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    Re: So who are you voting for then ? Cards on the table

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Corbyn and his team are crap , the liberals are useless but even a fractured rainbow alliance is better than the lying tories from local representatives to the prime minister to the tory media , tosses the lot of them

    But it's too late now , it's going to be a tory majority and those idiots in bridgend who vote tory wont get any sympathy from me when they have to go for advice from the council for housing or the local citizens advice bureau for help with their benefits after they have lost their job , only to find it's been shut due to tory central government cuts , no sympathy at all
    I think it will be far closer than you seem to think, the polls of Brexit and Trump blow the polls out of the water, Labour are in still in it irrespective of how ineffective their campaign has been, and the rejection by many traditional labour voters who will reject Corbyn on Thursday, millions of undecided may swing it on the day.
    I do think it will be Boris but,
    Keep the Faith

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    Re: So who are you voting for then ? Cards on the table

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Confronted with the shambles of successive Tory governments over the last decade to enter a general election with them 10pc ahead in the polls either the general public or other political parties have lost their head. For me it's the latter. The Jeremy Corbyn Labour Party has been the most ineffectual and ineffective opposition to the chaos and embarrassment that has been perpetrated in our country's name over the last 4 years.

    In sadness quite a bit of me wants Johnson to own the bullshit and false get it done hope he is pedalling so he can be held to account for the snake oil salesman he is, Still I owe it to my kids to try and register a vote that tries to give them the best future. Strangely in my constituency that means voting for the Labour candidate. Most of my life that would have been done willingly rather than reluctantly. If one outcome of the election is that Corbyn falls on his sword then it won't be a total disaster for me.
    Sadly I think a lot of socialist think the same , what an awful dilemma.

    For me I think Corbyn created Boris it could have been avoided with better political skills.

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    Re: So who are you voting for then ? Cards on the table

    Quote Originally Posted by Nelsonca61 View Post
    I think it will be far closer than you seem to think, the polls of Brexit and Trump blow the polls out of the water, Labour are in still in it irrespective of how ineffective their campaign has been, and the rejection by many traditional labour voters who will reject Corbyn on Thursday, millions of undecided may swing it on the day.
    I do think it will be Boris but,
    Keep the Faith
    I see the labour shadow health secretary has been caught out bad mouthing corbyn to a tory mate who has broadcast their recorded phone conversation

    What an arsehole and the final nail in Corbyn's coffin

    What a shambles of a party we have become

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    Re: So who are you voting for then ? Cards on the table

    The much anticipated Yougov mega-poll was published earlier. https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...n-latest-polls

    To save clicking the link, the numbers equate to Tory 43% of the vote for 339 seats and an overall majority of 28; Labour on 34% and 231 seats.

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    Re: So who are you voting for then ? Cards on the table

    In answer to the OP, it's the Monster Raving Loony Party for me. I'll leave it to our readers to decide whether that's the Conservatives or Labour.

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    Re: So who are you voting for then ? Cards on the table

    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    The much anticipated Yougov mega-poll was published earlier. https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...n-latest-polls

    To save clicking the link, the numbers equate to Tory 43% of the vote for 339 seats and an overall majority of 28; Labour on 34% and 231 seats.
    People not clicking the link may want to know that the poll also says that another hung Parliament is within its margins of error, so anyone thinking of voting to keep the Torys from forming a majority Government should bear that in mind.

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    Re: So who are you voting for then ? Cards on the table

    Polls have been wrong longer than many people can recall. Prior to the 1992 General Election Labour were ahead, albeit slightly, in virtually every one published in the lead up then the BBC exit poll published on the stroke of 10pm forecast a Tory overall majority and were bang on with the numbers. Each GE since then it was also unerringly accurate.

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    Re: So who are you voting for then ? Cards on the table

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Corbyn and his team are crap , the liberals are useless but even a fractured rainbow alliance is better than the lying tories from local representatives to the prime minister to the tory media , tosses the lot of them

    But it's too late now , it's going to be a tory majority and those idiots in bridgend who vote tory wont get any sympathy from me when they have to go for advice from the council for housing or the local citizens advice bureau for help with their benefits after they have lost their job , only to find it's been shut due to tory central government cuts , no sympathy at all
    The tories have to realise that if they win they are on borrowed time.

