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Thread: Cardiff University has 250 staff Earning more than £100,000 a year.

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    Cardiff University has 250 staff Earning more than £100,000 a year.

    https://www.business-live.co.uk/econ...iving-17081902

    If this is the cost of Cardiff alone ,what cost the total cost are for taxpayers across the UK

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    Re: Cardiff University has 250 staff Earning more than £100,000 a year.

    Is that surprising? Universities are very big businesses, they bring in millions of money from overseas ,and attract top talent here.

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    Re: Cardiff University has 250 staff Earning more than £100,000 a year.

    I just looked, in 17/18 Cardiff university had a turnover of more than £500 million! Most businesses that size will have many people on more than £100k

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    Re: Cardiff University has 250 staff Earning more than £100,000 a year.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    Is that surprising? Universities are very big businesses, they bring in millions of money from overseas ,and attract top talent here.
    The concept that investments and costs may result in a greater benefit could be challenging for some!

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    Re: Cardiff University has 250 staff Earning more than £100,000 a year.

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    https://www.business-live.co.uk/econ...iving-17081902

    If this is the cost of Cardiff alone ,what cost the total cost are for taxpayers across the UK
    Just to be clear, that includes the UHW site at the Heath where many of the medical staff are practicing doctors earning consultants wages.

    I'd be very surprised if there were more than a 50 non-medical academics earning that sort of money.

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    Re: Cardiff University has 250 staff Earning more than £100,000 a year.

    Almost like its a Russell Group university employing experts in their fields

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    Re: Cardiff University has 250 staff Earning more than £100,000 a year.

    ones for the future

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    Re: Cardiff University has 250 staff Earning more than £100,000 a year.

    Quote Originally Posted by Penarth Blues View Post
    Just to be clear, that includes the UHW site at the Heath where many of the medical staff are practicing doctors earning consultants wages.

    I'd be very surprised if there were more than a 50 non-medical academics earning that sort of money.
    This. That is a lot of money for an academic to earn as a salary.

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    Re: Cardiff University has 250 staff Earning more than £100,000 a year.

    just surprised it was high up the earnings table , Cardiff is only behind the University of Edinburgh (335) and the University of Manchester (331) on the list.

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    Re: Cardiff University has 250 staff Earning more than £100,000 a year.

    University funding isn’t all taxpayer money either.

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    Re: Cardiff University has 250 staff Earning more than £100,000 a year.

    I don’t see much of an issue with this. The best universities need the best staff.

    £100k, whilst a lot to many, isn’t actually that much in this age

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    Re: Cardiff University has 250 staff Earning more than £100,000 a year.

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    Re: Cardiff University has 250 staff Earning more than £100,000 a year.

    Quote Originally Posted by Optimistic Nick View Post
    This. That is a lot of money for an academic to earn as a salary.
    Not really, I wouldn't be surprised if senior lecturers at most too unis were paid that much. Especially if they are also doing research that is commercially valuable

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    Re: Cardiff University has 250 staff Earning more than £100,000 a year.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    Not really, I wouldn't be surprised if senior lecturers at most too unis were paid that much. Especially if they are also doing research that is commercially valuable
    There won't be 250 senior lecturers though. Agree a lot of lecturers would earn that much but not as a salary. They will have multiple sources of income. I know we pay consultancy fees to academics but I think it is paid direct to them, not via their university. As above, it is surely doctors and surgeons bumping up that number.

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    Re: Cardiff University has 250 staff Earning more than £100,000 a year.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    Not really, I wouldn't be surprised if senior lecturers at most too unis were paid that much. Especially if they are also doing research that is commercially valuable
    **** me, I wish I did earn that much.

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    Re: Cardiff University has 250 staff Earning more than £100,000 a year.

    Quote Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2 View Post
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    Re: Cardiff University has 250 staff Earning more than £100,000 a year.

    Quote Originally Posted by dembethewarrior View Post
    I take it from this, interesting reads https://www.business-live.co.uk/econ...iving-17081902

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    Re: Cardiff University has 250 staff Earning more than £100,000 a year.

    How much would you expect to earn if you had a PhD?

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    Re: Cardiff University has 250 staff Earning more than £100,000 a year.

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    I take it from this, interesting reads https://www.business-live.co.uk/econ...iving-17081902
    I didn’t make the comment...

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    Re: Cardiff University has 250 staff Earning more than £100,000 a year.

    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    How much would you expect to earn if you had a PhD?
    A typical postdoc position starts at around £30k, however most phds don’t get postdoc positions and end up in research assistant roles which pay much less and can easily start in the low-mid £20s.

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    Re: Cardiff University has 250 staff Earning more than £100,000 a year.

    Quote Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2 View Post
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    Today's?

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    Re: Cardiff University has 250 staff Earning more than £100,000 a year.

    There is a pretty significant point accidentally made by the OP though. Under the current system it is impossible to assess the value for money of the university system as we don't know how much of the fee burden will need to be picked up by the taxpayer.

    I am almost certain that is the point he was trying to make.

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    Re: Cardiff University has 250 staff Earning more than £100,000 a year.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    There is a pretty significant point accidentally made by the OP though. Under the current system it is impossible to assess the value for money of the university system as we don't know how much of the fee burden will need to be picked up by the taxpayer.

    I am almost certain that is the point he was trying to make.
    Universities are assessed via REF and TEF (whether they're fit for purpose is another argument) and these measures are linked to funding, so in reality value for money can be calculated to some degree. The average joe public may not know how much tax payer money has gone where, but that info will be recorded - how it's spent is a different matter.

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    Re: Cardiff University has 250 staff Earning more than £100,000 a year.

    Quote Originally Posted by rs3100 View Post
    A typical postdoc position starts at around £30k, however most phds don’t get postdoc positions and end up in research assistant roles which pay much less and can easily start in the low-mid £20s.
    Where do they finish?

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    Re: Cardiff University has 250 staff Earning more than £100,000 a year.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    I just looked, in 17/18 Cardiff university had a turnover of more than £500 million! Most businesses that size will have many people on more than £100k
    I can only compare to the business where I work, our turnover last year was £120million and zero employees earned over £100k. There’s around 12-15 who earn £50k+. Referring to the point about PhD my answer is around £45k-£50k

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