Prison Justice served ? ? ? return of the death sentence ? ? ?

[Rjk]

The death sentence for murder is essential for one reason : punishment must be at least as severe as the crime. If it is not societies collapse and that is what we are seeing today. Crime is rampant because punishments are weak.

Crime is not rampant, personal violence and murder have been declining for centuries broadly speaking.

Name one society that has collapsed that didn't have the death penalty?

[David Vincent]

Crime is not rampant, personal violence and murder have been declining for centuries broadly speaking.

Name one society that has collapsed that didn't have the death penalty?

If you don't think the UK has collapsed then you must be blind. Whatever the police figures for crime are you need to double or treble it to see the real figure. The police and politicians don't want you to know they have already given up fighting crime. The police just want to get their pensions ASAP so they can move to a safer country and the politicians are mainly crooks anyway so they are quite at home in a lawless cesspit.

[Croesy Blue]

If you don't think the UK has collapsed then you must be blind. Whatever the police figures for crime are you need to double or treble it to see the real figure. The police and politicians don't want you to know they have already given up fighting crime. The police just want to get their pensions ASAP so they can move to a safer country and the politicians are mainly crooks anyway so they are quite at home in a lawless cesspit.

What planet are you living on? Post some figures to back any of that up.

[David Vincent]

What planet are you living on? Post some figures to back any of that up.

Forget the figures. They are fixed. I just use my eyes. I was brought up on a council estate were everyone had a job. If those people thought there was a guy sitting at home injecting himself with drugs and selling drugs to kids on the estate. They would have gone to his house with lighted torches just like the Bavarian villagers in the old Frankenstein films and chased him out. In fact, they wouldn't have needed to do that because the police would have done their job and arrested him. Today nearly every council estate has its resident drug dealer and his gang. The jobs have mainly gone. The only people getting rich are crooks. The whole country is broken. It will take more than you and your braille keyboard to convince me otherwise.

[Rjk]

If you don't think the UK has collapsed then you must be blind. Whatever the police figures for crime are you need to double or treble it to see the real figure. The police and politicians don't want you to know they have already given up fighting crime. The police just want to get their pensions ASAP so they can move to a safer country and the politicians are mainly crooks anyway so they are quite at home in a lawless cesspit.

Where are you getting this paranoia from?

[goats]

Where are you getting this paranoia from?

Begs belief....we have more homeless, that’s about it really. And half of them aren’t even homeless, they just leave their beds it’s to come in to town to beg. I wouldn’t give them f all these days

[Croesy Blue]

Look at his posts another poster in thrawl of the mail or the sun.

[Trigger]

Yes for me. However it couldn't drag on for decades like it does in the states. Think in this instance it worked out well, probably got bullied most days in there also.

[The Bob Banker Spanker]

Some of you on here are living in a fool's paradise. It could be something to do with our drug culture. Even our top politicians have now been exposed as cokeheads.

I've just had a look at the official figures and even they show that no one works in 1 in 6 households in the UK. Nearly 25% of the working age population is economically inactive. That figure includes many students who are pushed into useless courses by a Government to disguise the fact that there are no jobs for them. A third of the economically active are in part-time jobs. In reality they are more or less unemployed. Many of those in full-time employment will be on zero hours contracts and on a minimum wage. Many of the jobs have been de-skilled. The work will be repetitive soul-destroying call center type jobs.

Someone in The Times last week - I think it was the guy in charge of Tata - said the Uk had given up on manufacturing. He pointed out that one of our biggest exports is now scrap metal. The whole country has been asset stripped. I haven't met anyone who makes anything for many years.

I bet you’re fun at parties Dai

[Joe Gillis]

Good riddance!

[William Treseder]

I have honestly never read such rubbish in my whole life.

Yes you have. You read my posts!
I now feel insulted!!

[life on mars]

I know this will split opinion on here

BUT

The guy is one sick person and maybe doesnt deserve to be alive


https://uk.news.yahoo.com/richard-hu...101332342.html


He was given 22 life sentences in 2016 after he admitted 71 charges of sexual abuse of children aged between six months and 12 years.

If you admit crimes like this and are in good sane mind, should the death sentence return ? ? ?

yep

[surge]

Those who are calling for the death penalty should have their names recorded as the people who "push the button". It probably won't surprise many that when the death penalty was part of UK legal system the people who took on that role were not the most savoury characters and that is the gang you'd be joining.

[Former Labour leader]

It's a no for me.

And a big juicy NO from me.

[Majorblue]

Capital punishment is both barbaric and ineffective.
Whilst our methods of punishment and/or rehabilitation needed overhauling reintroducing the gallows is a complete no go for me.

[Eric Cartman]

Resembling revenge, it doesn't appear to have any provable benefits. People are naive if they want to hand the state the legal mandate to kill when they please.

[William Treseder]

So the vast majority on here are dead against (excuse the pun) the death penalty.
I am among that no. as well.
What I am for though in these cases like Sutcliffe, Huntley, Hindley, Brady etc is life in a small cell, with a toilet in it, and basic food like bread and water., with absolutely no privileges.
Anyone disagree with this?

[Heisenberg]

So the vast majority on here are dead against (excuse the pun) the death penalty.
I am among that no. as well.
What I am for though in these cases like Sutcliffe, Huntley, Hindley, Brady etc is life in a small cell, with a toilet in it, and basic food like bread and water., with absolutely no privileges.
Anyone disagree with this?

I totally agree.

