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Thread: Warnock leaves us in as bad a place as when he joined

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    Warnock leaves us in as bad a place as when he joined

    No doubt in my mind. Yes, he got the club some credit back after all the nonsense that went before. But, he's assembled a very expensive squad on very expensive wages with little or no resale value.

    The football was dull to watch. Nearly always. Never took responsibility, always blamed the ref.

    Promotion was a surprise. Relegation was sought after. Glad to see the back of him.

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    Re: Warnock leaves us in as bad a place as when he joined

    Quote Originally Posted by Allez Allez Allez View Post
    No doubt in my mind. Yes, he got the club some credit back after all the nonsense that went before. But, he's assembled a very expensive squad on very expensive wages with little or no resale value.

    The football was dull to watch. Nearly always. Never took responsibility, always blamed the ref.

    Promotion was a surprise. Relegation was sought after. Glad to see the back of him.
    Can I see the breakdown of the squad's wages that you've got? I'd be interested to see how much we're spending

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    Re: Warnock leaves us in as bad a place as when he joined

    He galvanised the Club off the pitch.

    For that alone, we are in a better state.

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    Re: Warnock leaves us in as bad a place as when he joined

    we are easily in a much better position financial from his time here.

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    Re: Warnock leaves us in as bad a place as when he joined

    Quote Originally Posted by blueblade View Post
    He galvanised the Club off the pitch.

    For that alone, we are in a better state.
    This.

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    Re: Warnock leaves us in as bad a place as when he joined

    We were in a very bad place when he joined. Not there now.

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    Re: Warnock leaves us in as bad a place as when he joined

    Quote Originally Posted by Allez Allez Allez View Post
    No doubt in my mind. Yes, he got the club some credit back after all the nonsense that went before. But, he's assembled a very expensive squad on very expensive wages with little or no resale value.

    The football was dull to watch. Nearly always. Never took responsibility, always blamed the ref.

    Promotion was a surprise. Relegation was sought after. Glad to see the back of him.
    Utter bollocks. After that loss at Burton we were staring straight at League 1 with a fractured fanbase, no money and the genuine prospect of relegation. Had we gone down that season, feck knows where we'd be now

    Warnock galvanised the club, got the fans back on side, gave us one of the best seasons Cardiff have ever produced and took us incredibly close to staying in the Premier League, giving us some great memories along the way

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    Re: Warnock leaves us in as bad a place as when he joined

    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    Utter bollocks. After that loss at Burton we were staring straight at League 1 with a fractured fanbase, no money and the genuine prospect of relegation. Had we gone down that season, feck knows where we'd be now

    Warnock galvanised the club, got the fans back on side, gave us one of the best seasons Cardiff have ever produced and took us incredibly close to staying in the Premier League, giving us some great memories along the way
    100%

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    Re: Warnock leaves us in as bad a place as when he joined

    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    Utter bollocks. After that loss at Burton we were staring straight at League 1 with a fractured fanbase, no money and the genuine prospect of relegation. Had we gone down that season, feck knows where we'd be now

    Warnock galvanised the club, got the fans back on side, gave us one of the best seasons Cardiff have ever produced and took us incredibly close to staying in the Premier League, giving us some great memories along the way
    Dont be so dramatic. We were not staring League One in the face at all. There was barely a quarter of the season gone.

    He has built bridges between the club and the fans but on the pitch I agree with the OP. A big, ageing squad, with little quality, and little resale value playing anti-football. Its all very reminiscent of the Slade era.

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    Re: Warnock leaves us in as bad a place as when he joined

    Improved the relationship with the fans and has helped put the rebrand behind us. Has left us with some parachute payments and a fuller stadium than when he joined.

    But the squad he left us with isn't that great. Would be interesting to see what a new manager could get out of Murphy and Reid. I'm a fan of Marlon pack too. First thing that we need though is 2 full backs, 2 centre mids and at least 1 centre half.

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    Re: Warnock leaves us in as bad a place as when he joined

    Off the pitch he has transformed the place, and for that I'm grateful

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    Re: Warnock leaves us in as bad a place as when he joined

    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    Improved the relationship with the fans and has helped put the rebrand behind us. Has left us with some parachute payments and a fuller stadium than when he joined.

    But the squad he left us with isn't that great. Would be interesting to see what a new manager could get out of Murphy and Reid. I'm a fan of Marlon pack too. First thing that we need though is 2 full backs, 2 centre mids and at least 1 centre half.
    Yeah, its not like we havent got enough centre halfs. Weve only got 5 senior CH's on the books plus Ciaron Brown coming through.

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    Re: Warnock leaves us in as bad a place as when he joined

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Yeah, its not like we havent got enough centre halfs. Weve only got 5 senior CH's on the books plus Ciaron Brown coming through.
    How many good ones though.

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    Re: Warnock leaves us in as bad a place as when he joined

    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    How many good ones though.
    Oh I agree, totally, but getting rid of the duds isnt going to be easy. I doubt the new manager will be given carte blanche just to add to the squad without shipping players out and weve given very average or injury prone players multi year contracts.

    Why the hell was Matt Conolly given a contract extension? Jazz Richards too?. Why sign Curtis Nelson and then sign Aden Flint?

    Weve got 5 centre halfs, 4 senior goalkeepers, and only 1 left back. The squad is so unbalanced its ridiculous and theres only one man to blame for that.

