If I was vindictive for placing someone on ignore for calling you a rapist apologist and then dissembling rather than apologising then guilty as charged!Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
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If I was vindictive for placing someone on ignore for calling you a rapist apologist and then dissembling rather than apologising then guilty as charged!
He uses the term "brainwashing". Using climate change as an example, as a lefty with solar panels on the roof of my house and designs on getting an electric car when they come down in price, I suppose it's no surprise that I'm completely supportive of what is being done by a largely, but not exclusively, young group of people in London this week. Possibly, I am being brainwashed to an extent in thinking like I do, but I would prefer it to be described as being more willing to accept what I'm told when it fits in with my persona.
However, I would say that it is a fact that when you hear someone disputing or denying something like global warning, you know full well what their opinions on other matters are going to be because they all belong to the same tribe. If those on the left are guilty of being brainwashed, then the same surely applies to those on the right who "follow the party line" - Gluey posted a video by David Icke (yes folks, that's David Icke!) as if he was some leading authority on climate change a few weeks ago!
But only one group can be right. For example, climate change cannot exist and not exist at the same time
PS Icke has said some interesting things, it's not all lizards and aliens! You just need the ability to process multiple sources of information and then know how to collate the results. Relying on a person at the Guardian to do this for you is a fatal mistake
,But only one group can be right. For example, climate change cannot exist and not exist at the same time
PS Icke has said some interesting things, it's not all lizards and aliens! You just need the ability to process multiple sources of information and then know how to collate the results. Relying on a person at the Guardian to do this for you is a fatal mistake
So you believe everything you read on certain alt right sites and you're an independent thinker, I sometimes question what I see in the Guardian and on the BBC website and I'm brainwashed? I see.
I don't read alt right sites. I follow an equal number of left/right journalists, politicians and social commentators on Twitter, including lardy's favourite ones.
And yet so many of the things you post on here come off Alt right sites. What you say doesn't reflect the point I was making though, even if you did read all of the stuff you claim to do -, you, without fail, come to the same anti globalist conclusions, whereas I am at least capable of sometimes being critical of the people and organisations I generally support and yet I'm the one who is brainwashed?
What I have posted will become mainstream news, I am just ahead of the curve. We already know that everything lardy posted on the subject was a load of rubbish. Once the truth is revealed, I will be vindicated.
That's a lot of nonsense. You can't possibly relate all these historic events to socialism and to try to do that shows a misunderstanding of the concept. Mostly these people wanted equality ,freedom and representation, which is quite contrary to socialism with its all powerful state and destruction of the individual, together with his religious and racial identity, and his ability to succeed or excel .
I doubt whether anyone has read Marx over and over because it's so boring, but if what you say is correct then you should read some other stuff too. Since you like lefties so much check out Trotsy's views of socialism and anti semitism.
If you read Mein Kampf you'll see that Adolf says some pretty similar stuff about Jews , as did Stalin ,and that's because it's the default position of socialists. As with labour today, there's always an excuse or qualification for anti semitism , ( the Jews are clever people but they are a danger to Germany because they trade with the enemy ..... It's not the Jews we hate, but the actions of the Israeli government against Arab Moslems we also invade and bomb ......)
Dress it up however you like. It comes down to the same evil thing and ,unlike the stuff we ban and make a fuss about today, it is genuinely dangerous to many human beings. I don't accuse you of wanting another hollocaust because I'm sure you don't understand what your dealing with - nor did the mass of people in Germany who fell for it , but it's no less dangerous or wicked for any of that.
I never said anything of the sort, what I did say was that it was logically implied!
Excuse me, you did.
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