Going to prison is supposed to be a punishment and be part of a criminal's rehabilitation. It's my opinion that some people simply cannot be rehabilitated (like the one's that you've named) and then rejoin society. They shouldn't face the death penalty, but made to live with the consequences of their actions every minute of every day instead.

[David Vincent]

So the vast majority on here are dead against (excuse the pun) the death penalty.
I am among that no. as well.
What I am for though in these cases like Sutcliffe, Huntley, Hindley, Brady etc is life in a small cell, with a toilet in it, and basic food like bread and water., with absolutely no privileges.
Anyone disagree with this?

That is a soft punishment compared to taking someone's life away. It is wrong not to kill them.

There are three main groups in the world – bad people, good people who think bad people are not really bad and good people who know bad people are bad. Society is now under the control of the first two groups. The bad people are being protected by the do-gooders. Christianity is a big part of the problem. Every clear thinking person knows that The Parable of the Labourers in the Vineyard is nonsense. Richard in that great film Dead Man’s Shoes summed it up perfectly : “God will forgive them. He'll forgive them and allow them into Heaven. I can't live with that.”

[cyril evans awaydays]

That is a soft punishment compared to taking someone's life away. It is wrong not to kill them.

There are three main groups in the world – bad people, good people who think bad people are not really bad and good people who know bad people are bad. Society is now under the control of the first two groups. The bad people are being protected by the do-gooders. Christianity is a big part of the problem. Every clear thinking person knows that The Parable of the Labourers in the Vineyard is nonsense. Richard in that great film Dead Man’s Shoes summed it up perfectly : “God will forgive them. He'll forgive them and allow them into Heaven. I can't live with that.”

I had this bizarre idea in my head that Christianity in all it's forms has a greater foothold in the death penalty friendly US than in the UK but don't let that stand in the way of your theory.

[Croesy Blue]

That is a soft punishment compared to taking someone's life away. It is wrong not to kill them.

There are three main groups in the world – bad people, good people who think bad people are not really bad and good people who know bad people are bad. Society is now under the control of the first two groups. The bad people are being protected by the do-gooders. Christianity is a big part of the problem. Every clear thinking person knows that The Parable of the Labourers in the Vineyard is nonsense. Richard in that great film Dead Man’s Shoes summed it up perfectly : “God will forgive them. He'll forgive them and allow them into Heaven. I can't live with that.”

Unless you believe in a literal hell how is being killed worse than being kept locked up for your whole life? For me the death penalty isn't really a bad punishment because you can't experience it.

I'm all for the very worst being locked up in a cell with no comforts as WT has stated. That for me is a much worse punishment.

[David Vincent]

Unless you believe in a literal hell how is being killed worse than being kept locked up for your whole life? For me the death penalty isn't really a bad punishment because you can't experience it.

I'm all for the very worst being locked up in a cell with no comforts as WT has stated. That for me is a much worse punishment.

If life in prison was worse than death then most lifers would kill themselves. The fact that they don't is proof that death is a worse punishment.

There is an interesting case going on at the moment which exposes the hypocrisy of our government. They are blaming Trump for not extraditing the American base car driver and yet we are protecting two Indian/British people from being tried for murder in India. The crime they are accused of is not uncommon in some parts of the world. Evil people are adopting orphans for the sole purpose of insuring them and then killing them for the insurance payout. Anyone who thinks these murderers do not deserve death is mentally unbalanced. Yes, I'm looking at some of you nutjobs on here. Imagine doing this to poor orphans who have already suffered so much.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/india-extr...121219294.html

[Henry Hill]

If life in prison was worse than death then most lifers would kill themselves. The fact that they don't is proof that death is a worse punishment.

There is an interesting case going on at the moment which exposes the hypocrisy of our government. They are blaming Trump for not extraditing the American base car driver and yet we are protecting two Indian/British people from being tried for murder in India. The crime they are accused of is not uncommon in some parts of the world. Evil people are adopting orphans for the sole purpose of insuring them and then killing them for the insurance payout. Anyone who thinks these murderers do not deserve death is mentally unbalanced. Yes, I'm looking at some of you nutjobs on here. Imagine doing this to poor orphans who have already suffered so much.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/india-extr...121219294.html

You calling someonelse a 'nutjob' is quite astounding.

[cyril evans awaydays]

If life in prison was worse than death then most lifers would kill themselves. The fact that they don't is proof that death is a worse punishment.

There is an interesting case going on at the moment which exposes the hypocrisy of our government. They are blaming Trump for not extraditing the American base car driver and yet we are protecting two Indian/British people from being tried for murder in India. The crime they are accused of is not uncommon in some parts of the world. Evil people are adopting orphans for the sole purpose of insuring them and then killing them for the insurance payout. Anyone who thinks these murderers do not deserve death is mentally unbalanced. Yes, I'm looking at some of you nutjobs on here. Imagine doing this to poor orphans who have already suffered so much.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/india-extr...121219294.html

Over 140 countries in the world don't have the death penalty and India has executed 4 people in the last 20 years. There seem to be an awful lot of unbalanced nutjobs out there!

[The Bob Banker Spanker]

So the vast majority on here are dead against (excuse the pun) the death penalty.
I am among that no. as well.
What I am for though in these cases like Sutcliffe, Huntley, Hindley, Brady etc is life in a small cell, with a toilet in it, and basic food like bread and water., with absolutely no privileges.
Anyone disagree with this?

Nope, I agree.
I believe that’s a fate worse than death. Death is an easy way out for those sickos.