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Thread: Players you rated but seemed to divide opinion?

  1. #31

    Re: Players you rated but seemed to divide opinion?

    Alan Knill

    Eddie May signed him on loan in 1993 as he was good in the air

    Legendary kit man Harry Parsons disagreed 'Douglas Bader was good in the air too but he was a sh1t footballer just like Knill'

    I really hope this tale is true as Knill was sh1t

    Other players who we have fond memories of but really weren't that good
    Jason Perry
    Nicky Richardson
    Steve Lynex
    I always liked Steve White but he wasn't much cop in reality.

  2. #32

    Re: Players you rated but seemed to divide opinion?

    I am one of those who is on the 'wrong' side of the McPhail divide, clever player good technical ability but he has been so over hyped since he stopped playing for us. Yes he was a good championship midfielder but I have seen some people say (on here) he is the best player they have seen at Cardiff and have even seen some put him into Cardiff all-time-X11 teams, I think that's a joke but football is all about opinions I guess!

  3. #33

    Re: Players you rated but seemed to divide opinion?

    Quote Originally Posted by binman View Post
    Alan Knill

    Eddie May signed him on loan in 1993 as he was good in the air

    Legendary kit man Harry Parsons disagreed 'Douglas Bader was good in the air too but he was a sh1t footballer just like Knill'

    I really hope this tale is true as Knill was sh1t.
    Although, didn't Alan Knill win one cap for Wales against the Netherlands and played Marco Van Basten out of the game ?

  4. #34

    Re: Players you rated but seemed to divide opinion?

    And I would just like to re-illiterate Aron Gunners,

    I find the CDM position a funny one, some people are just blind to the value of those players, but the amount of un-seen work they do that allows others to play good football is huge. Like your Kevin Nolan's and Scot Parker's. Everyone says what do they do? they do not score regular, passing is limited and not graced with technical ability or skill.. yet the team wins when they play and falls apart when they do not.

  5. #35

    Re: Players you rated but seemed to divide opinion?

    Quote Originally Posted by binman View Post
    Alan Knill

    Eddie May signed him on loan in 1993 as he was good in the air

    Legendary kit man Harry Parsons disagreed 'Douglas Bader was good in the air too but he was a sh1t footballer just like Knill'

    I really hope this tale is true as Knill was sh1t

    Other players who we have fond memories of but really weren't that good
    Jason Perry
    Nicky Richardson
    Steve Lynex
    I always liked Steve White but he wasn't much cop in reality.
    Perry and Richardson did good jobs for us.

    Steve Lynex was absolutely useless. I doubt anyone who saw him play for us would say anything else.

  6. #36

    Re: Players you rated but seemed to divide opinion?

    Quote Originally Posted by chris lee View Post
    And I would just like to re-illiterate Aron Gunners,

    I find the CDM position a funny one, some people are just blind to the value of those players, but the amount of un-seen work they do that allows others to play good football is huge. Like your Kevin Nolan's and Scot Parker's. Everyone says what do they do? they do not score regular, passing is limited and not graced with technical ability or skill.. yet the team wins when they play and falls apart when they do not.
    Kevin Nolan scored more than his fair share of goals.

  7. #37

    Re: Players you rated but seemed to divide opinion?

    I always thought Steve Williams was a better keeper than Dave Williams in the early 90s

  8. #38

    Re: Players you rated but seemed to divide opinion?

    QUOTE=chris lee;5011202]And I would just like to re-illiterate Aron Gunners,

    [/QUOTE]
    Bit of a slur on the Icelandic education system:

  9. #39

    Re: Players you rated but seemed to divide opinion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Enoch Mort View Post
    Although, didn't Alan Knill win one cap for Wales against the Netherlands and played Marco Van Basten out of the game ?
    Considering his limited abilities, Knill has had an impressive career. 564 Football League appearances with Halifax, Swansea, Bury, Cardiff, Rotherham and Scunny, then manager at Rotherham, Scunny, Bury and Torquay, and currently a Premier League assistant manager at Sheffield United.

  10. #40

    Re: Players you rated but seemed to divide opinion?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Considering his limited abilities, Knill has had an impressive career. 564 Football League appearances with Halifax, Swansea, Bury, Cardiff, Rotherham and Scunny, then manager at Rotherham, Scunny, Bury and Torquay, and currently a Premier League assistant manager at Sheffield United.
    My god that's woken me up

  11. #41

    Re: Players you rated but seemed to divide opinion?

