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    Re: Prison Justice served ? ? ? return of the death sentence ? ? ?

    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    Splotty??? Got me worried��
    I have a feeling David Vincent is Splott Dai but I could be wrong.

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    Re: Prison Justice served ? ? ? return of the death sentence ? ? ?

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    I have a feeling David Vincent is Splott Dai but I could be wrong.
    This is what happens when you go by feelings instead of evidence. I am not Splott Dai.

    When you look at all the evidence against Savile it is the relatively small number of accusers that surprises me. Let us say there are 100 known victims - I don't know if this is the real figure. How many different people did Savile meet in his career? Let's say 50 a week. That's probably on the conservative side. He did that for 55 years. That's 143,000 different people he met. If he was an uncontrolled sex pervert I would expect a far higher number of victims.

    Sometimes we are unduly influenced by the numbers we see in the papers. Here is a little puzzle for you. Suppose the police decide to do a breathalyzer test at 9.00 on a Sunday morning and they are stopping people completely randomly. They are not looking at your driving at all. Let us suppose they know from previous random tests during that time period 1 person in a 1000 will be driving drunk. Suppose that the breathalyzer test is 95% accurate - there is only a 5% false positive chance. That morning they have stopped 1000 drivers and you are one of them. You have failed the test. How likely is it that you are drunk?

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    Re: Prison Justice served ? ? ? return of the death sentence ? ? ?

    Quote Originally Posted by David Vincent View Post
    This is what happens when you go by feelings instead of evidence. I am not Splott Dai.

    When you look at all the evidence against Savile it is the relatively small number of accusers that surprises me. Let us say there are 100 known victims - I don't know if this is the real figure. How many different people did Savile meet in his career? Let's say 50 a week. That's probably on the conservative side. He did that for 55 years. That's 143,000 different people he met. If he was an uncontrolled sex pervert I would expect a far higher number of victims.

    Sometimes we are unduly influenced by the numbers we see in the papers. Here is a little puzzle for you. Suppose the police decide to do a breathalyzer test at 9.00 on a Sunday morning and they are stopping people completely randomly. They are not looking at your driving at all. Let us suppose they know from previous random tests during that time period 1 person in a 1000 will be driving drunk. Suppose that the breathalyzer test is 95% accurate - there is only a 5% false positive chance. That morning they have stopped 1000 drivers and you are one of them. You have failed the test. How likely is it that you are drunk?
    That's more accurate than eye witness evidence though. You're putting forward more arguments against the death penalty with every post.

    (95% accurate doesn't mean wrong 5% of the time btw, that would be 95% reliable. If it was 95% accuracy you would just build in a 10% error margin to counteract it)

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    Re: Prison Justice served ? ? ? return of the death sentence ? ? ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    That's more accurate than eye witness evidence though. You're putting forward more arguments against the death penalty with every post.

    (95% accurate doesn't mean wrong 5% of the time btw, that would be 95% reliable. If it was 95% accuracy you would just build in a 10% error margin to counteract it)
    This is just quick puzzle so forget the false negative. Just imagine there is only a false positive. What is the chance that you are really drunk?

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    Re: Prison Justice served ? ? ? return of the death sentence ? ? ?

    Quote Originally Posted by David Vincent View Post
    This is just quick puzzle so forget the false negative. Just imagine there is only a false positive. What is the chance that you are really drunk?
    I'd say with you there's a 100% chance

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    Re: Prison Justice served ? ? ? return of the death sentence ? ? ?

    Quote Originally Posted by David Vincent View Post
    This is just quick puzzle so forget the false negative. Just imagine there is only a false positive. What is the chance that you are really drunk?
    1 in 50

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    Re: Prison Justice served ? ? ? return of the death sentence ? ? ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    1 in 50
    Good. You've been stopped by the police and you've failed the 95% reliable breathalyzer test but it is very unlikely that you are drunk. That would surprise a lot of people.

    Now for an extra point can anyone see the relevance of my little puzzle to the Savile case.

    Also if anyone read the Anna Racoon article where she casts doubt on the complaint by Savile's relation has their confidence in Savile's guilt been diminished in any way, e.g. gone from 100% guilty to 99% guilty. If your belief in his guilt is just based on feelings and not evidence then I wouldn't expect any change.

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    Re: Prison Justice served ? ? ? return of the death sentence ? ? ?

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    I have a feeling David Vincent is Splott Dai but I could be wrong.
    Splott Dai was nutty but he wasn't this nutty was he? Ask David Vincent if he's ever been shot in the arse

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    Re: Prison Justice served ? ? ? return of the death sentence ? ? ?

    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    Splott Dai was nutty but he wasn't this nutty was he? Ask David Vincent if he's ever been shot in the arse
    Say "Zionism" 3 times while looking in the mirror and see if David Vincent appears behind you.

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