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Thread: We miss Joe Ralls badly

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    We miss Joe Ralls badly

    and Jazz

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    Re: We miss Joe Ralls badly

    Quote Originally Posted by dandywarhol View Post
    and Jazz
    Which says an awful lot about the quality and ability of our current team

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    Re: We miss Joe Ralls badly

    Ralls is a very good player , can't comment on Jazz , as he is never around for judgement .

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    Re: We miss Joe Ralls badly

    Don't rate Ralls at all, and never have. Average at best.

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    Re: We miss Joe Ralls badly

    Quote Originally Posted by tforturton View Post
    Don't rate Ralls at all, and never have. Average at best.
    Been our best player this season

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    Re: We miss Joe Ralls badly

    Quote Originally Posted by tforturton View Post
    Don't rate Ralls at all, and never have. Average at best.
    :-0

    Not a Ronaldo but easily our best and most consistent player.

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    Re: We miss Joe Ralls badly

    Quote Originally Posted by DubaiDai View Post
    Which says an awful lot about the quality and ability of our current team
    Or that Ralls is a really good player at this level?

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    Re: We miss Joe Ralls badly

    Ralls has been our best player this season. We are missing him.

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    Re: We miss Joe Ralls badly

    Ralls is a good player at this level. Struggled a bit in the premier league but was one of our best and most consistent performers in the promotion season also.

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    Re: We miss Joe Ralls badly

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    Or that Ralls is a really good player at this level?
    Ralls is too one-paced. If he had a burst of speed about him he'd be very good at this level. As it is, I think he'd struggle to break into a lot of the top teams' midfields in this division. His passing needs to improve too. He has arguably been our best player so far this season, but in fairness, there's a lot of mediocrity in the team.

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    Re: We miss Joe Ralls badly

    Ralls is very good at this level and, although he didn't find it as easy to deal with as I thought he would, didn't do as badly as many say he did in the Premier League - he always should be one of the first names on the team sheet at this level.

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    Re: We miss Joe Ralls badly

    Quote Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five View Post
    Ralls is too one-paced. If he had a burst of speed about him he'd be very good at this level. As it is, I think he'd struggle to break into a lot of the top teams' midfields in this division. His passing needs to improve too. He has arguably been our best player so far this season, but in fairness, there's a lot of mediocrity in the team.
    Agreed.

    Sadly pace isnít something that Warnock values. Iím not just talking about going forward but also at the back... we are such a slow team... and it looks like players who have a little pace are playing with lead weights in their boots

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    Re: We miss Joe Ralls badly

    Quote Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five View Post
    Ralls is too one-paced. If he had a burst of speed about him he'd be very good at this level. As it is, I think he'd struggle to break into a lot of the top teams' midfields in this division. His passing needs to improve too. He has arguably been our best player so far this season, but in fairness, there's a lot of mediocrity in the team.
    He's got a great engine, breaks up play and links up well. He's got his flaws but he's at this level for a reason. I don't understand the Joe Ralls hate. Every season Joe Ralls gets injured, everything goes tits up.

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    Re: We miss Joe Ralls badly

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    He's got a great engine, breaks up play and links up well. He's got his flaws but he's at this level for a reason. I don't understand the Joe Ralls hate. Every season Joe Ralls gets injured, everything goes tits up.
    Where are you getting the "hate" thingy from? Hate is too strong a word, I'm trying to be objective.

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    Re: We miss Joe Ralls badly

    Quote Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five View Post
    Where are you getting the "hate" thingy from? Hate is too strong a word, I'm trying to be objective.
    He gets an incredible amount of stick, especially considering he's greatly missed whenever he's absent. There were posts recently saying "we'll never get promoted with Ralls in CM", despite the fact he was our best CM when we got up last time. It's not directed at yourself but it's odd.

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    Re: We miss Joe Ralls badly

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    Or that Ralls is a really good player at this level?
    But I very much doubt he would be an automatic starter in any of the top 6 sides.

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    Re: We miss Joe Ralls badly

    Quote Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five View Post
    Ralls is too one-paced. If he had a burst of speed about him he'd be very good at this level. As it is, I think he'd struggle to break into a lot of the top teams' midfields in this division. His passing needs to improve too. He has arguably been our best player so far this season, but in fairness, there's a lot of mediocrity in the team.
    Never really thought that pace was key for a central midfielder.

    Pace is normally more associated with wingers, full backs and strikers.

    Most top midfielders that come to mind for me are rated for their work rate, passing and tackling.

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    Re: We miss Joe Ralls badly

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    He gets an incredible amount of stick, especially considering he's greatly missed whenever he's absent. There were posts recently saying "we'll never get promoted with Ralls in CM", despite the fact he was our best CM when we got up last time. It's not directed at yourself but it's odd.
    Very odd.

