The negativity on this board

[life on mars]

It was a dour game but as the OP points out there needs to be some positiveness.

I was there and thought we were orgainsed ,didnt concede, tried to play on the floor ,Tomlin looked good as did Pack , Madine made himself a useful target.

The trouble Harris has , he has too quickly develop and change another mans side , who as most point out wern' t terrible adapt to passing and moving quickly as a unit .

I saw a glimmer of hope Tuesday against a decent set of players,
and against Charlton ,he found a plan b ,and fired them up in the second half .

Ralls is a big miss and I think Whyte's energy is also a miss.

P.M.A

[dembethewarrior]

It was a dour game but as the OP points out there needs to be some positiveness.

I was there and thought we were orgainsed ,didnt concede, tried to play on the floor ,Tomlin looked good as did Pack , Madine made himself a useful target.

The trouble Harris has , he has too quickly develop and change another mans side , who as most point out wern' t terrible adapt to passing and moving quickly as a unit .

I saw a glimmer of hope Tuesday against a decent set of players,
and against Charlton ,he found a plan b ,and fired them up in the second half .

Ralls is a big miss and I think Whyte's energy is also a miss.

P.M.A

We have improved in some ways even if the overall performance didn’t show it.

You can see he’s changed things.

I don’t think we’ll ever be a WBA though, they looked clever last night in patches, men making forward runs from beyond the ball carrier while they passed it around looking for a forward option.. just makes them look more threatening.

(Although early on that game bored the tits off me)

[goats]

The positive is that we won, and kept a clean sheet, and scored a very good goal. Probably under Warnock we would have drawn that game, no way Stoke were going to win unless we scored an own goal. I see Harris has moved the centre backs around, with Flint now playing on the right and Nelson as left centre back and Flint seems more comfortable there, but have top say Nelson doesn't. Interesting that he is putting his faith in Madine, who did well enough, but Bogle was awful when he came on. And we do have injuries, with Whyte, Ralls, Vassell and Glatzel all out, Bamba clearly not yet fit (oh and Jazz Richards, remember him?), and Ward suspended. I think only Ralls will make a difference. And Morrison on the bench.

Strange to see that Harris seems to have ignored Bamba , plays Tomlin and seems to be ignoring Murphy too.

And I think we have had 15 different scorers this season, plus an own goal!

But we are now 4 points off a Play Off place, so this division must be not very good this season, but the top two are starting to pull away. But I have hope.

You would think he’d give Murphy a go? Surely he has something to offer?

[City123]

I agree with the OP. Stoke had won four out of their previous seven games so the match wasn’t going to be easy. We are now playing a very different system and formation, with players being allowed more licence to roam. Our defence is far more dynamic, the whole setup is less rigid. The defence was superb, I really can’t understand why Flint gets so much grief. His partnership with Nelson looks very promising.

We have no right to expect anything, we are not a big club in this division. If we were relegated it would merely be part of the ongoing cyclical nature of football. Leicester, Sheff Utd, Swansea and Bournemouth have all been in level 3 since we last played there and have subsequently flourished. I enjoyed last night, I enjoy most matches apart from the ones where we are beaten heavily at home, and that has only really occurred when we’ve been in the Premier League in recent years (apart from the West Ham, Reading, Boro glitches).

In my lifetime we’ve never had it so good as these last twenty years and I’ve thoroughly enjoyed it - apart from the rebrand.

Yes we are. 10 consecutive seasons here, with 7 finishes in the top half followed by a season in the Premier League, 3 more top half finishes before coming second on 91 points. 5th biggest stadium, 7th highest average attendance, great away following.

Its about time Cardiff fans realised that we aren't a 4th tier club anymore, everyone else has

[Cyclops]

Yes we are. 10 consecutive seasons here, with 7 finishes in the top half followed by a season in the Premier League, 3 more top half finishes before coming second on 91 points. 5th biggest stadium, 7th highest average attendance, great away following.
Its about time Cardiff fans realised that we aren't a 4th tier club anymore, everyone else has

I think that's a VERY valid and pertinent point.
I also believe that one of the reasons we've not performed better in the Premiership is that there IS this perception that City is not really a top team and that this is woven into the psyche of the club and permeates at every level.
This despite the crowds we are attracting this season and a great stadium.
I am old enough to remember and see City in the old Division One. Although I am not City born or bred, I can see the potential here, especially as the City grows in size. If only fans (and Tan) didn't have the 'we are not Premiership material really' mentality and started to demand that we should assert our right to be at the top table.

[Shute]

It is estimated that we will receive £42.6 million this season from parachute payments, £35+million next and £16m the year after. That makes us a big fish in this league, regardless of performances on the pitch.

[BlueToujours]

It is estimated that we will receive £42.6 million this season from parachute payments, £35+million next and £16m the year after. That makes us a big fish in this league, regardless of performances on the pitch.

I think that because we only spent one year in the PL we are not entitled to the third year Parachute Payment.

[Shute]

I think that because we only spent one year in the PL we are not entitled to the third year Parachute Payment.

You're right. I forgot about that. Still makes us money bags for the time being.

[Dorcus]

I'll be honest I guess my feelings were misplaced when I thought I'd log on here this morning to see a couple of positive threads about the team but all I can see is negativity?
We have a brand new manager, who lets face it has inherited a confidence ridden squad who have had a dire (and partly successful I will concede) brand of football drummed into them over 3 years... did anybody expect that over 2 games in charge, we would become Manchester City?


I was there last night so under no illusions of how poor the quality was from both sides last night, but missing our best midfielder, captain and a player I think will flourish in this system (Whyte) I think we are showing signs of at least something positive, and thought we looked a lot more solid at the back last night.


All I can see are posts that carry bitterness with them as people can't seem to get behind Harris as he wasn't the first choice appointment for everybody (I get that), but for Christ sake let's get behind everyone and give the manager a chance to at least change things in stead of waiting 2 games?


Not a post saying people aren't allowed to criticise as like I've conceded there wasn't a lot of quality last night, just that I think we should be getting behind the boys. Let's face it, the atmosphere was crap last night (even in the first 10 minutes, when I thought we were pretty decent!). Anyway, hope the boys can continue to pick up points and it will only build confidence in the squad

I think you mean the negativity of the club's board

[DubaiDai]

I think that because we only spent one year in the PL we are not entitled to the third year Parachute Payment.

If we are under a transfer embargo for a couple of seasons that will mount up

[The Hooded Claw]

You would think he’d give Murphy a go? Surely he has something to offer?

My thoughts exactly - particularly as everyone is meant to start with a clean slate.
In a team lacking much star appeal, Murphy is one of the few that entertains.
Granted, he may frustrate at times, but that’s the nature of wingers and he’s come from Norwich to being expected to play Warnockball.
And he’s the one my son wants on the back of his shirt!

[Splott-light...]

4 points in two games, a determined away point and a home win, albeit not a very convincing performance, as the saying goes - a point away and three at home is promotion form... I refuse to berate the manager until I see what he can do after 8-10 games