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    Boris accused of something that allegedly occurred 20 years ago.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...highs-20328199

    So what?

    Maybe I'm missing something here.

    I just don't get why this alleged action has any relevance, and why it is being aired in the media now.

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    Re: Boris accused of something that allegedly occurred 20 years ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by Forest Green Bluebird View Post
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...highs-20328199

    So what?

    Maybe I'm missing something here.

    I just don't get why this alleged action has any relevance, and why it is being aired in the media now.
    Probably for the Politics board but it is an interesting question on the Statute of Limitations for personal misdemeanour for those in public life.

    In 1984, 15 years before Johnson allegedly committed his groping, Jeremy Corbyn met two Irish Nationalists shortly after the Brighton Bombing;

    In 1999, Prince Andrew first formed relationship with Jeffery Epstein;

    In 2001, Justin Trudeau browned his face in a way that his threatening his tenure as Prime Minister of Canada.

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    Re: Boris accused of something that allegedly occurred 20 years ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Probably for the Politics board but it is an interesting question on the Statute of Limitations for personal misdemeanour for those in public life.

    In 1984, 15 years before Johnson allegedly committed his groping, Jeremy Corbyn met two Irish Nationalists shortly after the Brighton Bombing;

    In 1999, Prince Andrew first formed relationship with Jeffery Epstein;

    In 2001, Justin Trudeau browned his face in a way that his threatening his tenure as Prime Minister of Canada.
    I thought of putting it on the politics board, but this is another example of someone being accused long after the event.

    Twenty, thirty, forty years ago ... it does not really matter. If there was a grievance at the time then it should have been dealt with then, no matter who the suspect is.

    To bring it up now to discredit a public figure is i.m.o. pathetic.

    I wonder how many other people will now jump on the band-wagon and make (possibly false) accusations?

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    Re: Boris accused of something that allegedly occurred 20 years ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Probably for the Politics board but it is an interesting question on the Statute of Limitations for personal misdemeanour for those in public life.

    In 1984, 15 years before Johnson allegedly committed his groping, Jeremy Corbyn met two Irish Nationalists shortly after the Brighton Bombing;

    In 1999, Prince Andrew first formed relationship with Jeffery Epstein;

    In 2001, Justin Trudeau browned his face in a way that his threatening his tenure as Prime Minister of Canada.
    This a really good watch.Who met who where and when and some of the bad things which went on both sides.reporter Peter Taylor reflects on almost a half century of covering the Northern Ireland conflict.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0007pb4

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    Re: Boris accused of something that allegedly occurred 20 years ago.

    It's because the woman in question has got a new job in the newspaper and wants to sell copies.
    She was gossip coloumist for the standard for 20years nothing was mentioned before now.

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    Re: Boris accused of something that allegedly occurred 20 years ago.

    This has got absolutely nothing to do with Brexit, nothing at all, and the timing of it is pure coincidence.

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    Re: Boris accused of something that allegedly occurred 20 years ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    This has got absolutely nothing to do with Brexit, nothing at all, and the timing of it is pure coincidence.
    Bollox, he's a fat fingered pervert

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    Re: Boris accused of something that allegedly occurred 20 years ago.

    An abuse of power by someone who suddenly has a lot more power is surely newsworthy.
    Can't see anything coming from it though.

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    Re: Boris accused of something that allegedly occurred 20 years ago.

    Perhaps it’s got something to do with Johnson becoming PM and having morals that belong in the gutter.

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    Re: Boris accused of something that allegedly occurred 20 years ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    Perhaps it’s got something to do with Johnson becoming PM and having morals that belong in the gutter.
    Is the correct answer.

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    Re: Boris accused of something that allegedly occurred 20 years ago.

    All historic crimes need to be investigated and if found guilty they should be punished

    BUT

    lets be honest, it has come out now to damage him as PM, nothing more,nothing less, has just just remembered this incident ? ? ? ? if justice was important to her, why not make the allegations ALOT earlier

    The Justin Trudeau case is very interesting, If he wasnt so P.C / Liberal , the P.C / Liberal crowd would be all over this shouting for him to resign, but as he is one of them, not much is being said about it, Now imagine if he was slightly right of centre, can you imagine the uproar

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    Re: Boris accused of something that allegedly occurred 20 years ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by blue matt View Post
    All historic crimes need to be investigated and if found guilty they should be punished

    BUT

    lets be honest, it has come out now to damage him as PM, nothing more,nothing less, has just just remembered this incident ? ? ? ? if justice was important to her, why not make the allegations ALOT earlier

    The Justin Trudeau case is very interesting, If he wasnt so P.C / Liberal , the P.C / Liberal crowd would be all over this shouting for him to resign, but as he is one of them, not much is being said about it, Now imagine if he was slightly right of centre, can you imagine the uproar
    Not much is being said? He is being ripped mercilessly on Canadian /us Twitter.


    https://twitter.com/arishish/status/...811556866?s=19

    This one made me chuckle

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    Re: Boris accused of something that allegedly occurred 20 years ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by blue matt View Post
    All historic crimes need to be investigated and if found guilty they should be punished

    BUT

    lets be honest, it has come out now to damage him as PM, nothing more,nothing less, has just just remembered this incident ? ? ? ? if justice was important to her, why not make the allegations ALOT earlier

    The Justin Trudeau case is very interesting, If he wasnt so P.C / Liberal , the P.C / Liberal crowd would be all over this shouting for him to resign, but as he is one of them, not much is being said about it, Now imagine if he was slightly right of centre, can you imagine the uproar
    Interesting though that the source of this and the Jennifer Arcuri accusations both came from Rupert Murdoch's Sunday Times. Either its the demonstration of a free press (Murdoch spread betting?) or there is an agenda from one part of the Tory establishment elite by drip feeding dirt against another part of it!

