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    “Even when we got the ball we couldn’t pass it”

    It’s been that way for 3 years, Neil.

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    At least he didn't go off on some dopey rant about Brexit or refereeing again to try to deflect attention from an absolutely shit performance.

    But I've no idea why he thinks this side is capable of "going on another run".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimistic Nick View Post
    At least he didn't go off on some dopey rant about Brexit or refereeing again to try to deflect attention from an absolutely shit performance.

    But I've no idea why he thinks this side is capable of "going on another run".
    Another run of draws? Can't wait.

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    "I will be interested what happens at Cardiff City over the next five years and what the comments will be like then. I will enjoy watching from afar."

    Doesn't sound to me that he will be wishing us well once he's gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BINGE THINKING View Post
    "I will be interested what happens at Cardiff City over the next five years and what the comments will be like then. I will enjoy watching from afar."

    Doesn't sound to me that he will be wishing us well once he's gone.
    I wondered if anyone would pick up on that - seems to me that one of our manager's main motivations in his management career has been a wish to stick it to former employer, in fact it might be his prime motivation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    I wondered if anyone would pick up on that - seems to me that one of our manager's main motivations in his management career has been a wish to stick it to former employer, in fact it might be his prime motivation.
    Really poor response from NW , he also did the same to Nathan Blake when he disagreed with his comments.

    So in reality he is suggesting we will be much worse off when he has left, i actually tend to agree with him as the signings he has made this last window will not leave the next manager in good stead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BINGE THINKING View Post
    "I will be interested what happens at Cardiff City over the next five years and what the comments will be like then. I will enjoy watching from afar."

    Doesn't sound to me that he will be wishing us well once he's gone.
    **** him. Get rid of him now.

    And 5 years is nothing. Tan is still burping fish sauce over Malkys signing of Cornelius 6 years on.

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    He's a bit of a shithouse on times, isn't he?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BINGE THINKING View Post
    "I will be interested what happens at Cardiff City over the next five years and what the comments will be like then. I will enjoy watching from afar."

    Doesn't sound to me that he will be wishing us well once he's gone.
    Yeah. Quite a cynical comment.

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    So, he got is tactics wrong and that is the extent of his culpability. No mention of the ragbag of players bought by him, probably at his behest and not the Transfer Committee and at top dollar prices, that are now proving to be inadequate or have become non-persons only getting the occasional game for the U23s

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    I liken Neil Warnock to a highly skilled aircraft engineer. The problem is he is highly skilled with Spitfires and Hurricanes while nearly all the other engineers have moved on to far more modern effective aircraft.
    When pressed to modernise his views by bringing in more modern parts ( players) he doesn’t use them to create a more modern aircraft ( team) but just tries fitting them into the old aircraft he is familiar with where of course they simply don’t fit and most of them have to be expensively discarded.
    Instead of then just switching to newer ideas he simply stubbornly sticks to his old fashioned ideas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since62 View Post
    I liken Neil Warnock to a highly skilled aircraft engineer. The problem is he is highly skilled with Spitfires and Hurricanes while nearly all the other engineers have moved on to far more modern effective aircraft.
    When pressed to modernise his views by bringing in more modern parts ( players) he doesn’t use them to create a more modern aircraft ( team) but just tries fitting them into the old aircraft he is familiar with where of course they simply don’t fit and most of them have to be expensively discarded.
    Instead of then just switching to newer ideas he simply stubbornly sticks to his old fashioned ideas
    I don't think it's that Warnock doesn't grasp 'modern' football techniques and tactics - I'm pretty sure he's as knowledgeable as your Luigis and Francescos - it's just he believes, with a fair bit of historical justification, that the more often you get the ball into the opponent's penalty area the more likely you are to score. Trouble is this season we have players who aren't capable of doing that, or probably aren't happy doing that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    I don't think it's that Warnock doesn't grasp 'modern' football techniques and tactics - I'm pretty sure he's as knowledgeable as your Luigis and Francescos - it's just he believes, with a fair bit of historical justification, that the more often you get the ball into the opponent's penalty area the more likely you are to score. Trouble is this season we have players who aren't capable of doing that, or probably aren't happy doing that..

    Whilst I disagree with your views on NW (and those others in the management team under him) grasping modern techniques , if you are correct about why he uses the approach you suggest then why did he spend a lot of money on players who were never going to fit into that system (Booby Reid, Lee Tomlin, Josh Murphy etc) and waste other money on players who he then doesn`t select (Cunningham, Madine, Vaulks etc) which was money he could have spent elsewhere to support his "plan"?

