Jewish group walks away from Labour

[Heisenberg]

I think he's written so much contradictory and poisionous shit on here that the only way to stop his head exploding is to project views onto people that don't hold them to make him feel better.

I mean if you held a consistent view that anti-semitism in all its forms is abhorrent why would you dismiss a massacre at a US synagogue by blithely saying that this thing has been going on since Billy the Kid so nothing to see here. A question it seems he finds impossible to answer.

Summed up nicely, Cyril.

He also posted that "Jewish Americans especially in New York state and the Eastern Seaboard have huge infrastructures , finance and influence."

He also repeatedly referred to Jewish people as "The Jew".

Ronnie Bird jumped to his defence on every occasion, despite being critical of everyone else and calling them anti-Semitic (but, like LoM, was guilty of attributing words to people who never posted them).

If the anti-Semitism issue had involved the Tory party, LoM wouldn't have breathed a word about it (neither would Ronnie Bird) because neither of them care about the issue really, they are just using it to beat up the Labour Party.

LoM has posted more obvious racism on CCMB in the last few years than anyone else that I can think of.

[cyril evans awaydays]

Summed up nicely, Cyril.

He also posted that "Jewish Americans especially in New York state and the Eastern Seaboard have huge infrastructures , finance and influence."

He also repeatedly referred to Jewish people as "The Jew".

Ronnie Bird jumped to his defence on every occasion, despite being critical of everyone else and calling them anti-Semitic (but, like LoM, was guilty of attributing words to people who never posted them).

If the anti-Semitism issue had involved the Tory party, LoM wouldn't have breathed a word about it (neither would Ronnie Bird) because neither of them care about the issue really, they are just using it to beat up the Labour Party.

LoM has posted more obvious racism on CCMB in the last few years than anyone else that I can think of.

Tbf most of LoM's messageboard heroes are closet or card carrying anti-semites. WB spent pages defending the Unite the Right torchlit Rally that chanted "Jews will not replace us" and regularly sounds off about George Soros as some kind of shylock-like maniputator. Organ Morgan is a full fat holocaust denier and Bilderburg/Goldman Sachs conspiracy screamer yet all we hear from LoM is how sad he is that he no longer articulates his views here.

To understand the absurdity and hypocrisy of his position the core element of the Labour Party debacle about anti-semitism was that it allowed people to think that the perceived sins of the Israeli state gave free rein to people who may have detrimental views about Jewish people more generally to feel comfortable in articulating them.

Yet LoM, however much he denies or tries to ignore it, is on record as saying he will never buy a Chinese takeaway from them because what they did around Covid.

Same racist message as the one he spends hours trying to project onto others without a scintilla of evidence to support.

[cyril evans awaydays]

Tbf most of LoM's messageboard heroes are closet or card carrying anti-semites. WB spent pages defending the Unite the Right torchlit Rally that chanted "Jews will not replace us" and regularly sounds off about George Soros as some kind of shylock-like maniputator. Organ Morgan is a full fat holocaust denier and Bilderburg/Goldman Sachs conspiracy screamer yet all we hear from LoM is how sad he is that he no longer articulates his views here.

To understand the absurdity and hypocrisy of his position the core element of the Labour Party debacle about anti-semitism was that it allowed people to think that the perceived sins of the Israeli state gave free rein to people who may have detrimental views about Jewish people more generally to feel comfortable in articulating them.

Yet LoM, however much he denies or tries to ignore it, is on record as saying he will never buy a Chinese takeaway from them because what they did around Covid.

Same racist message as the one he spends hours trying to project onto others without a scintilla of evidence to support.

We should give LoM the benefit of the doubt on his impeccable non-racist credentials. Here was his view on getting a Chinese takeaway and the context (he always gets taken out of it).

I will officially never want to eat Chinese ever again .

They can stick thier noodles as far up there back end as possible.

https://www.ccmb.co.uk/showthread.ph...y-robbing-gets

[life on mars]

Not doing anything to dispel my point are ya, LoM?

You seem to one a one-man crusade to convince yourself that you're proving a point about the people who usually disagree with you on here are defending Corbyn and Labour in light of the report's findings. Yet you've been asked to point out which posts in this thread have done that and you've just gone off on tangents.