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    Re: Boris accused of something that allegedly occurred 20 years ago.

    It upset her so much that she can"t remember whether it happened in the 90"s or early 2,000"s ?
    I am not defending Johnson but it sounds pretty fishy to me.

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    Re: Boris accused of something that allegedly occurred 20 years ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by headlight View Post
    It upset her so much that she can"t remember whether it happened in the 90"s or early 2,000"s ?
    I am not defending Johnson but it sounds pretty fishy to me.
    Or whether she was happy with the attention at the time?

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    Re: Boris accused of something that allegedly occurred 20 years ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by Forest Green Bluebird View Post
    Or whether she was happy with the attention at the time?
    Just to understand what you are saying as you seem to have moved on from "it happened a long time and why now"?

    You speculate that the person who says she was groped by the current Prime Minister kept it quiet for twenty years because she actually liked the attention??

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    Re: Boris accused of something that allegedly occurred 20 years ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Just to understand what you are saying as you seem to have moved on from "it happened a long time and why now"?

    You speculate that the person who says she was groped by the current Prime Minister kept it quiet for twenty years because she actually liked the attention??

    I wouldn't rule anything out.

    I'd prefer not to believe the word of anyone who is making unsubstantiated claims about an event that allegedly occurred 20 or so years ago.

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    Re: Boris accused of something that allegedly occurred 20 years ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by Forest Green Bluebird View Post
    I'd prefer not to believe the word of anyone who is making unsubstantiated claims about an event that allegedly occurred 20 or so years ago.
    I’d prefer not to believe the word of anyone who travels around the country on a big red bus with a massive lie written on the side of it while attempting to deceive the public, but each to their own.

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    Re: Boris accused of something that allegedly occurred 20 years ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by headlight View Post
    It upset her so much that she can"t remember whether it happened in the 90"s or early 2,000"s ?
    I am not defending Johnson but it sounds pretty fishy to me.
    Once when I was coming out of the grange-end, some pervert grabbed me from behind and forced his hand up between my legs. I can’t remember what game it was or what date it was but it happened. I’ve never forgotten it, it was scary, painful and distressing. I was young, I did not report it or tell anyone at the time.

    I could give you numerous occasions when men have touched me inappropriately over the years, I could tell you some of their names but I can’t remember the year it happened.

    When you are a young woman, and a man touches you inappropriately it’s very difficult to speak out about it.

    I have no doubt he did it, he has form.

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    Re: Boris accused of something that allegedly occurred 20 years ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by Auntie Andy View Post
    Once when I was coming out of the grange-end, some pervert grabbed me from behind and forced his hand up between my legs. I can’t remember what game it was or what date it was but it happened. I’ve never forgotten it, it was scary, painful and distressing. I was young, I did not report it or tell anyone at the time.

    I could give you numerous occasions when men have touched me inappropriately over the years, I could tell you some of their names but I can’t remember the year it happened.

    When you are a young woman, and a man touches you inappropriately it’s very difficult to speak out about it.

    I have no doubt he did it, he has form.
    What 'form' is that then ?

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    Re: Boris accused of something that allegedly occurred 20 years ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    What 'form' is that then ?
    The message I took from the post was one of sympathy that a girl/woman dedicated to Cardiff City had to suffer the indignity of a sexual assault at a game in silence but I guess looking for evidence to support the view that Boris Johnson has "form" is another way of viewing it.

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    Re: Boris accused of something that allegedly occurred 20 years ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    What 'form' is that then ?
    FFS he doesn’t know how many kids he has.

    And then there’s this.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics....conservatives

    Lovely boy our Boris

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    Re: Boris accused of something that allegedly occurred 20 years ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by Auntie Andy View Post
    Once when I was coming out of the grange-end, some pervert grabbed me from behind and forced his hand up between my legs. I can’t remember what game it was or what date it was but it happened. I’ve never forgotten it, it was scary, painful and distressing. I was young, I did not report it or tell anyone at the time.

    I could give you numerous occasions when men have touched me inappropriately over the years, I could tell you some of their names but I can’t remember the year it happened.

    When you are a young woman, and a man touches you inappropriately it’s very difficult to speak out about it.

    I have no doubt he did it, he has form.
    Only people of a certain age gets this thats why Saville and others got away with it for so long.Even someone like Janet Street Porter knew about Saville yet was too afraid to speak out because amongst other things knew it would have been the end of her career.

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    Re: Boris accused of something that allegedly occurred 20 years ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by Auntie Andy View Post
    Once when I was coming out of the grange-end, some pervert grabbed me from behind and forced his hand up between my legs. I can’t remember what game it was or what date it was but it happened. I’ve never forgotten it, it was scary, painful and distressing. I was young, I did not report it or tell anyone at the time.

    I could give you numerous occasions when men have touched me inappropriately over the years, I could tell you some of their names but I can’t remember the year it happened.

    When you are a young woman, and a man touches you inappropriately it’s very difficult to speak out about it.

    I have no doubt he did it, he has form.
    My wife has experienced the same thing, whether out with friends and once when she was with me. It's a disgrace that some men think that they can do this to women, it's threatening and abusive, well done on speaking up about it. I don't think that it's gone away, some men can't be educated.

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    Re: Boris accused of something that allegedly occurred 20 years ago.

    As I said I am in no way defending him but it does seem a bit iffy that she has waited 20 years, or more, considering he has been in the public eye for a long time, & has only mentioned it now that he is PM & can"t even remember when it happened as she can only narrow it down to it happened sometime in a 5-10 year period.

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