This is how Cardiff City should be run

[Pearcey3]

I find this sort of thing astonishing. What possible relevance does what happened in the 1990's have to how the football club is today? You might as well quote the 1920's. It makes about as much sense.

To provide a sense of perspective. Things could be a lot worse than they are right now. They have been in my lifetime. They improved during the turn of the century and the club have been on an upward path since. The club had gone down a bit following relegation but nothing too severe.

[The Lone Gunman]

To provide a sense of perspective. Things could be a lot worse than they are right now. They have been in my lifetime. They improved during the turn of the century and the club have been on an upward path since. The club had gone down a bit following relegation but nothing too severe.

To put things in perspective, the club was very well-established in the Championship, in a brand new stadium and averaging crowds of 20,000+ when it's current billionaire owner took control. The Nineties were a total irrelevance then and they are now.

[Pearcey3]

To put things in perspective, the club was very well-established in the Championship, in a brand new stadium and averaging crowds of 20,000+ when it's current billionaire owner took control. The Nineties were a total irrelevance then and they are now.

Yes and you had a shedload of debt too. You are financially far more stable as a club now than pre Tan.

[The Lone Gunman]

Yes and you had a shedload of debt too. You are financially far more stable as a club now than pre Tan.

That's a matter for debate.....

Regardless, the fact of the matter is that the club has been in either the Championship or the Premier League for the last 17 seasons. Indeed, the last time it finished in the bottom half of the Championship was 2006/07! Nevertheless, people still talk about the 1980's and 1990's in an attempt to deflect attention from the club's current situation. I just don't understand it.

[Pearcey3]

That's a matter for debate.....

Regardless, the fact of the matter is that the club has been in either the Championship or the Premier League for the last 17 seasons. Indeed, the last time it finished in the bottom half of the Championship was 2006/07! Nevertheless, people still talk about the 1980's and 1990's in an attempt to deflect attention from the club's current situation. I just don't understand it.

Ok. So you are saying the club are under-achieving?

[The Lone Gunman]

Ok. So you are saying the club are under-achieving?

I'd say it's too early in the season to be sure that's the case, but it looks that way at the moment.

What gets me is this continual desire people have to look back to a period that is now a total irrelevance in the same way that the 1970's and the 1960's are a total irrelevance. In a post about Warnock's abysmal brand of football last week, one contributor started wittering on about FA Cup tries against Enfield and Hayes! He was talking about a club that ended last season with a Premier League victory at Old Trafford!

[Croesy Blue]

Ok. So you are saying the club are under-achieving?

I'd say we aren't building on a very good opportunity. We are standing still in terms of youth development, player acquisition and planning for the next manager.

[Tuerto]

Ok. So you are saying the club are under-achieving?

The problem as i see it is that as a club we lack skills in every department. We don't promote youth, we are shit in the transfer market, play a brand of football that is based on getting the ball up front as quickly as possible because that's where the goal is, and a manager whose plucky billy brit, roll up yer sleeves ignorance is wearing very thin. He should have gone at the end of last season. I can guarantee that the club hasn't put anything in place for his successor.

[the other bob wilson]

Ok. So you are saying the club are under-achieving?

Surely, the answer to that question is to compare our current league position with where most pundits had us finishing when the predictions were being made back in August? As Dave says, it is too early to say we are definitely destined for a mid table finish, but we are past the ten game phase that it is generally held to be the time when the table starts to take shape and the worrying thing for me is that we certainly haven't resembled a potential top two side in any of our games so far and I would argue we haven't looked like a likely top six outfit yet either, so, yes, I would say we're under achieving.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

That's a matter for debate.....

Regardless, the fact of the matter is that the club has been in either the Championship or the Premier League for the last 17 seasons. Indeed, the last time it finished in the bottom half of the Championship was 2006/07! Nevertheless, people still talk about the 1980's and 1990's in an attempt to deflect attention from the club's current situation. I just don't understand it.

You don't understand it because unlike me , you are dull