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See, if you do stuff with your life ,you get to know all sorts of people in all sorts of countries. It's ****ing tragic that you can't imagine having enough contacts to call the right people to get the inside track.
Here's something which will blow your little mind, sometimes people call me for similar reasons.
But of course, no one deals with serious stuff because you don't. That's obvious isn't it ?
good old capitalist hating Len
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...wards-his-flat
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...kers-interests
I'm hoping it's just ignorance that makes you use the term Kippah , or maybe you think it's clever to use a racist term but spell it slightly wrong - intending to claim that it's something to do with UKIP.
Don't project your racism onto others or blame the victims please. Of course I haven't said anything anti Semitic and I've posted numerous links to show that many many Jewish people reject labour, won't vote for them and are considering leaving the country if they were elected. These are facts.
Kipper is derived from UKIP - as you know. The political viewpoint you display on here most often.
I have no idea what 'Kippah' means. I do know it isn't Kipper.
Your anti-semitic posts and references are there for all to see. As are your hysterical and unfounded attacks on other posters. As I said in an earlier post, if you were a member of the Labour Party saying some of those things you would be suspended!
I don't think any other poster (leaving aside LOM with his 'the Jew' terminology) has said anything that is anti-semitic or racist. If you choose to define anti-Zionism as anti-semitism then hundreds of millions of people (including many Jews) are guilty. But that is like an apologist for South African apartheid calling opposition to race laws and bantustans 'racist'.
Where I do agree with you is when you say a large proportion of the UK Jewish population have rejected the Labour Party and feel concerned. That is no surprise after a 4 year campaign to achieve that end. There is a rise in genuine incidents of anti-semitism in Europe (mainly from the populist right and Islamists) and some incidents of anti-semitism inside the Labour Party (too many but the public perception is not based on the reality). Many of the allegation refer to people on social media who have nothing to do with Labour (e.g. 80% of Margaret Hodge's list) or refer to words or incidents that are not anti-semitic at all. I have referenced some of those cases earlier in the thread (you did not respond). Life long anti-racists have been expelled from Labour but usually for 'bringing the party into disrepute' (embarrassing the party) after the anti-semitism claims were quietly dropped - like Tony Greenstein.
None of this helps the real fight against anti-semitism or the other forms of racism that you have decided are not as important.
A kippah is a Jewish skullcap Jon. He knows very well what "kipper" means in this context and he knew very well you weren't referencing a skullcap to be provocative or racist in any way.
He may not be anywhere near the sharpest knife in the drawer but he knows when to stir shit up and only because he hasn't the intellectual capacity to debate. He's just a vacuous shell regurgitating the same old dangerous rubbish.
In comes the stalking nutter with a bit of personal abuse. It seems to be saying that whilst he thinks anti semitism isn't dangerous , complaining about it is.
As I said before , it's hardly just me saying this stuff.
The real boss is off again:
In a wide-ranging interview, McCluskey said:
Labour needed to get the election debate off Brexit and on to the day-to-day issues that really mattered to voters.
The shadow cabinet should keep quiet about how it would campaign in the event of another referendum.
(Love this one )
White working-class supporters of leave in the 2016 referendum would be driven into the arms of a hard-right party unless their concerns about migration were dealt with.
There would be no attempt to move Labour back to the centre if the party lost the election.
He predicted paramilitary attacks on UK mainland ports as a result of the customs border down the Irish Sea that forms a key part of Johnson’s Brexit withdrawal deal
The three apologists here either deny anti semitism, say it's no big deal or explain that they're just very worried about the Palestinians and Zionism. They absolutely deny that the Nazis were any kind of socialists or that they'd really like to get the Jews.
" I've got nothing against Jews, I just oppose the Israeli state and their unprovoked aggression against the peaceful Palestinisn people"
- that's an old one ! Older than many might know though. I'm pretty sure that this clip is no surprise to any of the three people here to whom I've referred, but it's really worth watching for anyone who didn't know that the Nazis were saying this stuff a long time before they were....
"The clear and present danger of Labour Anti semitism "
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/po...anti-semitism/
This interesting article highlights exactly the stuff we've read in this thread from the gang of three.
Quote from anybody here saying Palestine is peaceful? The vast majority of Israeli and Palestinian people are peaceful, do you dispute that?
Yeah I probably would actually Eric. You've got to listen to the street there to see how impossible reconciliation seems. I'd say the majority of Palestinian Arabs and an increasing minority of Israelis display a horrible hatred of each other which has gone beyond the issues and beyond reason.
The Israeli government has tried everything to include the Arabs in a democratic society but they'll often say that nothing except every Jew dead would satisfy them. They're often quite simple people who are nonetheless fanatical in their cause to the point where they'll attack a modern military force with stones, or self detonate in a public place full of women and kids. They not infrequently display swastikas or pictures of Hitler during all this by the way.
They're not going to win this horrible endless war which they insist on waging, and I've often thought that the foreign anti Semitic politicians like George Galloway and Corbyn who encourage them to wage Jihad are their real enemies.
In Jordan and Egypt they've been much harsher on Palestinians than Israel , which has tried to engage them in democracy, but we don't hear complaints from these politicians about that, and that shows me that their motives aren't really humanitarian.
This troubled country can't ever find peace or reconciliation whilst one side is being driven by foreign race hate and encouragement of terrorism.
That last video is presented in such a way as its propaganda as Ive heard it said that at least half a million Muslims fought for the Allies in ww2 and that Muslims were fully behind the Allies with only a small percentage of extremists for the other side, as regards the other side Germany was said to have had a big hand in the creation of Israel even without ww2 and that is because throughout the 1930's Hitlers Germany were big supporters of Zionism, Hamburg to Haifa line and all that, where the aims of both perversely coincided.
Ken Livingstone got into all sorts of trouble saying that stuff Trampie, but I take your point.
However, you missed the point a bit because it's not a question of Islam in general, but the fact that the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and the local Arabs in what is now Israel were, and remain , empathetic with the Nazis in their wish to exterminate all Jews.
In turn, some modern socialists and some in this thread are empathetic with them.
Unless they're so stupid that they don't know all this, we must conclude that there's something nasty and unsaid lurking in their minds.
What they did to Red Ken and others is awful and it does the Jewish cause no good at all imho and seems to be going on all the time, I think it was something like 15% of the German Jewish population that left Germany for Palestine in the preceding years leading up to WW2 all this against our will, we ran the place it was our mandate and the Germans and German Jews were evading our gun boats to break our blockade.