I look forward to your well thought out response

Always tell when you hit a brickwall with your argument , just to help the Labour in its current state believes it past version held antisemitism views it probably exits with certain supporters who are still in denial.

[Heisenberg]

Always tell when you hit a brickwall with your argument , just to help the Labour in its current state believes it past version held antisemitism views it probably exits with certain supporters who are still in denial.

Word soup again. No idea what you're on about.

[life on mars]

Summed up nicely, Cyril.

He also posted that "Jewish Americans especially in New York state and the Eastern Seaboard have huge infrastructures , finance and influence."

He also repeatedly referred to Jewish people as "The Jew".

Ronnie Bird jumped to his defence on every occasion, despite being critical of everyone else and calling them anti-Semitic (but, like LoM, was guilty of attributing words to people who never posted them).

If the anti-Semitism issue had involved the Tory party, LoM wouldn't have breathed a word about it (neither would Ronnie Bird) because neither of them care about the issue really, they are just using it to beat up the Labour Party.

LoM has posted more obvious racism on CCMB in the last few years than anyone else that I can think of.

Still in denial its very sad you can't raise yourself beyond selective views , Labour party found guilty on counts , best you grab a new cause as the new Labour party doesn't fit your narrow narrative

[Heisenberg]

Still in denial its very sad you can't raise yourself beyond selective views , Labour party found guilty on counts , best you grab a new cause as the new Labour party doesn't fit your narrow narrative

What are you on about? "denial"? I've posted my views already in the thread that TOBW posted. If you were genuinely bothered by people's views on the matter you would have seen that I said that the result of the enquiry "...was pretty damning." and also said
"Can Corbyn keep his position within the party after this? If he stays on it will be an albatross around the neck of Labour, surely."

Which part of that is in denial, LoM? You can't just keep using words that you don't understand to prove a point that doesn't exist.

Myself and Cyril are merely pointing out that you're the last person who should be throwing around comments about racism after the history of racist posts that you've made on here.

You still can't come up with a response to Cyril asking you why you referred to Billy The Kid after the murder of 11 Jewish people in a Synagogue. Give it a try, why don't you? Or are you...



In denial?

[Eric Cartman]

I think it is only fair if we give LOM an opportunity to apologise for his racist and misogynistic posts.

[life on mars]

This has hurt you all your wonderful Labour party with its appalling behaviour ,it has put in power the biggest clown in history , what an achievement

I've never pretending to be all inclusive or display righteousness as a this awful political party did .

People don't vote for me Labpur party however should be beyond this behaviour, and better than me .


Try and get over your loss and be mean enough to realise your party let you and so many of its core supporters down.

You can pick out as many of my quotes as you like I really don't care , politicians however are supposed to be beyond this behavour ,better than me, and lead by example, being found guilty of 23 counts is appalling , and your new leader thinks the same , bd has said so,
and good on him , and yes he will need to become a lite version of Blair to get into power, which will, hurt ,enjoy the ride, its called democracy ,will of the people has won thank god and the project is over, just a few more suspensions or removals to go to add to the removal of Bailey , Nadia Whittome, Corbyn ,Williamson and the dreadful Livingstone ,,clear em out I say .

[life on mars]

I think it is only fair if we give LOM an opportunity to apologise for his racist and misogynistic posts.

Not about me ,your moving the goalposts just shows how weak your arguments are on this matter, Labour is guilty on all counts 23 of them .

[Heisenberg]

Not about me ,your moving the goalposts just shows how weak your arguments are on this matter, Labour is guilty on all counts 23 of them .

[life on mars]

you suggesting this didn't happen, man up admit your a busted flush with your silly hikd like replies

[Heisenberg]

you suggesting this didn't happen, man up admit your a busted flush with your silly hikd like replies

What's wrong with my silly hikd like replies?

[life on mars]

What's wrong with my silly hikd like replies?

"" those who fail to recognise there is a problem , are part of the problem "

Just in case you have forgotten the OP with your petty moving the goalposts it was : (Jewish group walks away from Labour)

Your lack of comment to the issue , speak volumes .