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    Re: Warnock leaves us in as bad a place as when he joined

    And the 1 left back isn't very good either.

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    Re: Warnock leaves us in as bad a place as when he joined

    We weren’t staring relegation in the face.

    He has brought the fans and the club closer together.

    The squad is ageing and don’t have cover for all positions even though we’ve spent enough to have 2 in every position.

    I don’t think we’re in that great of a position tbh but I thank him for bringing us together as a club and for the promotion.

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    Re: Warnock leaves us in as bad a place as when he joined

    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue;5020d062
    And the 1 left back isn't very good either.
    Try 'hopeless'

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    Re: Warnock leaves us in as bad a place as when he joined

    I wouldn't mind seeing a break down of all his players buys and sales: he has spent a lot but he has also sold players at good prices, the money zohore ect, the money spent on reid is also being recuperated in the fulham deal

    and made good signings for cheap eg ethereidge, mendez, patterson

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    Re: Warnock leaves us in as bad a place as when he joined

    Quote Originally Posted by chris lee View Post
    I wouldn't mind seeing a break down of all his players buys and sales: he has spent a lot but he has also sold players at good prices, the money zohore ect, the money spent on reid is also being recuperated in the fulham deal

    and made good signings for cheap eg ethereidge, mendez, patterson
    You've mentioned Zohore, I'd be interested to see a list of the other players we sold at good prices under Neil Warnock's management.

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    Re: Warnock leaves us in as bad a place as when he joined

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    You've mentioned Zohore, I'd be interested to see a list of the other players we sold at good prices under Neil Warnock's management.
    Quite. Selling Bobby Decordova-Reid for what we paid is hardly good business, now that he has Premier League experience and I doubt there’ll be a queue of clubs lining up for Flint in January!

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    Re: Warnock leaves us in as bad a place as when he joined

    Quote Originally Posted by Allez Allez Allez View Post
    No doubt in my mind. Yes, he got the club some credit back after all the nonsense that went before. But, he's assembled a very expensive squad on very expensive wages with little or no resale value.

    The football was dull to watch. Nearly always. Never took responsibility, always blamed the ref.

    Promotion was a surprise. Relegation was sought after. Glad to see the back of him.
    More utter drivel.

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    Re: Warnock leaves us in as bad a place as when he joined

    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    More utter drivel.
    Oh log into another account you boring twat.

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    Re: Warnock leaves us in as bad a place as when he joined

    Quote Originally Posted by Allez Allez Allez View Post
    No doubt in my mind. Yes, he got the club some credit back after all the nonsense that went before. But, he's assembled a very expensive squad on very expensive wages with little or no resale value.

    The football was dull to watch. Nearly always. Never took responsibility, always blamed the ref.

    Promotion was a surprise. Relegation was sought after. Glad to see the back of him.
    I struggle with that one , you need to evaluate and match the players we had then , to now .

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    Re: Warnock leaves us in as bad a place as when he joined

    Quote Originally Posted by dembethewarrior View Post
    Oh log into another account you boring twat.
    Lee Bowyer language and attitude already in play

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    Re: Warnock leaves us in as bad a place as when he joined

    let's be honest warnocks transfer dealings where fecking rubbish. We got the odd loan that was ok but the rest weren't "for the future"

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    Re: Warnock leaves us in as bad a place as when he joined

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Lee Bowyer language and attitude already in play
    Sure he can defend himself.

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    Re: Warnock leaves us in as bad a place as when he joined

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Dont be so dramatic. We were not staring League One in the face at all. There was barely a quarter of the season gone.

    He has built bridges between the club and the fans but on the pitch I agree with the OP. A big, ageing squad, with little quality, and little resale value playing anti-football. Its all very reminiscent of the Slade era.
    There is no comparison with the situation we were in under Trollope. We were certainly nosediving into league 1 with an insipid team.

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    Re: Warnock leaves us in as bad a place as when he joined

    Quote Originally Posted by dembethewarrior View Post
    Sure he can defend himself.
    You seem to be making a career out of having a go a people who disagree with other peoples posts. If that's not ‘boring twat’ behaviour, I don't know what is.

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    Re: Warnock leaves us in as bad a place as when he joined

    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    You seem to be making a career out of having a go a people who disagree with other peoples posts. If that's not ‘boring twat’ behaviour, I don't know what is.
    You mean I always pick up on YOUR bullshit? Yes yes I do.

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    Re: Warnock leaves us in as bad a place as when he joined

    Quote Originally Posted by Allez Allez Allez View Post
    No doubt in my mind. Yes, he got the club some credit back after all the nonsense that went before. But, he's assembled a very expensive squad on very expensive wages with little or no resale value.

    The football was dull to watch. Nearly always. Never took responsibility, always blamed the ref.

    Promotion was a surprise. Relegation was sought after. Glad to see the back of him.
    After banking 200 million from Sky alone post promotion surely we must have made a lot of late, we didn’t spend much after all? Money back from Reid and I still believe a decent manager would get Murphy going again, he will be worth what we paid. Only madine and glatzel are wasted monies and they could still come good, you never know. I’d say we have quite a few players worth money too, Ralls, hoilett, Mendez Laing, Etheridge, nelson even. Sheff Utd doing ok with league 1 signings it would seem......

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