    This is really a one off election. A lot will be voting to "Get Brexit Done" (sorry won't say it again!) or because they dislike Jeremy Corbyn more than Boris Johnson. And a lot will probably be long term Labour voters.

    However in 5 years time it will be different. Brexit will be done (hopefully!) and if Labour has any sense it will have a leader who is more appealing to the voters and a more realistic manifesto.

    If the tories do not improve in areas like Universal Credit, Social Care and the NHS they could well be annihilated next time around.

    If both main parties don't see sense I can see some new central grouping emerging to challenge both of them.

    With more regret than ever and in large part because I cannot stand Corbyn I am therefore voting Tory again this time round.

    But things have to change

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    Re: So who are you voting for then ? Cards on the table

    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood Blues View Post
    The tories have to realise that if they win they are on borrowed time.

    This is really a one off election. A lot will be voting to "Get Brexit Done" (sorry won't say it again!) or because they dislike Jeremy Corbyn more than Boris Johnson. And a lot will probably be long term Labour voters.

    However in 5 years time it will be different. Brexit will be done (hopefully!) and if Labour has any sense it will have a leader who is more appealing to the voters and a more realistic manifesto.

    If the tories do not improve in areas like Universal Credit, Social Care and the NHS they could well be annihilated next time around.

    If both main parties don't see sense I can see some new central grouping emerging to challenge both of them.

    With more regret than ever and in large part because I cannot stand Corbyn I am therefore voting Tory again this time round.

    But things have to change
    Boris won't deliver brexit

    What he will do is ravage the already ruined national health service and slash social services

    Universal credit is a nightmare but the very people who will be hit by it will be voting conservative because they have been fooled by brexit

    It beggars belief really but corbyn is a massive problem

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    Re: So who are you voting for then ? Cards on the table

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Boris won't deliver brexit

    What he will do is ravage the already ruined national health service and slash social services

    Universal credit is a nightmare but the very people who will be hit by it will be voting conservative because they have been fooled by brexit

    It beggars belief really but corbyn is a massive problem
    Is it Universal Credit itself that is the problem or the administration of it Sludge?

    By the way thank you for asking about my wife's PIP recently. Apologies for not responding sooner. She actually had her assessment now. She could only walk two steps (the assessor told her not to try anymore and sit down) so she should be OK on the mobility side. We should find out soon (it has been 5 weeks now).

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    Re: So who are you voting for then ? Cards on the table

    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    I won't be voting 'cause it matters not who wins in my opinion. Plus not doing so serves as a protest against the powers that be who won't institute a real secret ballot.

    I won't be betting either as the bookies have a ludicrously low maximum liability.

    Lib Dems are generally priced at 1-3 to take Sheffield Hallam. Be lucky to find an outfit who'll take a wager of £250 on that outcome.
    Now and again they do get it wrong.

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    Re: So who are you voting for then ? Cards on the table

    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Now and again they do get it wrong.
    Lets hope this chap is better than the last one or he is gone


    Olivia Blake Labour 19,709
    Laura Gordon Lib Dems 18,997
    Ian Walker Conservative 14,696

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    Re: So who are you voting for then ? Cards on the table

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Lets hope this chap is better than the last one or he is gone


    Olivia Blake Labour 19,709
    Laura Gordon Lib Dems 18,997
    Ian Walker Conservative 14,696
    I don't think Olivia Blake has ever been a chap. She is certainly a much better candidate than Jared O'Mara who came from nowhere (Olivia is young, bright, was deputy leader of Sheffield Council and a well known local activist), slipped through the rushed 2017 vetting processes and turned out to be poor at his job and loaded with some unpleasant misogynistic history. I think she will be good.

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    I voted as I've always voted for a centre-left party, 83 I voted Foot then Labour abandoned me by becoming a Tory party so i've voted Plaid for the last third of a century.

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