[Heisenberg]

"" those who fail to recognise there is a problem , are part of the problem "

Just in case you have forgotten the OP with your petty moving the goalposts it was : (Jewish group walks away from Labour)

Your lack of comment to the issue , speak volumes .

Oh do f**k off you sanctimonious little c**t

Aren't there some Chinese restaurants or some brown people born in the UK that you deem not to be "natural born British" that you can have a go at?

I've said my piece on the anti-Semitism issue, I've already reminded you once what my views were - you keep choosing to ignore it because it doesn't suit your narrative (which is that you want me to defend Corbyn... and I haven't).

I've called you out on dozens of examples of bigotry and misogyny (including the defence of paedophiles and other sexual predators) which make you the last person on here that I'd take shit from about the anti-Semitism issue - even if I had defended Corbyn!

You're really struggling without the backup of the other scumbags on here, aren't you?

[life on mars]

Oh do f**k off you sanctimonious little c**t

Aren't there some Chinese restaurants or some brown people born in the UK that you deem not to be "natural born British" that you can have a go at?

I've said my piece on the anti-Semitism issue, I've already reminded you once what my views were - you keep choosing to ignore it because it doesn't suit your narrative (which is that you want me to defend Corbyn... and I haven't).

I've called you out on dozens of examples of bigotry and misogyny (including the defence of paedophiles and other sexual predators) which make you the last person on here that I'd take shit from about the anti-Semitism issue - even if I had defended Corbyn!

You're really struggling without the backup of the other scumbags on here, aren't you?

There we """Oh do f**k off you sanctimonious little c**t " go the old nasty side of socialism , inclusiveness for all , and hard man behind a keyboard .

That's me done on this one ( game set and match )

[Heisenberg]

There we """Oh do f**k off you sanctimonious little c**t " go the old nasty side of socialism , inclusiveness for all , and hard man behind a keyboard .

That's me done on this one ( game set and match )

If those words hurt you more than the ones where I called you a bigot/racist/misogynist/paedophile defender... you've not only lost the argument, you've lost the f**king plot

[cyril evans awaydays]

If those words hurt you more than the ones where I called you a bigot/racist/misogynist/paedophile defender... you've not only lost the argument, you've lost the f**king plot

But he fessed up to some of that in this late night outburst, probably posted just after Lynchburg, Tennessee got called for Trump

I've never pretending to be all inclusive or display righteousness as a this awful political party did .

People don't vote for me Labpur party however should be beyond this behaviour, and better than me .

[Heisenberg]

But he fessed up to some of that in this late night outburst, probably posted just after Lynchburg, Tennessee got called for Trump

I think that post is probably still hungover

[life on mars]

I think that post is probably still hungover

shame on you both trivialising this matter ,explains a lot .

[cyril evans awaydays]

shame on you both trivialising this matter ,explains a lot .

Sorry, thought you had taken your tennis racquet away after game set and match.

What I am not trivialising are two things.

Any shred of evidence that I have posted, supported or condoned anti-semitism in the Labour Party and

Copious amounts of evidence that you are a racist, misogynist.

Now if you have proof to support the former or to disprove the latter then put up or shut up.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Sorry, thought you had taken your tennis racquet away after game set and match.

What I am not trivialising are two things.

Any shred of evidence that I have posted, supported or condoned anti-semitism in the Labour Party and

Copious amounts of evidence that you are a racist, misogynist.

Now if you have proof to support the former or to disprove the latter then put up or shut up.

People like you come on here with your bloody facts......

By the way, my tbg emoji has disappeared

[cyril evans awaydays]

People like you come on here with your bloody facts......

By the way, my tbg emoji has disappeared

Who said you can't put it back in the bottle?:tbg:

[Heisenberg]

shame on you both trivialising this matter ,explains a lot .

I'm shocked! Genuinely shocked by this post!

You spelled 'trivialising' correctly and put it in the right context.

[life on mars]

I'm shocked! Genuinely shocked by this post!

You spelled 'trivialising' correctly and put it in the right context.

Its all hear for folk to read your petty comments just mask your real problems ,everything you type into this message and thread proves beyond doubt your approach to the whole issue , the people who suffered for this dreadful incident would weep if they could read your silly responses :

eir Starmer MP, Leader of the Labour Party, in his statement responding to the EHRC’s report into anti-semitism in the Labour Party, said:

***CHECK AGAINST DELIVERY***

This morning the Equality and Human Rights Commission published their final report into anti-semitism in the Labour Party.



