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No answer then. Not surprised.Originally Posted by life on mars
Even the uber Left, pro Palestinian leader of the lib dems thinks Corbyn and Labour are anti Semitic .
Eric splits hairs between Nazis and socialists , but the only people supporting Herr Corbyn's dream seem to be socialists
What are you on about anti Semitic tropes ? You're just making up plain lies now, the last resort of the scoundrel when found out !
You know Swinson is just making political capital from it.
What socialist policies did put in place that killed people? Authoritarian leaders murder people, Pinochet was an arch capitalist and liked to kill people, no one is claiming he did that because he believed in free market economics.
So LOM, no answer then to my question of what he said or did that was anti-semitic. Not surprised.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_...n_(politician)
In 2017 Williamson described antisemitism as being "utterly repugnant and a scourge on society, which is why I stand in absolute solidarity with anyone who is subjected to antisemitic abuse". He added that his critics' "accusations of anti-Semitism (against him) were positively sinister" and "highly offensive and hurtful" in suggesting "that I was an anti-Semite myself, yet I have fought racism all my adult life".
In February 2019, Williamson was criticised for booking a room in the Houses of Parliament for a screening of Witch Hunt, a film about suspended party member Jackie Walker, to be hosted by Jewish Voice for Labour. At the same time, a video was published by The Yorkshire Post of him telling a Momentum meeting in Sheffield that the party was being "demonised as a racist, bigoted party", partly because, in response to criticism, the party had "given too much ground (and) been too apologetic", going on to say "We've done more to address the scourge of anti-Semitism than any other political party."
Williamson apologised for his comments saying: "I deeply regret, and apologise for, my recent choice of words when speaking about how the Labour Party has responded to the ongoing fight against antisemitism inside of our party. I was trying to stress how much the party has done to tackle anti-Semitism". On 27 February 2019, he was put under formal notice of investigation, and later that day suspended from the party.
The court case you quote resulted in a ruling that Labour's re-suspension after his readmitance in June was unlawful - a victory of sorts for Williamson although not the way the national press reported it. He was re-suspended in September for very similar reasons to the first time and the court said that disciplinary action must take its course.
Paul Evans (TOBW) wrote in another thread on the anti-semitism crisis in Labour that Chris Williamson on the radio came over to him as very unsympathetic. I can't remember the exact words he used but the impression was that Williamson was strident and not very personable. He is clearly an embarrassment to the Labour leadership who didn't want any defence of the party's actions or push back against those denouncing them. Paul's comments fit with my own impression of Chris Williamson. But I have never seen any evidence of anti-semitic words or actions from him, despite the avalanche of condemnation from the media and his political enemies.
Uncle Joe didn't discriminate against who he killed. He was happy to murder anyone without fear or favour
Jo Swinson Uber Left 😱 Gosh you've got a lot to learn about politics haven't you!
I've noticed he's steadfastly refused to offer any comment on the Armenian genocide despite my asking him his views on the topic twice. In his defence it's likely he's not aware of the story but instead of googling Latin phrases if he only bothered to google this awful episode of human cruelty he may gain a useful insight into other tragedies which never seem to gain as much publicity.
I can only say that you're a sad little git Dorcas
I think Chris Williamson was never viewed as the contrite supplicant begging for forgiveness from the Jewish community which would have suited Labour hierarchy's naive attempt to get this issue done and dusted and thrown on the back burner. He was probably too honest for his own good and much less pliable than was wished for.
You seem to say that with some empathy. In fact he discriminated a lot but let's not let the facts get in the way. Have you ever thought of stalking people on some other message board ?
Or maybe you already do that ?
No I don't find stalking very interesting thanks. Are you so hostile to anyone who questions your views?
No, especially when they do it rationally and they're not closet anti Semites or nutters who stalk people
No I'm as happy as hell Ronnie, especially when I expose fascists. Oh and I'm a big guy by the way so not so little.
Yeah that's it - expose the facsists by going for the Jews.
I mean I'm only guessing ,and I've got better things to do really, but I don't think I believe you're " a big guy " , unless you mean fat. It's a known fact that socialists are usually physically weak men - that's why they're attracted to the idea of someone else providing for them.
I'd guess that you're either a schoolteacher or someone who couldn't even manage that , but remains locked in a nostalgic fantasy of your high point in life when you were in school.
I mean , this is all very rude and frank, but it's always been a trait of my personality that I tend not to take shit from anyone so what's good for the goose s good for the gander.
Only difference is that I'm solid and you're fake. I expect you've got a history of making unfortunate people and kids feel bad about themselves with your empty bullshit but you'll hit a wall with me on any level so don't tell me you're " a big guy" .
I keep telling you, go and stalk someone else because all you'll get out of me is being told to **** right off. Maybe pick on someone weaker ?
Ha ha you just love the ad hominem abuse don't you Ronnie because you haven't the wherewithal to construct an intelligent debate. Good luck loser!
No, you're not kidding anyone . Like so many freaks you accuse people of what you do yourself.
You don't do debate, intelligent or otherwise. You just get hold of ( wrong) personal details about people and start posting them in some half arsed attempt to be sinister ,which is VERY creepy, then you try to make them feel unhappy or insecure.
Who knows how many teenagers you've head ****ed, because you probably get lucky sometimes!
Unfortunately , because you're stupid like most bullies ,you've got no ****ing idea who or what you're dealing with, and you've got no possible chance of competing with me on any level so forget it.
It's a nuisance because I've got better things to do than arguing the toss with some stalking nutter who I wouldn't ordinarily speak to, but I'll do it for the sake of weaker people you might latch on to.
Keep on with the crap and you'll keep getting the same answer.
You're obviously a deranged piece of shit with delusions of grandeur but without the ability to play the role. Well I'm afraid it's time to put you back in your little box and therefore you're back on ignore. You were given a chance to redeem yourself but failed miserably.
Can we end this lunacy about Jo Swinson being "uber left" now please.Swinson voting record.jpg
No you did. As I said, you're not kidding anyone, and it's not up to you to award "redemption" to me or anyone else. I wish you were being truthful about putting me on ignore but in any case stop stalking me and trying to pry into me and keep up the pretence by not addressing me. I won't add to that in the hope that you'll have no further excuse to keep on
Well, these things are relative . The whole of Uk politics , on the tail of EU politics has moved so far to the left that British society is unrecognisable from the country which was one of the icons of the free world . I shouldn't really have added the prefix of "uber" because it's nothing more than a fashionable buzz word, but by traditional standards she's quite lefty.
There are conservatives now that I'd regard as left leaning, so she's hardly unique being drawn to one side by this very destructive invisible magnate.
Fortunately though, it's not representative of everyday regular people, just the Westminster bubble , so that's our best hope.
I don't personally support any political party but in this case we need a clear conservative win to force the elitist politicians to heed the vote we had. Beyond that , I think that anyone who trusts any of them is daft because all they'll ever produce is hot air and social divisions from which they'll personally benefit .
A courageous stand by yet another labour figure. There's little doubt that this Nazi revival we've seen examples of in this thread is being seen for what it it at this point.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/v...stin-nk52kpmng
"Mr Austin’s greatest concern is the rise of antisemitism in the Labour Party. “Most shamefully of all they have allowed a party with the proudest record of fighting racism and standing up for equality to be poisoned with racism against Jewish people and it is a complete and utter disgrace,” he said."
If he hates racists he wouldn't have just taken a job working for the party that brought you windrush and the pm who makes Muslims the punchline of his jokes.
Strange move. So many potential masts to nail his colours to and he chooses Boris??
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