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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    I think some are worried about the freebies effecting everyone's pensions , as a lot of these nationalization plans will effect ordinary folks pensions as the pension funds are invested in these very companies , therefore to gratis effect nice a the start could hurt ordinary working folks pensions in the future , my guess (and it is a guess ) a lot of the supporters of the gratis labour plans are retired or near retired public sector workers who are insulated as their pension and earning are protected from this potential financial shortfall and effects of the brave new nationalization plan , this is a huge gamble to untie all of this and it will cost ,I was listen to old Unite Len praising this new venture ,well he would wouldn't , he it wont effect his 250k pa or any of those folk around the Labour manifesto gratis held meeting yesterday .

    And shock of shocks old Len was the first out of the media blocks its as if he was the leader , and he as an union leader attended that manifesto meeting ??
    No mention of the millions who do not have the luxury of an occupational pension I see. Many people I know only have the State Pension to look forward to but are heroic in their stoicism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelsonca61 View Post
    Talking about pensions LOM, are you in the lumper payout and retirement at 60 brigade? I've missed out on that one 😬 as has my Doris, but it's not a race to the bottom so best wishes to those in the club 👍 bitter me? I was yesterday morning walking my Doris to work, Facking tories 😬😬😬😬😬
    wish I was

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    Re: Free Broadband - latest insane policy from Labour

    A good opinion piece (in my opinion) about this from Ash Sarkar (normally demonised by The Guardian, but this time given space):

    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...m-founding-nhs

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    A good opinion piece (in my opinion) about this from Ash Sarkar (normally demonised by The Guardian, but this time given space):

    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...m-founding-nhs
    to be fair it is a well presented side , and the to point

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    wish I was
    Didn't think you was TBH. Usually easy to pick out.

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    Re: Free Broadband - latest insane policy from Labour

    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    A good opinion piece (in my opinion) about this from Ash Sarkar (normally demonised by The Guardian, but this time given space):

    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...m-founding-nhs

    Well the NHS has been a ****ing disaster so she's probably right.
    Maybe it'll become the new mammoth State project that can't be done or funded properly but which no ones got the courage to critisise

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    He 'stuffed their mouths with gold', i'm a massive fan of the NHS and those of us that can afford it should pay a lot more taxation to improve it and keep it going but nonetheless doctors and surgeons do still seem to be paid too much, we should all be in it together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trampie09 View Post
    He 'stuffed their mouths with gold', i'm a massive fan of the NHS and those of us that can afford it should pay a lot more taxation to improve it and keep it going but nonetheless doctors and surgeons do still seem to be paid too much, we should all be in it together.
    Excellent point Trampie!!!

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    Re: Free Broadband - latest insane policy from Labour

    Quote Originally Posted by trampie09 View Post
    He 'stuffed their mouths with gold', i'm a massive fan of the NHS and those of us that can afford it should pay a lot more taxation to improve it and keep it going but nonetheless doctors and surgeons do still seem to be paid too much, we should all be in it together.

    Glad you like it. I see they've been caught killing kids at the maternity dept in Telford over decades. Not the first such scandal is it ?
    Fact is that it's a big **** up and third world compared to US healthcare but we keep hearing how great it is from the BBC and politicians and somehow a lot of people fall for it

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    Re: Free Broadband - latest insane policy from Labour

    If anyone is interested in how and why the policy was adopted:


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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    If anyone is interested in how and why the policy was adopted:

    In fact it's not new. Here's a clip of a much younger McDonnel putting his policies to a labour panel screening potential candidates
    during Blair's government


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    Excellent point Trampie!!!
    yes i think we need a broader look at the NHS rather than use it a a political point scoring vehicle , for me we should impose :

    GP consultations fee's for those than can afford it .
    freeze GP's pay and to pay for more nurses and raise their pay and skills
    Broaden nurses ability to provide simple care currently carried out by GP's
    Not prescribe drugs that are at the point of purchase.
    Charge for prescriptions for those than can afford in in wales ,channel to social care
    Group GP's within A and E
    Charges taken at then point of entry at A and E for drunks and drug offenders .
    Link fire services units and personal with paramedics fro call outs .
    Charges raised for motorists proving careless driver that results in medical help
    1p on income tax and ring fenced purely for social care

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    If anyone is interested in how and why the policy was adopted:

    i dislike this man

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    I think John McDonnell is an interesting guy not many old Socialists left these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    i dislike this man

    Yes, I think you're right. Corbyn is just a nutter, but this guy is quite sinister.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trampie09 View Post
    I think John McDonnell is an interesting guy not many old Socialists left these days.

    You say that like its a bad thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    i dislike this man
    Isn't life odd? I love him and find him captivating.

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    So in the last 24 hours the Conservatives have tried to trick the hard of thinking (i.e. their intended base) into believing they are an independent fact checker and have now banned one of the few newspapers who are critical of them from the 'battle bus'.

    This doesn't feel quite right to me.

    Then you have Priti Patel on the news telling some flabbergasted interviewer that you can't blame the government for poverty, lets put aside whether we are talking about absolute poverty or relative poverty (as this always comes up) and just take a minute to digest that.

    Herein lies the problem with the Conservative party these days, if they were in favour of a small state and low taxes I could stomach that as filling a gap in political landscape. Their leader has made a career out of not taking responsibility for anything so it is no real surprise that they want to promise the earth to win elections but then take no responsibility for the outcomes their incompetence inflicts on the people who they are supposed to lead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    So in the last 24 hours the Conservatives have tried to trick the hard of thinking (i.e. their intended base) into believing they are an independent fact checker and have now banned one of the few newspapers who are critical of them from the 'battle bus'.

    This doesn't feel quite right to me.

    Then you have Priti Patel on the news telling some flabbergasted interviewer that you can't blame the government for poverty, lets put aside whether we are talking about absolute poverty or relative poverty (as this always comes up) and just take a minute to digest that.

    Herein lies the problem with the Conservative party these days, if they were in favour of a small state and low taxes I could stomach that as filling a gap in political landscape. Their leader has made a career out of not taking responsibility for anything so it is no real surprise that they want to promise the earth to win elections but then take no responsibility for the outcomes their incompetence inflicts on the people who they are supposed to lead.

    They're all self seeking twats Eric. The last man to enter parliament with a good idea and clear intentions was Guy Fawkes.

    Actually I think the whole system of democracy is in its last throws and we're getting closer to the tyranny phase of Plato's observations.

    That aside, the most intelligent thing we can do in the mean time is vote for whichever bunch of crooks we think will further their own interests in a way which is least harmful to the people and the country.

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