I want to thank Caroline Waters, David Isaac and everyone at the Commission for their work in the last year and a half.



It is a comprehensive, rigorous, and thoroughly professional report.



When the Commission was set up by the last Labour Government to tackle discrimination, promote equality, and protect human rights.



It never occurred to me or anyone else, that one day the Labour Party would be investigated for breaching the equality legislation that a Labour Government had introduced.



Worse still, that the Labour Party would be found to have committed unlawful acts under that same legislation.



But that is what this report finds.



Both in terms of unlawful harassment through the acts of our agents and unlawful indirect discrimination.



The report’s conclusions are clear.



And stark.



They leave no room for equivocation.



The report finds:



Serious failings in leadership, processes and culture in dealing with anti-semitism within our Party;



specific examples of unlawful harassment and unlawful indirect discrimination; “clear examples” of political interference from the Leaders’ Office in anti-semitism cases;



an inadequate process for handling complaints of anti-semitism;



a failure to deliver adequate training for staff responsible for investigating cases;



repeated failure to implement the recommendations of previous reports into anti-semitism;



A culture that is, and I quote: “at odds with the Labour Party’s commitment to zero-tolerance of anti-semitism”;



And – perhaps most telling of all: “a clear breakdown of trust between the Labour Party, many of its members and the Jewish community.”



I found this report hard to read.



And it is a day of shame for the Labour Party.



We have failed Jewish people.



Our members.



Our supporters.



And the British public.



And so: on behalf of the Labour Party: I am truly sorry for all the pain and grief that has been caused.



To Jewish people, our Jewish members, our long-standing Jewish affiliate, JLM.



To the people driven out of our Party, the Jewish Members driven out of Parliament, including Louise Ellman and Luciana Berger.



And to the members of Labour Party staff who spoke out, I want to say this: I know how hard these last few years have been for you.



How painful today will be and how hard you have had to fight to have your voices heard.



So let me be clear, I hear you.



And I can promise you this: I will act.



Never again will Labour let you down.



Never again will we fail to tackle anti-semitism.



And never again will we lose your trust.



The Labour Party I lead accepts this report in full.



And without qualification.



We will implement all the recommendations.



And we will implement them in full.



That process starts today.



I have already instructed my staff to start work with the Commission to implement the recommendations at the earliest possible opportunity.



We will provide the Commission with our action plan to achieve all of this within six weeks.



We will establish an independent complaints process – and it will be in place as soon as possible in the New Year.



We will ensure that neither the Leader, the Deputy Leader nor our offices will have any involvement in the outcome of complaints initiated under the Labour Party processes



And we are already addressing the backlog of anti-semitism cases. In fact, there have been more cases completed in the last six months than in the whole of 2019.



But we will go much further.



And we must go further.



Because – as the report makes clear – this cannot be solved just by changing the Labour Party’s processes and structures.



We also need a culture change in the Labour Party.



It must become, once again, an open and welcoming place for people from all backgrounds, and all communities.



Under my leadership, zero-tolerance of anti-semitism will mean precisely that.



If you’re anti-semitic, you should be nowhere near this Party.



And we’ll make sure you’re not.



And if – after all the pain, all the grief, and all the evidence in this report, there are still those who think there’s no problem with anti-semitism in the Labour Party. That it’s all exaggerated, or a factional attack.



Then, frankly, you are part of the problem too. And you should be nowhere near the Labour Party either.



This report is painful to read.



But I urge everyone to do so.



Because this must be a line in the sand.



There can be no more missed opportunities



No more denials or excuses.



Under my leadership, Labour will act decisively against anti-semitism in all its forms.



We will repair the breach.



I know it will take time



And hard work.



But when I stood for leader of this Party, I was clear that my first priority would be to root out anti-semitism.



And rebuild trust.



That started in April



We have made progress. It will intensify today.



But I will only consider it a success when those members who left our Party because of anti-semitism feel safe to return.



And when we no longer hear the words “Labour” and “anti-semitism” in the same sentence.



Thank you.