Is there anyone on here that will still defend Warnock?

[NYCBlue]

I'm all ears.

[Chris Pontprennau Blues]

I'm all ears.

Yes me

[NYCBlue]

Yes me

Come on then. What have you got?

[Tuerto]

Come on then. What have you got?

The biggest disappointment for me isn't the fact that we're struggling and playing shite football, it's the fact that the club and manager hasn't used the experience and money of the premier league as a way of bringing in players with the potential to improve and develop into players that will show that they have ability. There has been zero planning, it seems Warnock has done what he wants.

[Cleve van Leef]

The biggest disappointment for me isn't the fact that we're struggling and playing shite football, it's the fact that the club and manager hasn't used the experience and money of the premier league as a way of bringing in players with the potential to improve and develop into players that will show that they have ability. There has been zero planning, it seems Warnock has done what he wants.

Agree totally.

[the other bob wilson]

What's this "unprecedented success" we've had under Neil Warnock then? Granted, what he did two seasons ago was very impressive, but he's been living off that for eighteen months now - he has not done anything that is without precedent at Cardiff City except, perhaps, buy more expensive duds than any other Cardiff manager.

[beakerboyblue]

Agree totally.

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[the other bob wilson]

The biggest disappointment for me isn't the fact that we're struggling and playing shite football, it's the fact that the club and manager hasn't used the experience and money of the premier league as a way of bringing in players with the potential to improve and develop into players that will show that they have ability. There has been zero planning, it seems Warnock has done what he wants.

[Allez Allez Allez]

The biggest disappointment for me isn't the fact that we're struggling and playing shite football, it's the fact that the club and manager hasn't used the experience and money of the premier league as a way of bringing in players with the potential to improve and develop into players that will show that they have ability. There has been zero planning, it seems Warnock has done what he wants.

Fact is the club had no football nous in the boardroom. They went from cost cutting Slade to Trollope and crowds dwindling. Fans not happy, fans want Tan gone. Fans want Warnock. Fans get Warnock. Warnock knows there is no football nous at the club. Warnock tells Tan what is needed. Tan, after years of getting fingers burnt listens. Problem is, Warnock is a football manager from the dark ages, with 2/3 years left until he retires.

Club gets promoted. Fans think Warnock doing a great job. He can do no wrong. Fans defend style of football, some bring up stats showing that they don't play "hoofball". Club promoted. Fans vindicated. Tan vindicated.

Club tell fans PL will be a bonus season. Fans swallow it. Who cares that we conceded 5 again, we shouldn't even be here. Warnock escapes any form of scrutiny from fans and owners. Its a binus season. Take the money, run. Warnock building a team for next season, when we'll be going for promotion number 2. It'll be easy.

Championship has got wiser. Teams play football, good football. Fans don't want that, Warnock's style will sort them all out. Who wants all that boring passing when you can get the ball to the striker in one big punt? It worked last time. It's not working this time. Fans, so fickle, so quick to say they never liked Warnock's style. It isn't so good when you are not winning so often. Fans now want a footballing ethos and culture at the club.

Warnock has always avoided scrutiny. He has, if you listen to him, never actually made a mistake at all. Every loss is because of a refereeing mistake. Hard done by Warnock. His teams are hard done by too. That's where they dig in, we'll show them. And it works, at every club he has been at, it works. Until it stops working. Players suddenly start getting it in the neck from Warnock in private because, actually, it's not really the referee or the football authorities to blame. It's them. The players, The ones he spent lots of other people's money on. The ones he didn't really research that well. Then, when people start to question, hang on, is it Warnock's fault after all? He defends hisself, then sods off. Reputation always in tact. He's a survivor is Colin. His clubs, less so.

[Tuerto]

Fact is the club had no football nous in the boardroom. They went from cost cutting Slade to Trollope and crowds dwindling. Fans not happy, fans want Tan gone. Fans want Warnock. Fans get Warnock. Warnock knows there is no football nous at the club. Warnock tells Tan what is needed. Tan, after years of getting fingers burnt listens. Problem is, Warnock is a football manager from the dark ages, with 2/3 years left until he retires.

Club gets promoted. Fans think Warnock doing a great job. He can do no wrong. Fans defend style of football, some bring up stats showing that they don't play "hoofball". Club promoted. Fans vindicated. Tan vindicated.

Club tell fans PL will be a bonus season. Fans swallow it. Who cares that we conceded 5 again, we shouldn't even be here. Warnock escapes any form of scrutiny from fans and owners. Its a binus season. Take the money, run. Warnock building a team for next season, when we'll be going for promotion number 2. It'll be easy.