    His record in our promotion season was superb.

    Heís started this season well again and often has to play with injuries as he is so important to the team.

    Even last season he had to play through the pain and struggled.

    When he got fit and came back he did pretty well.

    Heís an all rounder, so never likely to be everyoneís cup of tea, but there arenít many like him around and every team ( at our level) needs one.

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    Re: We miss Joe Ralls badly

    Quote Originally Posted by Lawnmower View Post
    Never really thought that pace was key for a central midfielder.

    Pace is normally more associated with wingers, full backs and strikers.

    Most top midfielders that come to mind for me are rated for their work rate, passing and tackling.
    Given that midfielders such as Ralls are often needed to cover the back line then quickly turn defence into attack, then Iíd have thought that pace would be important for them as well.

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    Re: We miss Joe Ralls badly

    Quote Originally Posted by DubaiDai View Post
    But I very much doubt he would be an automatic starter in any of the top 6 sides.
    He was a starter in the team that finished second with 90 points 2 years ago.

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    Re: We miss Joe Ralls badly

    Quote Originally Posted by Optimistic Nick View Post
    He was a starter in the team that finished second with 90 points 2 years ago.
    Whatever happened to them?

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    Re: We miss Joe Ralls badly

    Without Ralls we look like we arent playing with a midfield .
    QPR and West Brom strolled through our midfield .
    Hopefully Ralls is the solution to that problem or we are in trouble.

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    Re: We miss Joe Ralls badly

    Ralls is a top level championship midfield player, is underrated by some of our support yet is always missed when not in side and would get into the majority of the top teams in this league

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    Re: We miss Joe Ralls badly

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock View Post
    Without Ralls we look like we arent playing with a midfield .
    QPR and West Brom strolled through our midfield .
    Hopefully Ralls is the solution to that problem or we are in trouble.
    Yep. Noticeable that Bacuna hasn't played as well without Ralls alongside him.

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    Re: We miss Joe Ralls badly

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Ralls is very good at this level and, although he didn't find it as easy to deal with as I thought he would, didn't do as badly as many say he did in the Premier League - he always should be one of the first names on the team sheet at this level.
    I wasn't a great fan of Ralls in our promotion season. I thought he was the least able of our centre midfield players, but that squad included Bryson, Grujic, Damour, and of course Gunnarson. This season I reckon he's our stand-out player, which says a lot about our current options. I'm not jumping on the 'isn't Marlon Pack great' bandwagon just yet..

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    Re: We miss Joe Ralls badly

    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    I wasn't a great fan of Ralls in our promotion season. I thought he was the least able of our centre midfield players, but that squad included Bryson, Grujic, Damour, and of course Gunnarson. This season I reckon he's our stand-out player, which says a lot about our current options. I'm not jumping on the 'isn't Marlon Pack great' bandwagon just yet..
    Agree about Pack. It just goes to show how starved of a player who can put there foot on the ball we've been over the last few years or so. Same with 30 minute Tomlin-He really is finished at this level.

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    Re: We miss Joe Ralls badly

    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    I wasn't a great fan of Ralls in our promotion season. I thought he was the least able of our centre midfield players, but that squad included Bryson, Grujic, Damour, and of course Gunnarson. This season I reckon he's our stand-out player, which says a lot about our current options. I'm not jumping on the 'isn't Marlon Pack great' bandwagon just yet..
    There is little doubt that our midfield needs attention but I would prefer to continue through this season and let a new manager take a look.

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    Re: We miss Joe Ralls badly

    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    I wasn't a great fan of Ralls in our promotion season. I thought he was the least able of our centre midfield players, but that squad included Bryson, Grujic, Damour, and of course Gunnarson. This season I reckon he's our stand-out player, which says a lot about our current options. I'm not jumping on the 'isn't Marlon Pack great' bandwagon just yet..
    I thought in our promotion season he was our best CM. Obviously Grujic is more talented. I thought he was better than Gunner but can see someones point of view he was better. But Bryson and Damour better than Ralls. Come off it. No way.

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    Re: We miss Joe Ralls badly

    Both Ralls and Morrison seem to be underrated/get unfair stick from portions of our fanbase. Whenever they're missing we tend to fall apart

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    Re: We miss Joe Ralls badly

    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    Both Ralls and Morrison seem to be underrated/get unfair stick from portions of our fanbase. Whenever they're missing we tend to fall apart
    When Morrison was out last season we got on fine without him. I believe we would have stayed up if we continued with the Bamba/Manga pairing.

    Ralls is needed in the middle though, I think he balances us out quite nicely with Bacuna and Pack next to him

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