    Quote Originally Posted by severncity View Post
    Could someone explain the hatred directed towards Richard Langley? Iíve never known such venom to be aimed at any player from his teamís supporters. As far as I know he was deemed to be lazy. I felt really sorry for him.
    I was enjoying reading this post and wasn't really thinking about posting until I read this! Why did he get such abuse. I really rated him and yet I know many didn't and he got dogs abuse. We were away from home somewhere - can't remember where - and his missus / girlfriend were sitting near us and the level of slagging off was embarrassing. But genuinely thought he was a gifted player. As for whitts, utter legend.

  12. #42

    Re: Players you rated but seemed to divide opinion?

    Quote Originally Posted by chris lee View Post
    And I would just like to re-illiterate Aron Gunners,

    I find the CDM position a funny one, some people are just blind to the value of those players, but the amount of un-seen work they do that allows others to play good football is huge. Like your Kevin Nolan's and Scot Parker's. Everyone says what do they do? they do not score regular, passing is limited and not graced with technical ability or skill.. yet the team wins when they play and falls apart when they do not.
    Kevin Nolan wasn’t a DM?? Scored loads of goals.

    Parker’s technical and passing ability was far from limited.

    What a bizarre couple of examples to use.

  13. #43

    Re: Players you rated but seemed to divide opinion?

    Quote Originally Posted by ManBearPig View Post
    I always thought Steve Williams was a better keeper than Dave Williams in the early 90s
    Arguing over which was the better of the two Williams keepers is akin to two bald blokes arguing over a comb.

  14. #44

    Re: Players you rated but seemed to divide opinion?

    Darcy Blake. he used to get some flak yet at times he could have some immense moments.

  15. #45

    Re: Players you rated but seemed to divide opinion?

    John Toshack. Even when he was banging in goals for fun and unplayable in the air from crosses, many fans didn't rate him because he was so gangly and not as physical as Brian Clark. The fact that his ball control was good and he seldom wasted a pass was lost on many fans.

  16. #46

    Re: Players you rated but seemed to divide opinion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moodybluebird View Post
    John Toshack. Even when he was banging in goals for fun and unplayable in the air from crosses, many fans didn't rate him because he was so gangly and not as physical as Brian Clark. The fact that his ball control was good and he seldom wasted a pass was lost on many fans.
    Very true, Tosh used to get a lot of stick, crazy looking back, he was undeniably class, as he showed in his subsequent career.

  17. #47

    Re: Players you rated but seemed to divide opinion?

    Quote Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2 View Post
    Darcy Blake. he used to get some flak yet at times he could have some immense moments.

    Had a great game at Wembley marking Rooney.

  18. #48

    Re: Players you rated but seemed to divide opinion?

    Quote Originally Posted by blueblade View Post
    Craig Conway
    Paul Brayson
    Kevin Evans
    Craig Bryson
    Jimmy Gardner
    Jason Fowler
    I always thought at Jason Fowler was a really good player and never understood why he didnít go on and play at a higher level 🤔

  19. #49

    Re: Players you rated but seemed to divide opinion?

    John Lewis and Linden Jones.

    I always really liked both of them, for different reasons, only for them to leave the club in the most complex swap deal in the history of football :-(

  20. #50

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    Ken Zohore

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    Re: Players you rated but seemed to divide opinion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    I don't think he's played enough top level football to have an opinion.
    I managed to form an accurate opinion based upon what I saw

  22. #52

    Re: Players you rated but seemed to divide opinion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I managed to form an accurate opinion based upon what I saw
    I've only seen him play twice, how much first class football has he played?

  23. #53

    Re: Players you rated but seemed to divide opinion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I managed to form an accurate opinion based upon what I saw
    Tell you what he does do, points alot. Watch him point in the direction he feels the ball needs to go, his arms are more active than his legs

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    Re: Players you rated but seemed to divide opinion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    Tell you what he does do, points alot. Watch him point in the direction he feels the ball needs to go, his arms are more active than his legs
    With such an outstanding pointing technique, surely he is going to be a future captain of Chelsea and Wales? When he starts playing regularly he is going to be a major talent, so maybe the Welsh FA should apply to join the Premier League

  25. #55

    Re: Players you rated but seemed to divide opinion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Worcester View Post
    I was enjoying reading this post and wasn't really thinking about posting until I read this! Why did he get such abuse. I really rated him and yet I know many didn't and he got dogs abuse. We were away from home somewhere - can't remember where - and his missus / girlfriend were sitting near us and the level of slagging off was embarrassing. But genuinely thought he was a gifted player. As for whitts, utter legend.
    I’m willing to accept that my opinion was objectively wrong on Langley but, as you say, I can’t understand the anger and aggression directed towards him from “supporters”.

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