Championship has got wiser. Teams play football, good football. Fans don't want that, Warnock's style will sort them all out. Who wants all that boring passing when you can get the ball to the striker in one big punt? It worked last time. It's not working this time. Fans, so fickle, so quick to say they never liked Warnock's style. It isn't so good when you are not winning so often. Fans now want a footballing ethos and culture at the club.

Warnock has always avoided scrutiny. He has, if you listen to him, never actually made a mistake at all. Every loss is because of a refereeing mistake. Hard done by Warnock. His teams are hard done by too. That's where they dig in, we'll show them. And it works, at every club he has been at, it works. Until it stops working. Players suddenly start getting it in the neck from Warnock in private because, actually, it's not really the referee or the football authorities to blame. It's them. The players, The ones he spent lots of other people's money on. The ones he didn't really research that well. Then, when people start to question, hang on, is it Warnock's fault after all? He defends hisself, then sods off. Reputation always in tact. He's a survivor is Colin. His clubs, less so.

Excellent summary.

[jeepster]

Fact is the club had no football nous in the boardroom. They went from cost cutting Slade to Trollope and crowds dwindling. Fans not happy, fans want Tan gone. Fans want Warnock. Fans get Warnock. Warnock knows there is no football nous at the club. Warnock tells Tan what is needed. Tan, after years of getting fingers burnt listens. Problem is, Warnock is a football manager from the dark ages, with 2/3 years left until he retires.

Club gets promoted. Fans think Warnock doing a great job. He can do no wrong. Fans defend style of football, some bring up stats showing that they don't play "hoofball". Club promoted. Fans vindicated. Tan vindicated.

Club tell fans PL will be a bonus season. Fans swallow it. Who cares that we conceded 5 again, we shouldn't even be here. Warnock escapes any form of scrutiny from fans and owners. Its a binus season. Take the money, run. Warnock building a team for next season, when we'll be going for promotion number 2. It'll be easy.

Championship has got wiser. Teams play football, good football. Fans don't want that, Warnock's style will sort them all out. Who wants all that boring passing when you can get the ball to the striker in one big punt? It worked last time. It's not working this time. Fans, so fickle, so quick to say they never liked Warnock's style. It isn't so good when you are not winning so often. Fans now want a footballing ethos and culture at the club.

Warnock has always avoided scrutiny. He has, if you listen to him, never actually made a mistake at all. Every loss is because of a refereeing mistake. Hard done by Warnock. His teams are hard done by too. That's where they dig in, we'll show them. And it works, at every club he has been at, it works. Until it stops working. Players suddenly start getting it in the neck from Warnock in private because, actually, it's not really the referee or the football authorities to blame. It's them. The players, The ones he spent lots of other people's money on. The ones he didn't really research that well. Then, when people start to question, hang on, is it Warnock's fault after all? He defends hisself, then sods off. Reputation always in tact. He's a survivor is Colin. His clubs, less so.

**** me what a post

[Chris Pontprennau Blues]

Come on then. What have you got?

I don't discuss my views with plastics

[NYCBlue]

I don't discuss my views with plastics

Ha ha ha! So you won't defend him. Classic.

[Chris Pontprennau Blues]

Ha ha ha! So you won't defend him. Classic.

I had a similar discussion maybe dispute with BLUE AWAY today, we should give Neil a chance to get us in a playoff position by the end of January - if we are floundering in mid table get a new manager in - in my view Chris Hughton

[Der Kaiser]

I'd actually like to know if Warnock would still defend Warnock! It's over. This squad are nearly all of his signings which amount to tens of millions wasted and they are nearly all crap or just simply not up to standard in a pretty average championship this season. How on earth he has managed to sign 4 strikers (correct me if i'm wrong) during his time here, and they are all absolute piss is a genuine feat to be admired. Our defence is terrible and undermanned... who ****ing ok'd him letting Cunningham go and not signing a replacement until two days ago! I have 0 doubt our already underused academy is now completely redundant and may as well be closed down due to years of neglect.


He gave us one unbelievable season, and a respectable premier league campaign. He's going to undo absolutely everything in a matter of months.

[Tuerto]

I'm all ears.

There will be, although i'd say that they'd be the type of fan that quotes Kenny Hibbitt, Alan Durban and losing to Halifax away on a freezing Tuesday night. He's done, been found out, run out of ideas, or should that be 'idea' The best thing he could do for himself and the club is to walk away, put his hands up and say that he's taken it as far as he can, and that he isn't going to make any progress for the 5 months that he has left with the club. He wont though.

[WJ99mobile]

Problem is to me it’s not hard to fix Warnockball. It’s a straight forward system that just relies on players doing exactly what theyre told with 100% effort from all and few mistakes.

It’s a 90% man management 10% tactics system but it seems all his players have slipped out of form at the same time.

I don’t think he’ll get them back playing and to me, it’s the end of him as a manager.

