ's initial post, didn't think people held that bring back church going view anymore.
I’m just asking, this is a discussion board isn’t it?
This board is so sensitive you can’t even question someone’s opinion any more.
Are you 6?
Yup...just like in society in general.....
Are you a stalker?
Dunno mate but I’d imagine a staled would comment on more than 3 posts you did.
Stop crying, it’ll be alright.
Are you a Staled?
Your replies are stale.
Enjoy the rest of your weekend 👍
I wasn't calling for a return of that religion per se, rather the greater cohesiveness of former times on which it was built. British society had certain norms and practices (culture). The central pillar of that, in my opinion, was/is the family structure which with few exceptions once consisted of married men and women who lived together, and sprog dropping didn't commence until they had walked down an aisle - let's call it the Christian way. Then in the 80s armies of young women caught on that the state was promoting the weakening of what was the traditional family unit through the benefits system. That ultra liberalism gave the message that they could monetise their womb to become wholly reliant on everyone else via a raft of welfare payments that included a free council property thrown in and with it an element of independence, and all for getting knocked-up. A great many chose to reach for the dependency carrot as a way to dodge the 9-5 grind while those who sought a better standard of living, and rose at the crack of dawn, were compelled to pay for their lifestyle choice.
Today there's 2nd and sometimes 3rd generation underclass (chavs) all over, so many of whom appear to have no respect for anyone or anything. I daresay other factors such as dumbing-down, easy accessibility to cheap drugs and internet pornography, celebrity worship, almost a decade of austerity policies, rampant decadence and permissiveness is at play, but I'll maintain the prime reason is fractured families and lousy nurturing due to no, occasional or feckless father figures providing guidance.
It's a lovely Peter Hitchens-esque picture you paint, Organ, but it's a little snobby and you've heaped on the generalisations.
Those traditional family values and theistic doctrines were often oppressive and miserable for many, especially women. Also, single parent families often bring up their kids to be well-adjusted, good people and there are plenty of spoilt, selfish layabouts from further up the ladder. I'm sure you know this.
I grew up in a working class environment and can think of one woman who was said to have planned for a pregnancy and council house and everyone ran her down for it. There certainly weren't "armies" of women doing this and I doubt there still are. I know of other women whose partners absconded and they could be more disciplined with their kids than most, not wanting their kids to make the same mistakes.
Also, the list in the final paragraph applies to everyone. Perhaps decades of pitching everyone against each other makes us sneer all the more.
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