Neil Warnock on life since Cardiff City

[J R Hartley]

and 21 fail

Not strictly true. Its not the remit of all 24 teams in the division to get promoted or it will be deemed a failure. For the likes of Luton, Barnsley, Wigan, Millwall.etc its about staying in the division.

Of the current Championship 13 teams have been in the Premier League in the last decade, and of the current Premier League 13 teams have been promoted in the last decade. So excluding 7 clubs from the PL who have never played in the Championship thats 26 out of 37 teams in the top divisions that have managed to get promoted out of the Championship.

Not quite the difficult odds that people like to imply.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Not strictly true. Its not the remit of all 24 teams in the division to get promoted or it will be deemed a failure. For the likes of Luton, Barnsley, Wigan, Millwall.etc its about staying in the division.

Of the current Championship 13 teams have been in the Premier League in the last decade, and of the current Premier League 13 teams have been promoted in the last decade. So excluding 7 clubs from the PL who have never played in the Championship thats 26 out of 37 teams in the top divisions that have managed to get promoted out of the Championship.

Not quite the difficult odds that people like to imply.

And we're the only club to have been relegated from the Prem after one solitary season twice.

[J R Hartley]

And we're the only club to have been relegated from the Prem after one solitary season twice.

A number of clubs, some you could argue smaller than ourselves, have managed to establish themselves in the PL within the 6 years since we won our first promotion.

It was only 6/7 years ago we were battling with Leicester to get out of the Championship and look at how they have kicked on.

[StraightOuttaCanton]

A number of clubs, some you could argue smaller than ourselves, have managed to establish themselves in the PL within the 6 years since we won our first promotion.

It was only 6/7 years ago we were battling with Leicester to get out of the Championship and look at how they have kicked on.

Agree with that. The perfect scenario is about marrying investment with an excellent coach/manager.
Some do both brilliantly (Liverpool, Man City). Some do it through getting the best out of what they have (Bournemouth, Leicester)
Others spend millions and fail (relatively)at the highest level (Everton, West Ham).

Much as I’m appreciative of many things Warnock did the one thing I would have no confidence in him to do would be to spend 100’s of millions and compete at the highest level with a great product on the pitch. I believe he’d do worse than Silva and Pellegrini combined, no matter what he spent

[NYCBlue]

It wasn’t looking good from what I remember

We were near the bottom, but we weren't cut adrift or anything. I think saying he saved us from relegation is being over-generous. It's like saying "he almost kept us up". Has as much significance as "he almost didn't get us promoted".

[dembethewarrior]

We were near the bottom, but we weren't cut adrift or anything. I think saying he saved us from relegation is being over-generous. It's like saying "he almost kept us up". Has as much significance as "he almost didn't get us promoted".

There is a tendency to push things further one way, depending on the persons argument, to help aid their point. Were we **** in a relegation battle though

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

We were on our arse before he came , he got the team playing as a unit and strung an incredible string of results together to haul us out of danger

Far bigger clubs than us got relegated from the same position we were in when warnock arrived ........leeds , Sunderland, Sheffield United, Sheffield Wednesday .......all dropped to league one

If they had warnock in charge at the time he would have saved them too

What he achieved in his second season was even more remarkable

He's gone now but he wont be forgotten

Harris , who other fans also had a go at before a ball had been kicked is also doing a great job

Bluebirds !

[dembethewarrior]

We were on our arse before he came , he got the team playing as a unit and strung an incredible string of results together to haul us out of danger

Far bigger clubs than us got relegated from the same position we were in when warnock arrived ........leeds , Sunderland, Sheffield United, Sheffield Wednesday .......all dropped to league one

If they had warnock in charge at the time he would have saved them too

What he achieved in his second season was even more remarkable

He's gone now but he wont be forgotten

Harris , who other fans also had a go at before a ball had been kicked is also doing a great job

Bluebirds !

On our arse? We were struggling in the league, granted, but we’d bust cut the wage bill. Hardly on our arse.

You don’t know he would have saved them, some things are just out of our control and big clubs do fall historically and better managers than NW have failed.

He’s not the second coming of Jesus Christ or a relation to the mother of dragons. Calm your little pants down.