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    Re: 11 points off automatic promotion and 11 points from relegation places

    12 points off the automatic promotion places and 9 points off the relegation spots after 18 games.

    Delbert's point about Warnock's spending is spot on. According to Sky during the Charlton commentary, his net spend while manager of City was £49 million. That's incredible given 'quality' of the side.

    I'm with those who believe Harris was actually a sensible appointment. I think that will be emphasised during the January transfer window, when I reckon the club will be either under an embargo or will have little or no money to spend.

    The squad needs a major overhaul as Warnock has left a right mess behind him. However, that's highly unlikely to happen in the short term, so Harris was a relatively cheap and pragmatic option. I don't believe any new manager would have been able to get major improvement out of the current squad. It just doesn't have enough ability within it. Therefore, a manager who won't try to change things dramatically is likely to get better results than one who would.

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    Re: 11 points off automatic promotion and 11 points from relegation places

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    12 points off the automatic promotion places and 9 points off the relegation spots after 18 games.

    Delbert's point about Warnock's spending is spot on. According to Sky during the Charlton commentary, his net spend while manager of City was £49 million. That's incredible given 'quality' of the side.

    I'm with those who believe Harris was actually a sensible appointment. I think that will be emphasised during the January transfer window, when I reckon the club will be either under an embargo or will have little or no money to spend.

    The squad needs a major overhaul as Warnock has left a right mess behind him. However, that's highly unlikely to happen in the short term, so Harris was a relatively cheap and pragmatic option. I don't believe any new manager would have been able to get major improvement out of the current squad. It just doesn't have enough ability within it. Therefore, a manager who won't try to change things dramatically is likely to get better results than one who would.
    Putting it more succinctly then.

    Football wise, safe but boring as ****?

    Not Harris's fault as others have so rightly pointed out.

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    Re: 11 points off automatic promotion and 11 points from relegation places

    Quote Originally Posted by Jordi Culé View Post
    Putting it more succinctly then.

    Football wise, safe but boring as ****?

    Not Harris's fault as others have so rightly pointed out.
    Quite possibly.

    Warnock loaded the squad with players on lengthy contracts who are average at best by Championship standards, and he did so at a significant cost. It's likely to take any manager several transfer windows to turn that around, and if the club is going to be under an embargo it will be even more difficult.

    Bringing in someone who wanted the rip the whole thing up and start again ran the risk of turning what is a bang-average mid-table side into relegation candidates. I don't think they'll become that under Harris unless there are significant problems in the dressing room. He'll keep things ticking along for a while, but it won't be pretty.

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    Re: 11 points off automatic promotion and 11 points from relegation places

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Quite possibly.

    Warnock loaded the squad with players on lengthy contracts who are average at best by Championship standards, and he did so at a significant cost. It's likely to take any manager several transfer windows to turn that around, and if the club is going to be under an embargo it will be even more difficult.

    Bringing in someone who wanted the rip the whole thing up and start again ran the risk of turning what is a bang-average mid-table side into relegation candidates. I don't think they'll become that under Harris unless there are significant problems in the dressing room. He'll keep things ticking along for a while, but it won't be pretty.
    Safe hands but little ambition.

    Not exactly the recipe to get people through the gates but forced upon the club after indulging Warnocks narcissism and bullshit.

    I don't see City competing for promotion for a number of years and they'll turn into the sort of nondescript side and club like Birmingham.

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    Re: 11 points off automatic promotion and 11 points from relegation places

    Quote Originally Posted by Jordi Culé View Post
    Safe hands but little ambition.

    Not exactly the recipe to get people through the gates but forced upon the club after indulging Warnocks narcissism and bullshit.

    I don't see City competing for promotion for a number of years and they'll turn into the sort of nondescript side and club like Birmingham.


    Surprisingly I don't mind that so much if the football quality and style of football slowly changes.
    As has been said above, most of the current squad may not be capable of playing in that way so it will take a few transfer windows to improve the balance.

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    Re: 11 points off automatic promotion and 11 points from relegation places

    Quote Originally Posted by DubaiDai View Post
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    Surprisingly I don't mind that so much if the football quality and style of football slowly changes.
    As has been said above, most of the current squad may not be capable of playing in that way so it will take a few transfer windows to improve the balance.
    I think any progress made is going to be slow and some of it is probably going to hurt the eyes. If Neil Harris has ideas about changing the style of play and personnel it'll take him at least 3/4 transfer windows after January's as I can't see him being allowed to spend then. It'll be interesting to see what the board allow for funds in the summer.

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    Re: 11 points off automatic promotion and 11 points from relegation places

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Quite possibly.

    Warnock loaded the squad with players on lengthy contracts who are average at best by Championship standards, and he did so at a significant cost. It's likely to take any manager several transfer windows to turn that around, and if the club is going to be under an embargo it will be even more difficult.

    Bringing in someone who wanted the rip the whole thing up and start again ran the risk of turning what is a bang-average mid-table side into relegation candidates. I don't think they'll become that under Harris unless there are significant problems in the dressing room. He'll keep things ticking along for a while, but it won't be pretty.
    This squad is so drilled into the style it plays, any moderate deviation into a more progressive playing style would leave us massively exposed.

    Hopefully Harris has the skills in the locker to play the Warnock style but slowly change us into something more this century

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