[RonnieBird]

I'd defend him because he's arguably been the best manager we've ever had. I'm very grateful for what he's done for this club.
Sadly the whole thing seems to have run its course now and it doesn't look to me as if the spark can be recaptured at this stage.
It's a pity that the unprecedented success couldn't have been developed or at least preserved, and now we've got to start again .
That'll take a long time I'm afraid

[Tuerto]

I'd defend him because he's arguably been the best manager we've ever had. I'm very grateful for what he's done for this club.
Sadly the whole thing seems to have run its course now and it doesn't look to me as if the spark can be recaptured at this stage.
It's a pity that the unprecedented success couldn't have been developed or at least preserved, and now we've got to start again .
That'll take a long time I'm afraid

Warnock doesn't do development.

[Der Kaiser]

I'd defend him because he's arguably been the best manager we've ever had. I'm very grateful for what he's done for this club.
Sadly the whole thing seems to have run its course now and it doesn't look to me as if the spark can be recaptured at this stage.
It's a pity that the unprecedented success couldn't have been developed or at least preserved, and now we've got to start again .
That'll take a long time I'm afraid

Granted you have made an admission that it's over for him, other fans who stick by this sort of mantra are absolute fools. Leicester sacked their 'best manager ever', and now look at them, they're even better. No room for sentimentality in sport.

[Steve the Tea]

I'd defend him because he's arguably been the best manager we've ever had. I'm very grateful for what he's done for this club.
Sadly the whole thing seems to have run its course now and it doesn't look to me as if the spark can be recaptured at this stage.
It's a pity that the unprecedented success couldn't have been developed or at least preserved, and now we've got to start again .
That'll take a long time I'm afraid

If he is, 'the best manager we've ever had,' then we wouldn't be in virtually the same condition as when he took over, playing poor football and still going backwards.

StT.
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[beakerboyblue]

Never been a support of Warnock, he should of been sent packing last Christmas.
We might of had a chance with a different manager in staying in the premier, but we didn’t and he should of been sacked at the end of last season.
He has to go now and a new manager ASAP to sort out the players and they have time to look at where to strengthen in January transfer window

[City123]

He should have gone after the win at Old Trafford

Ah well, at least we let him piss even more money up the wall and undo pretty much all the hard work he did, leaving us sliding back to where we were when he took over

[Dorcus]

Fact is the club had no football nous in the boardroom. They went from cost cutting Slade to Trollope and crowds dwindling. Fans not happy, fans want Tan gone. Fans want Warnock. Fans get Warnock. Warnock knows there is no football nous at the club. Warnock tells Tan what is needed. Tan, after years of getting fingers burnt listens. Problem is, Warnock is a football manager from the dark ages, with 2/3 years left until he retires.

Club gets promoted. Fans think Warnock doing a great job. He can do no wrong. Fans defend style of football, some bring up stats showing that they don't play "hoofball". Club promoted. Fans vindicated. Tan vindicated.

Club tell fans PL will be a bonus season. Fans swallow it. Who cares that we conceded 5 again, we shouldn't even be here. Warnock escapes any form of scrutiny from fans and owners. Its a binus season. Take the money, run. Warnock building a team for next season, when we'll be going for promotion number 2. It'll be easy.

Championship has got wiser. Teams play football, good football. Fans don't want that, Warnock's style will sort them all out. Who wants all that boring passing when you can get the ball to the striker in one big punt? It worked last time. It's not working this time. Fans, so fickle, so quick to say they never liked Warnock's style. It isn't so good when you are not winning so often. Fans now want a footballing ethos and culture at the club.

Warnock has always avoided scrutiny. He has, if you listen to him, never actually made a mistake at all. Every loss is because of a refereeing mistake. Hard done by Warnock. His teams are hard done by too. That's where they dig in, we'll show them. And it works, at every club he has been at, it works. Until it stops working. Players suddenly start getting it in the neck from Warnock in private because, actually, it's not really the referee or the football authorities to blame. It's them. The players, The ones he spent lots of other people's money on. The ones he didn't really research that well. Then, when people start to question, hang on, is it Warnock's fault after all? He defends hisself, then sods off. Reputation always in tact. He's a survivor is Colin. His clubs, less so.

And on top of that zero ambition at the top. Their view ..."let's continue to be plucky little Cardiff also rans and maybe strike lucky once in a blue moon without spending"

[Captain_Sensible]

I'm happy for Warnock to stay until the end of the season. I don't trust the board to replace him with anyone better and think it's too risky at this point - we won't go down with Warnock.

Plenty of mb users have got suggestions but there's none that really set the pulse racing - everyone is a gamble. Not long ago everyone was marvelling at what a setup Norwich have - think they've just lost seven on the bounce.