So, was Emiliano insured by either club at the time?
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So, was Emiliano insured by either club at the time?
It now looks like that article isn't correct and we have to pay the first installment in full, as that's what Nantes have complained about and we're having to pay the full sum.
Wasn't there a suggestion or attempt to inflate Sala's fee, I seem to remember a market value being around this mark before we had the isual agents value spin and stories of a hosts of clubs pursing the lad .
Does the agent still get his fee ??
To me it sounds like we have to pay the first installment no because we have passed the date when it had to be paid. I think this means we will have to pay the whole thing, unless some of it was performance based.
I see. I took it to mean that 5 mil was the totality of what they were getting. But then I don't pretend to have read it in any detail. Your version makes more senseOriginally Posted by Baloo
The quotes from the clubs would suggest that Nantes thinks this means that they are due the full amount whereas we seem less sure.
I read it and was quite surprised to come on here and see people think this meant that a compromise had been found and the first instalment was all we would pay.
My first impression was FIFA have said we have to pay the first instalment as the date has gone for that- then we will have to pay the 2nd and 3rd instalments aswell. Then it is for us to work it out with the insurers if we get anything back or not. That seems fair to me.
https://twitter.com/martynziegler/st...245472769?s=21 He reads it the same way as me- it’s the full £15 million or so we have to cough up.
as posted earlier in the thread, just goes to show that players really are just a commodity these days , how very sad
Surely if we were liable for the whole fee then that’s what uefa would have decided, it wouldn’t just be one instalment now and then another 10 million to follow? It’s long overdue anyway, so surely they would have said 15 million if 15 million was due. What a mess, should have just given all the cash to his family. Surely someone is insured?
Apparently Nantes paid €1m for Sala.
We also know they purposely delayed the agreement as they “played” City for more money.
You can’t have it both ways. If we had selected and played Sala as soon as the flight landed FIFA would have hit us with a large fine for playing an illegible player.
City should pay something but Nantes should not receive 100% of the original fee.
I would like to see Sala’s family and charity get something.
The reason the club will want clarification is that the matter will not be in their hands.
Once a claim arises the club loses control of affairs. The insurers call all the shots. That's how it works.
Cardiff are insured. The insurers take over. The insurers decide whether to fight a claim not the club.
This is a tragic case but one worth studying.
Cardiff cannot just pay up even if they want to.
Of course if the insurance company (underwriting syndicate) say the club are not covered that's a different matter.
This case has ramifications for all clubs. The situation will reoccur in different circumstances.
So typically FIFA, they make a decision and nobody's sure what it is.
The club are asking for clarification on a statement? I find it hard to believe the first the club knew of the decision was the statement, and if it is then fifa just keep on giving.
It's a shit show, most clubs couldn't afford to just take a hit of 15m for a player who didn't kick a ball for them but all those clubs fans will demand we should, including near neighbours who have been happy when their clubs have scammed local businesses.
I wish we could have but appreciate we can't, particularly if there are valid reasons.
The club was never coming out of this well. I don't think nantes have at all acted well either. Salas family have been through so much yet keep their dignity. It's such a shame that for them this will drag on a while longer.
Why not? What have Nantes done wrong?
The one thing we do know, is that if we do end up paying in full, Tan will go after McKay.
And willy apparently said he will kill everyone at the club if his boys get brought up into it
Everyone????? Are we fans safe? This could get messy!
I have always felt that Cardiff have held back their transfers in the close season based on the outcome of this unfortunate enquiry.
They now have to decide to take out through the courts at an additional legislative costs of pay up.
As harsh as this sounds it’s business, and at the end of the day if he wasn’t our player then we shouldn’t pay. Harsh but true.
I’m sure his family will get money.
Why do you wish we’d paid it? So we don’t look bad? Not often anyone leaves these situations looking good, both sides had valid arguments. It is what it is.
I wish we'd paid it because of these
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He was our player. If what happened hadn't happened any registration issues or paperwork issues would have been ironed out without any of us knowing and he would have played a week later. Saying "yeah but TECHNICALLY he wasn't wasn't ours" once he died is a bit tasteless in my opinion.
I understand the financial reasons and that the club would have been led by the insurers and that 10 million is 10 million but personally I don't like it. It's something about the club that I'm not proud of and that's not going to change.
What’s Malky done now?
But isn't there also the problem of the usual add-ons to contracts like a part being payable after so many games and/or part payable if we didn't get relegated etc?
Things like this wiould affect the final cost shirley?
They would indeed, if there were any. I’d assume any performance-related add-ons would be null and void if the conditions weren’t met, but as none of us know what was in the contract, it’s impossible for any of us to know for sure what Nantes are legally owed.
I would have thought it went without saying that any appearance bonuses would probably be null and void.
I’d be surprised if Nantes started asking for them aswell to be honest.
The crucial matter is who’s player he was, if he was ours then we have to pay Nantes the transfer fee. Even Cardiff seem to accept that as the point they seem to be arguing is he wasn’t our player when the flight took off.
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