    In addition to the above , a lot of money has been wasted on what seem to be very questionable levels of transfer fees , salary levels, exceptional length of contracts etc. on players such as Bacuna and Flint. I can understand the relatively cheap signing of Joe Day which now seems unnecessary as at the time everyone (including the player himself) thought Neil Etheridge was off to Aston Villa.

    Also, why did he spend yet more money (and why the hell did the club`s directors let him) on two professional contracts given to two sons of a disgraced former football agent when those players were very clearly nowhere near Championship standard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since62 View Post
    I liken Neil Warnock to a highly skilled aircraft engineer. The problem is he is highly skilled with Spitfires and Hurricanes while nearly all the other engineers have moved on to far more modern effective aircraft.
    When pressed to modernise his views by bringing in more modern parts ( players) he doesn’t use them to create a more modern aircraft ( team) but just tries fitting them into the old aircraft he is familiar with where of course they simply don’t fit and most of them have to be expensively discarded.
    Instead of then just switching to newer ideas he simply stubbornly sticks to his old fashioned ideas
    You might be wright brother, but aren't spitfires a bit too modern for him?

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    Why would Danny be disappointed Neil is popular?

    It’s these type of comments that rub me up the wrong way.

    Listen you old ****, you’ve been a cracking manager over the years, but you definitely HAVE escaped harsh criticism off the press in these parts because you’re seen as some sort of messiah for that miracle promotion.

    Stop rambling and sort it ****ing out.

    You know the defenders are making mistakes, don’t change the defence, you e used an unskilled no10 at times we’ve needed a Tomlin, etc etc. All things you SHOULD know, given your experience.

    So stop whining about the same old same old and do what you’re paid to do and ****ing fix it, instead of crawling back to the fans to grovel for our support.

    Come back when you’ve shown us you deserve it, with a performance on the pitch. **** your empty words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dembethewarrior View Post
    Listen you old ****, you’ve been a cracking manager over the years, but you definitely HAVE escaped harsh criticism off the press in these parts because you’re seen as some sort of messiah for that miracle promotion.
    And reunifying the club. That's his biggest achievement I think. I'm not sure time would have been a healer for that, Warnock must take some credit for getting everyone aligned. And my second favourite promotion season ever. That was good too.

    But yeah, not sure the team he leaves behind will be any better than the one he inherited despite the premier league season and the money.

    for his own legacy he really should have walked after man utd. The relegation was no disgrace and he was still thought of as having moved the club on at that point. It would have been something of a poisoned chalice for the next guy possibly, but I've no idea who is benefitting from him being given another season. It's such a pity for everyone that it's worked out this way.

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    "watching from afar" Does he mean heaven ?

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    "Danny is probably disappointed I am popular, they are going to make comments though aren't they? That is what they get paid for," Warnock responded.

    He's actually lost it

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    Warnock signed Gabbidon for QPR didn’t he?

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    He’s lost me now. He can **** off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dembethewarrior View Post
    He’s lost me now. He can **** off.
    Yeah, **** off now **** and ******* go **** ****.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimistic Nick View Post
    And reunifying the club. That's his biggest achievement I think. I'm not sure time would have been a healer for that, Warnock must take some credit for getting everyone aligned. And my second favourite promotion season ever. That was good too.

    But yeah, not sure the team he leaves behind will be any better than the one he inherited despite the premier league season and the money.

    for his own legacy he really should have walked after man utd. The relegation was no disgrace and he was still thought of as having moved the club on at that point. It would have been something of a poisoned chalice for the next guy possibly, but I've no idea who is benefitting from him being given another season. It's such a pity for everyone that it's worked out this way.
    I’ve said before he’s done well for bringing everyone back together.

    Shame really, as by staying on he’s undoing all his own good work.

    People are now pissed off with the manager, they’ve been passed off with results, and also players too (don’t agree with abuse to mozzas missus but it’s happened and I don’t see any comeback for him from that) so there are big HUGE cracks appearing now, time to earn his money and heal them or walk IMO.

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    "I think it's that when you've got a system that isn't working and in midfield you are going up against an extra man, even when we got the ball we couldn't pass it,"

    No sh!t

    That's every game so far this season not just against the Jacks. Who's sacrificing the middle by insisting on playing two wingers every game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Des Parrot View Post
    "I think it's that when you've got a system that isn't working and in midfield you are going up against an extra man, even when we got the ball we couldn't pass it,"

    No sh!t

    That's every game so far this season not just against the Jacks. Who's sacrificing the middle by insisting on playing two wingers every game?
    .and two wingers who hug the touchline like Billy Meredith and Stanley Matthews, who never come infield more than a yard or two. Having Ralls and Dobbin[sorry, Pack], to stop everything in the middle and also create everything just ain't going to work..

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