Prison Justice served ? ? ? return of the death sentence ? ? ?

[David Vincent]

It is proven to not be a deterrent. Do you think someone who’s thinking about murdering someone is in the state of mind where they think “better not do this I might get in trouble?”

Yes. Many killers are completely rational. They work out the costs and benefits of killing before they do it. The ones who are insane or extremely stupid are not executed.

[lardy]

Yes. Many killers are completely rational. They work out the costs and benefits of killing before they do it. The ones who are insane or extremely stupid are not executed.

You think all criminals are born bad.

[David Vincent]

You think all criminals are born bad.

Yes. I think they are born with little or no conscience. When they work out the cost / benefits of their crimes any guilt they might feel about their crimes does not come into the equation. The fact that they are born with brains like that doesn't mean their criminality is determined. They can still choose to not be a criminal. It is just harder for them. It is a bit like someone with a very high testosterone level being more likely to rape someone than a man with a low testosterone level. He could choose not to rape.

[Croesy Blue]

Yes. I think they are born with little or no conscience. When they work out the cost / benefits of their crimes any guilt they might feel about their crimes does not come into the equation. The fact that they are born with brains like that doesn't mean their criminality is determined. They can still choose to not be a criminal. It is just harder for them. It is a bit like someone with a very high testosterone level being more likely to rape someone than a man with a low testosterone level. He could choose not to rape.

Sounds like you're talking about psychopaths rather than criminals. Most murders in the UK have motives (like crimes of passion, gang violence) they aren't cold bloded psychopaths calculating things like you're discussing, they're relatively rare.

[lardy]

Yes. I think they are born with little or no conscience. When they work out the cost / benefits of their crimes any guilt they might feel about their crimes does not come into the equation. The fact that they are born with brains like that doesn't mean their criminality is determined. They can still choose to not be a criminal. It is just harder for them. It is a bit like someone with a very high testosterone level being more likely to rape someone than a man with a low testosterone level. He could choose not to rape.

And you also believe it's hereditary.

Just establishing this so we can all give your opinions the credibility they deserve.